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Old 06-03-14, 09:33 AM   #1
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Winter deterioration of tire patches?

I had a flat yesterday but, since it was a slow leak, I pumped it up and made it safely to work. I didn't get to fixing it until this morning with a previously patched tire that had been stowed in the garage over the winter and after 2 hrs, the replacement tube is almost flat. I haven't taken it off to see if it is the old patch that is leaking but, nevertheless, I am wondering if anyone has any experience with patches deteriorating in the cold of winter.
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I've never had an issue with vulcanized patches. However, I've seen the "glueless" patches absolutely fall off with age.

I do carry glueless patches for emergencies, but I pull them and replace them with vulcanized patches upon getting home.
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My patches normally outlast the tubes they are on.
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I never had problems with the patches, only with the guy fixing the flats (me)
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i;ve had occasion to rip up the good tubing around an old patch, trying the get the thing off!
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I had a flat yesterday but, since it was a slow leak, I pumped it up and made it safely to work. I didn't get to fixing it until this morning with a previously patched tire that had been stowed in the garage over the winter and after 2 hrs, the replacement tube is almost flat. I haven't taken it off to see if it is the old patch that is leaking but, nevertheless, I am wondering if anyone has any experience with patches deteriorating in the cold of winter.
Check your patchwork, Jrickards!
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I had a flat yesterday but, since it was a slow leak, I pumped it up and made it safely to work. I didn't get to fixing it until this morning with a previously patched tire that had been stowed in the garage over the winter and after 2 hrs, the replacement tube is almost flat. I haven't taken it off to see if it is the old patch that is leaking but, nevertheless, I am wondering if anyone has any experience with patches deteriorating in the cold of winter.
I believe vulcanizing patches need to be ridden to "set" properly.
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I believe vulcanizing patches need to be ridden to "set" properly.
I think you are correct, to a point. They seem to fair better when they are put under pressure, while drying.

I change out the tube, while on the road and then patch the hole after I get home or to the office. This means it goes into my saddle bag after patching and not back on the bike. So, I use a clamp from an old desk lamp to press the patch onto the tube, while it dries, overnight. I put a towel around the tube to protect it from the clamp's edges and a piece of wax-paper between the towel and the tube so they aren't glued together the next morning.



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Not that cold here in the winter

are you sure the patch was good in the 1st place? are you sure there is nothing still in the tire poking a new hole?
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Check your patchwork, Jrickards!
Are you saying that my mommy didn't teach me correctly!!!
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I think you are correct, to a point. They seem to fair better when they are put under pressure, while drying.

I change out the tube, while on the road and then patch the hole after I get home or to the office. This means it goes into my saddle bag after patching and not back on the bike. So, I use a clamp from an old desk lamp to press the patch onto the tube, while it dries, overnight. I put a towel around the tube to protect it from the clamp's edges and a piece of wax-paper between the towel and the tube so they aren't glued together the next morning.



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I use a clamp at home but one of the spring-loaded ones. And, I essentially do the same thing, switch tubes and then patch at home.

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It turned out that there was a staple in the tire which caused my tube to deflate but, because the staple was in on an angle and in rubbing the inside of the tire in the same direction prevented me from feeling it, that's why the "winterized" tube blew. However, by inadvertently rubbing the inside of the tire in the other direction, not only did I find the staple but put a hole in my finger too (that required a patch of the Bandaid variety). However, the old patch on on the winterized tire wasn't holding too well so I peeled it off and re-glued it.
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Smoking is not all bad......use the filters to find what's in the tire(cotton balls at home).....They don't bleed.....

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