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    All-City Mr. Pink vs. SOMA ES vs. Gunnar Sport?

    Just looking for some feedback here. Having a lot of trouble deciding which one to get. Are there any opinions here?

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    The biggest factor to consider, IMHO, is the geometry and which of these frames would fit you better. Of course, price might also be an issue. The Gunnar Sport would be the most expensive of the three frames, but also the nicest frame in terms of availability of sizes, cleanness of welds, braze-ons and probably weight. I owned and commuted on a Sport for two years and it is a very practical bike for commuting, light touring and recreational riding. It has mounts for a rear rack and fenders front and rear, as a well as a pump peg. It has a longer chain stay than the Pink and slightly longer than ES. It is available in 1 cm size increments. The welds and quality of finish on Gunnars are topnotch, and they are available in a wide range of colors and decal choices.

    The Soma ES has a similar geometry to the other two frames, but is longer and lower. That is, in comparable sizes it has a longer top tube and shorter head tube. That feature is what kept me from buying an ES because I like frames with shorter top tubes and longer head tubes. Like the Gunnar, it has mounts for a rear rack and fenders front and rear with the appropriate front fork. It's a bargain compared to the Gunnar, at half the price.

    The Mr. Pink has the tallest head tube with top tube length similar to the Gunnar. I couldn't tell from their website whether it has mounts for a rear rack, but it has "hidden" fender mounts front and rear. Like the Soma, it costs about half the price of a Gunnar Sport. Quality of finish is excellent on All City bikes, but welds are not as clean as Gunnar, and it is probably heavier. It's biggest drawback is the wide range between sizes, which may or may not be a factor.

    I have examined all of these frames up close, but only ridden and owned the Gunnar Sport. One comment I would make about the Sport is that it's a surprisingly stiff frame considering the long wheelbase, probably due to the oversized tubing. Some riders, such as heavier ones, might like that. I prefer a more compliant ride, which is one reason why I sold the Sport. Even with 28mm tires, it had a stiffer ride than I prefer.

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    Awesome feedback! I agree that geometry and sizing is the most important factor here (besides pricing).

    A recent addition is the Milwaukee Bicycle Co CX (https://www.benscycle.com/p-3902-mil...e-builder.aspx). I can get a pretty decent price on one which includes a MKE Cross disc fork. Size is 59 cm and would be a bit of a gamble since I can't see if it fits correctly before I buy. I know this is a cross bike, but I'll mainly be using for commuting and....it is Waterford construction.

    What are your thoughts on this new addition (pic of the frame is below)?
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    The Milwaukee's are nice frames. I have not ridden one, but saw one up close on a recent ride and it looked well constructed and finished. Being made by Waterford, that would be expected. Sizing would be the biggest issue if buying used. How tall are you, and are you long-legged or long-wasted? I am 5'11" tall and the 59 Milwaukee would be a little too large for me (top tube), but the 56 would be a little short (head tube). That is the problem with frames that have wide gaps between sizes, you often have to compromise on fit. However, you can often correct for those sizing issues with your choices of stems, spacers, etc.

    A cross frame is ideal for commuting and very versatile because you can ride on or off road, and use a wide range of tire widths. I have two cross bikes that I use for commuting and trail riding, a Gunnar Crosshairs and Ritchey Breakaway Cross. The Ritchey fits me a better as the top tube is little too long on the Gunnar, but they both ride and handle great. If I had to get one bike for commuting, recreational riding and light touring, it would probably be a cyclecross.
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    I own a Mr. Pink and really enjoy it as a recreational road bike. But for a commuter bike, at least if you want to use a rack that's mounted to the frame, there are much better choices. It does have eyelets on the insides of the seatstays (these are the "hidden" fender mounts) but that's it. No rack eyelets whatsoever. Would make an excellent "fast commuter" bike if you prefer a backpack, and will even accept fenders and tires as large as 32mm wide. Beautiful paint, fork, and fairly light weight with the Columbus Zona tubeset, but for most, not the ideal commuter.

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    Bonus points for the Milwaukee and the Gunnar: made by Waterford in USA.

    That said, I'd go with the Mr. Pink for the same reasons tarwheel outlined -- shorter tt, taller ht. That's what I like in a bike. YMMV.
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    The All-City Space Horse is their model best suited for commuting and touring. Although heavier than the Mr. Pink, it has mounts for fenders and racks, room for larger tires. A friend of mine has a Space Horse and really likes it. It is a nice-looking bike.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tarwheel View Post
    The All-City Space Horse is their model best suited for commuting and touring. Although heavier than the Mr. Pink, it has mounts for fenders and racks, room for larger tires. A friend of mine has a Space Horse and really likes it. It is a nice-looking bike.
    +1, we've sold several Space Horse's in our shop, it's a premium commuter bike. Great looking finish, very practical and versatile, etc. We love the All-City brand.

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