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Previously: 2000 Trek 4500 (2000-2003), 2003 Novara Randonee (2003-2006), 2003 Giant Rainier (2003-2008), 2005 Xootr Swift (2005-2007), 2007 Nashbar 1x9 (2007-2011), 2011 Windsor Shetland (2011-2014)
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I think there may be a legal issue here. Cosmetics aside, thinner will mean less impact attenuation, and bring it below the minimum certification standards. As you say, it may not matter to you, but can to the seller of such an item. There's a concept in law of an implied warranty of fitness for purpose. Ie. if you sell it as a knife it has to cut (not very well).
Likewise, if you sell something as a bicycle ******, or that may be thought to be one, based on looks, packaging and presentation, then there's an implication that it would offer protection. If that protection is below the generally accepted standards, you'd be vulnerable to a lawsuit based on your having falsely represented the product (even if you made no representations).
Just about the only way one could market such a device is by clearly stating that it's hat, to be worn for fashion. Since few people have interest in hats that look like bike ******* no one makes or sells them.
You might find something thinner that was made for another sport, but IME these tend not to be cool, since their users aren't hammering pedals in the mid-day heat.
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I have a tentative plan, to start with this:
strip the plastic off and shave down the raised parts, then cut out all the side pieces and all the extra stuff around the bottom. I'm thinking, narrow the front to back strips by 1/3 or 1/2.
Probably wrap the narrow pieces to keep it from breaking into bits, I have some leftover fiberglass window screen that I'll bet will do the trick. If I can find a way to glue it or otherwise affix it without destroying the styrofoam. Then some fake carbon fiber vinyl on top to give it some stiffness and an official roadie flair.
Conceptually it would look something like this, given a generous imagination.
Bike helmet - Welcome - YAKKAY or for some other activity that is not generally held to require special safety equipment.
Last edited by wphamilton; 07-22-14 at 10:02 AM.
As you note, basically all helmets are just styrofoam. If I wanted a lesser nutcase with a "unique" look, as I guess you are, I would de-plastic a regular brain bucket (so I still have all the strap infrastructure), shave down the foam with a boxcutter, and finally wrap it in duct tape. Perhaps colored or even multicolored, in a jaunty pattern. Home Despot et al offer duct tape in colors and even prints, like polka dot (KoM anyone?), zebra stripe, tiger stripe, jaguar spots, hello kitty, etc.
Also, I can't quite tell from your pic, but it might be interesting for you to rig up a special ponytail exit ring, or a topknot channel, or some such.
Last edited by RubeRad; 07-22-14 at 10:13 AM.
Ponytail pouch, that's an interesting idea. I also need to remember to leave room to mount my mp3 player and ear buds.
Move to NYC, where looking like a cyclist doesn't get you stares. For that matter, looking like the freakiest weirdo doesn't get you stares here, either.
As you probably know, NYC now has a "bike share" program. This has led to a fashion of walking around with a helmet on, with no bike. Works for me.
Ah, sticky duct tape, that's a good point. That stuff does seem to sweat out its adhesive. Maybe stick with higher quality "gaffer's tape"? But that stuff is pretty spendy, and if you go cheap on it, you're probably liable to basically be back to regular duct tape. Good luck with adhesive vinyl!
Another idea: maybe cut a t-shirt into like 2" or 3" wide strips, and wrap like a mummy? Secure ends with staples? Or how about papier mache? Hell, you could make an entire skullcap out of papier mache! It would be hella light. Make a frame out of pipe cleaners or other flexible wire? Depends on how much energy you want to expend in order to achieve nothing.
I wouldn't be so much worried about protection as I would a poor design causing damage.......not sliding along but catching and spinning only your head leaving you doing a Linda Blair impression without the benefits of Hollywood tricks.
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I'm not sure why the o.p. continues to be so coy. It is not attractive in an adult male in general, and is rather unhelpful in the current instance in particular. Beauty is very much in the eye of the beholder, and, although the o.p. finds most modern helmet stylings not to their individual tastes... they sell well. That satisfies those that purvey them and insures that their present design will be maintained for the foreseeable. Some cats there's only a couple.. or one, way to skin them. The two main ways to skin the cat of maintenance of cephalic integrity are an open lattice structure like most Giro helmets or a closed hockey style like most Bell helmets. You will note that Bell makes lattice style helmets and Giro probably has at least one hockey style helmet in their line-up. If there is a third way, even a non CPSA certified one, it isn't available. So we can't show it to the o.p. So, if they want to make money selling one they are going to have to design it themselves.
I'm not really concerned about what sells well, or what's standard with Giro and Bell. Or even what sells at all, except to the extent it's available for my purchase. Nor the styling beyond the probably forlorn hope that something less stupid looking won't still look goofy.
I'm not really sure what your point is here. The objectives are light weight, cool, less bulky, less goofy if possible, and inexpensive, and recognizably similar to bicycle equipment. I'm not really even talking about bike helmets. I don't think that any of your suggestions are applicable, but feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.
A modern foam hairnet, eh? Why not make a few and experiment?
I can't wait for the next pint of good chocolate milk after a long ride.
If you were looking for a motorcycle helmet there are (or at least were when I rode) options labeled NOT approved instead of DOT approved for the people looking to give the appearance of protection in areas with helmet laws. But one of those helmets wouldn't be what you're looking for here.
Truth: What you want exists, but costs money and is actually certified.
So, what's the deal? Do you live in an area with "adornment" laws? I chose to wear one, but if you don't want to, that's fine. You don't need to waste time and energy to keeping up appearances unless you're worried about a financial penalty.
I am no designer myself.... but I think I'd start with designer [fake] safety shoes. Maybe use a simple foil in place of a thick steel... as a replacement for steel-toe shoes. Not that toes aren't important. But compared to brains... maybe less important.
Last edited by Dave Cutter; 07-22-14 at 05:57 PM.
Actually my wife wove me a belt out of military grade parachord, unwinds to 90 feet so I could rappel off a building if I was overcome by a fit of action heroics. Pretty cool actually. She also gave me a fake carabiner key ring but I don't carry it.Have you thought about maybe fake mountain climbing harnesses?
My earbuds are justified for this purpose.Or pretend hearing protection?
I sense that you're not following the purpose. That's ok, I'm not out to sell anything or proselytize my point of view.