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Old 05-15-14, 05:44 PM   #51
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Two in two weeks. Same M.O. Might have even been the same nut. His thing is to holler at the top of his lungs to "Get the F*** out of the way!" This despite me going in the opposite direction and not even being close. The second time (yesterday) it was the same quote, but yelled from over a half block away from a street I'd just crossed.

These are disquieting for me. Takes a ride or two to shake them off and get feeling comfortable again.

Before these it was about three months. A yeller/ honker.
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Two in two weeks. Same M.O. Might have even been the same nut. His thing is to holler at the top of his lungs to "Get the F*** out of the way!" This despite me going in the opposite direction and not even being close. The second time (yesterday) it was the same quote, but yelled from over a half block away from a street I'd just crossed.

These are disquieting for me. Takes a ride or two to shake them off and get feeling comfortable again.

Before these it was about three months. A yeller/ honker.
What an unfortunate person. Hopefully some electro shock therapy & a Rx of 4 chill pills a day will pull some ants out of their pants...

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I was riding down a major (arterial) road here in Portland - NE Sandy for the locals - probably doing 25 mph, just managing to pace the car ahead of me, feeling fairly pleased. A car that had been following behind us changed lanes to pass me on the left - a safe pass, plenty of room - and the passenger stuck his head out the window and yelled something not entirely intelligible but clearly uncomplimentary. I heard "road" and "idiot".

This bothered me for a few seconds, and then I realized that I hardly remember the last time I've encountered a hostile driver, or passenger in this case, and that made me smile. Thinking hard about it, I'd say it has been at least 100 weeks or 2 years.

So, here is the question. How many weeks has it been since your last encounter with a HOSTILE driver or passenger.

Be clear on the definition: by "HOSTILE", I mean s/he cursed at you, threw something, deliberately buzzed or swerved at or brake checked you, or otherwise intentionally directed overt abuse or intimidation at you. I do not mean s/he was inattentive, clueless, moron, passed you too close because s/he was picking her nose with her mascara brush, or s/he sent you hostile vibes or nasty looks or lips were mouthing something unpleasant. Let's not be babies about this. We're riding in the city, mixing with cars, need thick skin.
Maybe 4 years or so.

I was taking the lane on SE 12th and someone did not like that. At the next stop light he rolled down the window and started screaming obscenities. When he exited the car I actually removed my my u-lock from my pocket but he just continued to scream at me from the driver side of the car. I felt very sorry for the miserable looking lady in the passenger seat.

Most of my heated encounters with motorists are the result of my chasing them down and attempting to start a polite conversation about their responsibilities as drivers.
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It occurred to me this morning that I get mad and yell at drivers much more often than they yell at me...at least more often than I hear them yell at me.

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What an unfortunate person. Hopefully some electro shock therapy & a Rx of 4 chill pills a day will pull some ants out of their pants...

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Getting out of that car and onto a bike might change his perspective as well...
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Maybe 4 years or so.

I was taking the lane on SE 12th and someone did not like that. At the next stop light he rolled down the window and started screaming obscenities. When he exited the car I actually removed my my u-lock from my pocket but he just continued to scream at me from the driver side of the car. I felt very sorry for the miserable looking lady in the passenger seat.

Most of my heated encounters with motorists are the result of my chasing them down and attempting to start a polite conversation about their responsibilities as drivers.
We should get together for a beer sometime. I think we ride the same roads.
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Getting out of that car and onto a bike might change his perspective as well...
Or standing on a desk.

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Whereabouts in Delta?
Probably Tsawwassen, still house hunting, though. And yep, definitely a difference between aggressive and hostile
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I was riding down a major (arterial) road here in Portland - NE Sandy for the locals - probably doing 25 mph, just managing to pace the car ahead of me, feeling fairly pleased. A car that had been following behind us changed lanes to pass me on the left - a safe pass, plenty of room - and the passenger stuck his head out the window and yelled something not entirely intelligible but clearly uncomplimentary. I heard "road" and "idiot".

This bothered me for a few seconds, and then I realized that I hardly remember the last time I've encountered a hostile driver, or passenger in this case, and that made me smile. Thinking hard about it, I'd say it has been at least 100 weeks or 2 years.

So, here is the question. How many weeks has it been since your last encounter with a HOSTILE driver or passenger.

Be clear on the definition: by "HOSTILE", I mean s/he cursed at you, threw something, deliberately buzzed or swerved at or brake checked you, or otherwise intentionally directed overt abuse or intimidation at you. I do not mean s/he was inattentive, clueless, moron, passed you too close because s/he was picking her nose with her mascara brush, or s/he sent you hostile vibes or nasty looks or lips were mouthing something unpleasant. Let's not be babies about this. We're riding in the city, mixing with cars, need thick skin.
A car-load of college students yelled something unintelligible, but distinctly unfriendly, at me yesterday. I put it down as young men being drunk idiots, and didn't react or take it personally. Before that, nothing for years. No, wait- about two weeks ago, a guy honked at me and gave me the finger while I was riding in the bike lane, minding my own business. I flipped him off in turn, he slowed down, then stopped, hoping to intimidate me, I guess, which gave me an opportunity to tell him what I thought of his behavior in person. I'm afraid I made liberal use of the F word, and so did he. He seemed really angry, but also kind of freaked out.

This makes me wonder- maybe I get harassed more than I think, but I just forget about it, because it's not that important to me in the grand scheme of things?
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Being in Amsterdam, I have the "right" to be rude to everyone who's not on two wheels (not many people), but yesterday, some jerk pretended that I should cross on red light and when I positioned myself in the pavement, he yelled at me in some language I didn't understand (judging for his looks he was of indian descent), so I cursed him in catalan in return. The main problem here are moped drivers (allowed to use the bike lanes) who pass you by the right. Rude, clueless and profanity-motivator but not really hostile.

In Barcelona I've found some idiots who will get too close to you, but the main problem are hostile peds. Basically, people who hate cyclers and thus walk into the bike lane and get surprised at bells being rung at them shouting "you've got no right to do that" accompained by several mentions at your lack of education and your mother's profession. Usually the universal "bugger off sign" helps.
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I don't know exactly how many weeks but I can tell you when it was;
The first morning commute after the time change back in November. A car passed really close while laying on the horn. The only two on the road for "miles" were that vehicle and me. They could've easily pulled over and passed, unimpeded in the adjacent lane.

fwiw, I've noticed a trend. I get the hostile pass/driver at the major time changing landmarks in the calendar; When school starts, lets out, at the beginning or end of daylight savings time etc.
I believe this to be a result of people adjusting their schedules - so I'm encountering a new group of drivers. After a couple weeks they get accustomed to seeing me there and the hostilities subside - until the next time altering event.
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