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    Quote Originally Posted by zacster View Post
    I guess you didn't look at the links. They were all CL bikes.
    So the OP has heard of CL apparently. Maybe it never occurred to the OP to look at garage sales or bike coops. Hah!

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    Just how much has it seen?
    Shipping price depends on the weight and size of the package so let me know how much I would need to wire to your paypal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by speedndistance View Post
    Thanks in advance for looking!

    I am 20, 5'2", and I will be commuting 30 miles daily at my max (all flat terrain). Lots of my friends call me crazy, but I remind them that people have paddled around the world, run across the country, and landed on the moon... this is just another small step for me.

    Currently deciding between purchasing three bikes (Are touring bikes a subset of road bikes?), hopefully this is the appropriate forum for this...it seems to be scattered everywhere.

    Miyata - Miyata 52" road bike
    GT Series 4 - *** MINT GT GTR W 4 SERIES ROAD BIKE 44CM SMALL MAVIC WOMENS ***
    Cannondale - Cannondale road bike

    Besides, a basket, and water pack what other equipment/knowledge will I need for a daily 30 mile commute? Which bike is best suited for these needs?


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    Community,
    I wanted to thank all of you for your comments and expert advice. I successfully competed my 30 MILES RT without breaking a sweat or getting bullied into the gutter.

    My back is killer right now, since the cheap backpack I strapped on was flopping all over the place. So that is next on my list, it may also be my never being on a road bike before.

    Going on another 30 today. Happy riding!
    @jyl @TransitBiker @RaleighSport
    For those of you who don't appreciate cliff hangers: I purchased the GT GRX 44CM bike for 380 and the gentleman was nice enough to include a a helmet, bike rack, bike pouch, and extra tube. To make the seat more comfortable I took an inch of the bike post to have more space.

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    I guess this is a matter of personal preference, but I wouldn't want to skimp on rain gear. I put about $500 into a gorerex windbreaker jacket/pants, plus shoe covers and gloves. Everytime I have to ride through a cold rain, I'm glad I spent the money.

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    Quote Originally Posted by speedndistance View Post
    @jyl @TransitBiker @RaleighSport
    For those of you who don't appreciate cliff hangers: I purchased the GT GRX 44CM bike for 380 and the gentleman was nice enough to include a a helmet, bike rack, bike pouch, and extra tube. To make the seat more comfortable I took an inch of the bike post to have more space.
    Sweet!!! Keep us posted on developments!

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    I can't wait for the next pint of good chocolate milk after a long ride.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tjspiel View Post
    We all bring our biases to our replies (including me) so keep that in mind. Personally I'd tell you to ignore half of what's been posted for that reason but that wouldn't be that helpful.

    Like others have said, fit is very important. And since you intend to ride about 15 miles each way (if I understand correctly), I think a road bike makes a lot of sense. Further, while some people really like steel bikes, others are less religious about frame material. I wouldn't pass up an aluminum bike that you like and that fits, especially if it's got a steel or carbon fork. The important thing is that you feel comfortable on it, not what somebody else's personal preference is.

    Fenders and a Rack

    Fenders and a rack can be fitted to just about any bike, but some are a lot easier than others. How important a rack and fenders are depend on what you intend to carry and your local weather. Since you mentioned a basket, I'm assuming you would like to carry something. A rack isn't the only option though. Some people find carradice bags work well. They don't require a rack but can be kind of expensive.

    Fenders help a lot in the rain. You are better off if your bike can take standard fenders but depending on how often it rains in your area, and how often you intend to ride in the rain, they may not be as high a priority as some other things.

    Above all remember that this will be your bike that you will be using for your commute. Ultimately it's got to be something that you'll be happy with so don't get too hung up on all the recommendations here if they run counter to your instincts. Also remember that it's OK if this first bike turns out to have some shortcomings you did't think about. That's OK. Ride it awhile anyway if you can. Then you'll have a better idea of what exactly you want in your next bike.
    @tjspiel

    I want to carry a little as possible, but my aluminium macbook is so heavy by itself -_-

    On top of clothes and shoes + textbooks on occasion. I may be carrying 20 pounds on certain days (that will be my strict max). So I am very attracted to panniers for the moment. Especially since my back is so SORE from the backpack.

    I don't really get what utility fenders provide, they look decorative to me. Could you/anyone explain?



