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Old 05-16-14, 10:04 AM   #1
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Is there an app or website

That you can punch in the route you plan to take that will tell you how far it is and what grade the hills are???
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Old 05-16-14, 10:08 AM   #2
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Google Maps does that now I believe.
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If I am traveling to an area I'm not familiar with, I use Garmin Connect to find routes others have ridden or run (no garmin required to browse/explore).
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Thanks!!! I went with map my ride. Seems to have everything that I want.
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Thanks!!! I went with map my ride. Seems to have everything that I want.
I use MapMyRide to track mileage on various parts on my bike (tires, chains, brake pads, etc.). It's OK, but I find that it is really bad at accurately representing grade and elevation changes, particularly for longer rides. My understanding is that it samples the elevation at various intervals along the route and the longer the route the farther between samples. So if your route goes down a steep hill and immediately back up a steep hill MapMyRide might not even notice it.
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IMO RideWithGPS.com is better than MapMyRide.com. YMMV.
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Make a kml with various tools such as google maps. Import into google earth. Right click on the route line and select "elevation profile". I've done this for many mountain routes and get consistent good results.
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milermeter.com is another option.
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Make a kml with various tools such as google maps. Import into google earth. Right click on the route line and select "elevation profile". I've done this for many mountain routes and get consistent good results.
Interesting. I gave that a try with my commute home. MapMyRide says it looks like this:



Google Earth says it looks like this:



Obviously Google Earth shows a bit more detail, but the thing that strikes me is that MMR claims the total elevation gain is 296 feet, while Google Earth puts it at 534 feet. Either way, it's mostly flat except for the kick at the end. The thing is I have found that my bike computer's altimeter does typically record nearly twice the elevation gain that Map My Ride claims.

The other point of curiosity here is that MMR claims that the highlighted area at the end (the area selected by MMR as a "climb") has an average grade of 2.7% over 1.2 miles. While approximately true, this is also entirely irrelevant. Google Earth says that grade for the last quarter mile doesn't drop below 7% and gets as steep as 16.6%. That's the kind of thing I want to know when I'm choosing a route.



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Interesting. I gave that a try with my commute home. MapMyRide says it looks like this:



Google Earth says it looks like this:



Obviously Google Earth shows a bit more detail, but the thing that strikes me is that MMR claims the total elevation gain is 296 feet, while Google Earth puts it at 534 feet. Either way, it's mostly flat except for the kick at the end. The thing is I have found that my bike computer's altimeter does typically record nearly twice the elevation gain that Google Earth claims.

The other point of curiosity here is that MMR claims that the highlighted area at the end (the area selected by MMR as a "climb") has an average grade of 2.7% over 1.2 miles. While approximately true, this is also entirely irrelevant. Google Earth says that grade for the last quarter mile doesn't drop below 7% and gets as steep as 16.6%. That's the kind of thing I want to know when I'm choosing a route.



Keep in mind that gps-based altimeters do a very poor job of measuring the Z axis. Your position comes from basic triangulation. Since all the satellites are in the sky, they all have a much better idea of the X/Y than the Z.
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Keep in mind that gps-based altimeters do a very poor job of measuring the Z axis.
Mine is barometric.

Also, I just noticed my original statement blamed the wrong source. It's Map My Ride that claims half the elevation gain that my computer records.
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IMO RideWithGPS.com is better than MapMyRide.com. YMMV.

^^ This, by a long shot!

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