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Old 06-20-14, 09:46 AM   #1
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Brooks Saddle

I'm looking to replace my stock saddle (trek 7.2fx) with a brooks b17.

My only concern is the... leather. I want leather, but not the water problem of leather lol. But I want leather more

Now, I commute everyday (thus the post in commuting) and the bike is locked up outdoors for 8-10 hours a day. Let's say for some reason it randomly rains, or I forget to put the bag on, will it completely ruin the saddle? Are they that prone to damage from water?

What if I'm on a long ride in the heat, will a sweaty bum cause problems?

Thanks in advance...
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Old 06-20-14, 09:48 AM   #2
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There are posts on this where people go back and forth on leather saddles and water. Leather saddles are pretty tough. Some of the fears about water are probably overblown. That said, no way I'd use a leather saddle on a lock up bike that will be left out 8-10 hours a day.
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Let's say for some reason it randomly rains, or I forget to put the bag on, will it completely ruin the saddle? Are they that prone to damage from water?
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What if I'm on a long ride in the heat, will a sweaty bum cause problems?
Not as much moisture, then ..

long multiple threads, already , on Brooks saddles , Perhaps you should read thru them?

cheap seat for the lockup .. Brooks get stolen these days, now that the sell for $100+.
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Old 06-20-14, 10:25 AM   #4
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From what I've read a little downpour every so often isn't terrible, especially if the saddle is brand new (and you let it dry out at room temp before riding it again!). I keep a rain cover on me during my commutes, and take it with me if I'm doing a longer just-for-fun ride and the weather looks it might turn. When I get to work, if there's a chance of rain, I just toss the rain cover on the saddle before locking up. And yeah, lock up your saddle/seat post if you can. I usually run a cable through the rails and lock it with my u-lock through the frame and front wheel. A longer cable (4 ft) will fit through the rails and both wheels, providing you've got your u lock going through one of the wheels. I also ordered a pitlock for the seat post, but saving that to install on my new bike.
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if its soaked, dont sit on it. let it dry 1st.. may take a couple days, indoors..
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Well, looks like there goes that idea. Found a good way to search the forum, read some threads, and realized it's just not worth it to deal with rain/theft on a $100 saddle.
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Well, looks like there goes that idea. Found a good way to search the forum, read some threads, and realized it's just not worth it to deal with rain/theft on a $100 saddle.
+1 agreed. Locking it up outside for 8-10 hours a day is a non starter.
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If you lock up I'd be more concerned with the saddle still being there when you come back. Get a quick release for the seat tube and bring it in with you
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I'll be "upgrading" to a road bike in the next couple months, want to take the search slow and find one I fall in love with. That bike will only be used to ride, not locked up etc. Therefore, I'll grab a brooks then.
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Consider a Brooks Cambium ?
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Get the Brooks Flyer. The springs are worth it over rough roads.
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by the way, I had a Brooks last year. Road it for a couple of months and traded it for a different saddle. It was the most uncomfortable thing I've ever sat on. It turned my bike into a torture chamber. The Brooks devotes all told me I needed to break it in more. Give it a year or so and it will be the most comfortable saddle ever. Who is going to ride in pain for a year hoping to break in a saddle?
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by the way, I had a Brooks last year. Road it for a couple of months and traded it for a different saddle. It was the most uncomfortable thing I've ever sat on. It turned my bike into a torture chamber. The Brooks devotes all told me I needed to break it in more. Give it a year or so and it will be the most comfortable saddle ever. Who is going to ride in pain for a year hoping to break in a saddle?
You can use leather conditioner to soften the leather. For me, a Brooks is comfortable out of the box. The big advantage of a leather over a plastic saddle is that with time, it will conform to your butt as it gets deformed under the pressure of being seated on it. That's the same reason why people wear leather shoes - it adapts to one's anatomy.
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You can use leather conditioner to soften the leather. For me, a Brooks is comfortable out of the box. The big advantage of a leather over a plastic saddle is that with time, it will conform to your butt as it gets deformed under the pressure of being seated on it. That's the same reason why people wear leather shoes - it adapts to one's anatomy.
Maybe. I used saddle soap on it everyday for 2 months. Ended up trading for an older carbon/leather Selle that feels great. Different saddles for different buts
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Well, looks like there goes that idea. Found a good way to search the forum, read some threads, and realized it's just not worth it to deal with rain/theft on a $100 saddle.
Living in southern California and storing my Nishiki/Brooks in the garage, I can't really speak to problems with rain.

I WILL say that, right out of the box and brand new, the Brooks B17 saddle is the most comfortable sports-oriented saddle I've ever experienced. Yes, it's hard, seems unyielding, and threatens to become uncomfortable after any long distance ride.

Trouble is, that threat never materializes. I just ride and ride without thinking of the saddle. Very much unlike my Specialized Roma, which creates chafing after 30 miles or so.

I wonder if it isn't the natural vs. man-made materials in the Brooks vs. the Roma. For both saddles, I'm careful to use them as a perch rather than as a chair. Most of you will know what I mean.

And by the way, both saddles cost about the same . . . DB
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I WILL say that, right out of the box and brand new, the Brooks B17 saddle is the most comfortable sports-oriented saddle I've ever experienced. Yes, it's hard, seems unyielding, and threatens to become uncomfortable after any long distance ride.

Trouble is, that threat never materializes. I just ride and ride without thinking of the saddle. Very much unlike my Specialized Roma, which creates chafing after 30 miles or so.
I would echo this regarding comfort of a brooks saddle. The day I got my B17 narrow, I went for a 50 mile ride, with zero discomfort. I've had it for two years and still love it. That being said, I'm thinking about going Cambium C15 for my new bike, mainly because I moved from southern california to Cincinnati, where rain is a constant threat throughout the year.
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by the way, I had a Brooks last year. Road it for a couple of months and traded it for a different saddle. It was the most uncomfortable thing I've ever sat on. It turned my bike into a torture chamber. The Brooks devotes all told me I needed to break it in more. Give it a year or so and it will be the most comfortable saddle ever. Who is going to ride in pain for a year hoping to break in a saddle?
A problem with Brooks saddles, for some, is that they do not slide back far enough in the seat post clamp. And then, unknowingly, the persons sit bones are on top of the rear rail (frame). To test for this it helps to reach underneath with your fingertips and feel for your sit bones while pedaling. You want your sit bones on suspended leather and not the rail. Of course, other factors such as saddle shape can cause discomfort too, but I suspect that when someone does not like the B-17 right out of the box it's because they're sitting on the rail. If there is not enough adjustment to get you off the rails, you either need a different saddle or a new seat post with more setback.

Hope this helps,

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Consider a Brooks Cambium ?
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