    Miami is very sunny, all year round. Winter means we get a "chill" of 57 degrees that turns to the 70s by late afternoon. We have blue sky rain showers, and on occasion when it really pours it's cats and dogs. Are fenders necessary?

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    Quote Originally Posted by speedndistance View Post
    I don't really get what utility fenders provide, they look decorative to me. Could you/anyone explain?

    Miami is very sunny, all year round. Winter means we get a "chill" of 57 degrees that turns to the 70s by late afternoon. We have blue sky rain showers, and on occasion when it really pours it's cats and dogs. Are fenders necessary?
    The front fender reduces (may not entirely prevent) dirty water from spraying all over you and the bike as the tire lifts up off the road and it reduces the amount of dirty water that is shed off the top of the front wheel in front of you and then gets blown back (either by headwind or just wind as a result of your riding speed) into your face and onto your glasses (always wear glasses by the way, keeps grit/dust/worse out of your eyes). The rear fender prevents dirty water from creating a skunk stripe up your back and dirtying the chain and seat post. If you're travelling in a group, the rear fender prevents dirty water from spraying all over the person behind you.

    If you're riding in the rain, there is nothing preventing the rain from coming down on you and the bike; the fenders reduce the dirty road water from getting on you and the bike.
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    Fenders decorative?? That's like calling the seat or frame decorative, it's a 100% functional part of a proper transportation bicycle, keeping whats on the tires from being on you. Mud, sand, road gunk, even nails and stuff can get tossed at you with no fenders. Other day i was feeling adventurous & took that jaguar down to see the flooded creek. I stayed in the 2-5 mph range so i didnt get muck & water from the flooded trail all over me from the rear wheel.

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    Thanks for the update. As for fenders, think of it this way.. what all goes on the ground? GROSS STUFF! Now say it's been dry a good long while... all that crap on the ground is in the dust your wheels are throwing up, wet spot? Imagine what's in the wet spot.. and when it does rain unless you like skunk streaks made of mud and lord only knows what else.. and possibly getting that in your mouth.. now I bet you can see practical use for all year round fenders?
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    The campus security Auction sale would get a bike abandoned by some one else . for cheap.. then It will need a new lock ..

    Uni in Miami Fla, Says Beach cruiser to my Mind ,, and like I said the Bus for that 30 mile, 60 RT.

    so you have time and energy to do the school work and maybe even, in the end, Graduate.

    abandoning that bike again in the racks when You're done.

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    Quote Originally Posted by speedndistance View Post
    @jyl @TransitBiker @RaleighSport
    For those of you who don't appreciate cliff hangers: I purchased the GT GRX 44CM bike for 380 and the gentleman was nice enough to include a a helmet, bike rack, bike pouch, and extra tube. To make the seat more comfortable I took an inch of the bike post to have more space.
    Sounds great!

    30 miles is a significant distance, especially being new to a road bike. Your back is probably just getting used to the new activity. Don't overdo it at first, give yourself a couple days off here and there.

    On fenders - they are a must if your climate is consistently rainy, like it is where I live. They don't stop the (relatively) clean rain falling from the sky and getting you wet, but they reduce the (dirty) water (mixed with dirt, oil, dog poo, what have you) on the road from spraying all over you and the bike. If it rains only occasionally, then of course fenders become optional.

    Fendered or not, eventually you'll be on your way to school when the heavens open up. If you carry a cap and a cheap, light rain shell *** in your pack, you can put the cap under the helmet and the shell over your top, get to school not totally soaked, and maybe change into the dry spare top, tights, and socks that hopefully also live in a ziplock bag at the bottom of the pack. *** something like Universal Cycles -- O2 Cycling Rain Jacket Is there a place that sells second-hand outdoor gear in Miami? There are places like that where I live, and you can pick up light rain shells for very little $.

    Backpack or panniers - the advantage of the pack is that you can easily carry it around school and you don't weigh down the bike with a rack, the advantage of the panniers is that it doesn't sit on your back for 30 miles. I personally use a backpack, but I'm not riding 30 miles . . . .

    If you decide to put a rack on the bike, you may need "P clamps" *** on the seat stays, since your bike doesn't have eyelets. *** is like Amazon.com: Delta Cycle Stay Mount Clamps: Sports & Outdoors But a bike shop should be able to sort it out.

    Whether pack or pannier, if you might get caught in a storm, the luggage should be waterproof since you are carrying an expensive laptop and books. Wrapping your MacBook in a plastic bag wouldn't hurt either.
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