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    http://www.538.nl acidfast7's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by I-Like-To-Bike View Post
    No wonder you see no reason for doors in public bathrooms.

    The outside bushes are even easier, especially since there is toilet paper to supply; the users either bring their own (or use whatever grass or leaves laying about) and take the used toilet paper with them or leave it on the ground to naturally degrade just like their bodily waste. Needless to say no water is available to wash up for those so inclined.
    No need for doors, just two 90 degree angles and all is good.

    I've been around Asia a fair bit and their low-tech solutions (holes with bars and a hose) and high-tech solutions (japan with the automatic yet adjustable pressure bidet) are fine.

    Why do we make a big deal in the West?
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    Quote Originally Posted by acidfast7 View Post
    Why do we make a big deal in the West?
    Two words: Queen Victoria

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    Quote Originally Posted by acidfast7 View Post
    No need for doors, just two 90 degree angles and all is good.

    I've been around Asia a fair bit and their low-tech solutions (holes with bars and a hose) and high-tech solutions (japan with the automatic yet adjustable pressure bidet) are fine.

    Why do we make a big deal in the West?
    Is that what you propose for all the toilet stalls too?
    Why do people in the West sometimes do things differently than our Asian friends? For the same reason Occidentals use knives and forks and not chopsticks.
    We can't all be so worldly as you and always find some reason to disparage Western or American cultural mores.

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    Quote Originally Posted by I-Like-To-Bike View Post
    Is that what you propose for all the toilet stalls too?
    Why do people in the West sometimes do things differently than our Asian friends? For the same reason Occidentals use knives and forks and not chopsticks.
    We can't all be so worldly as you and always find some reason to disparage Western or American cultural mores.
    I don't think I've disparaged Western/American morals at all.

    I like the independence that comes with being Western as we are not so enshrined in historical action.

    I wouldn't say I'm worldly, in fact, the opposite, I feel quite lacking and am fighting very hard for a position where my children would get multiple languages by default to compensate for my lack of worldliness ... I can't provide them with what I don't know, however, I am working hard to know what I don't know, that way I can provide an optimal environment for intellectual nourishment.
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    So, we are supposed to clean our bikes with bidets.



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    Quote Originally Posted by TransitBiker View Post
    So, we are supposed to clean our bikes with bidets.



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    the last two places I lived had "wetrooms" with no shower per se just a slightly slanted floor with a hose/coming out of the wall. i could roll the bike in an hose it down or clean anything really easily.

    kind of like this but a little smaller and without the freestanding tub.

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    england ... hmmm ... not so advanced.
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    actually, "morals" are a subset of "mores", mores being a cultural norm not necessarily dealing with morality...

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    Quote Originally Posted by e0richt View Post
    actually, "morals" are a subset of "mores", mores being a cultural norm not necessarily dealing with morality...
    fair enough. i misread that.

    i do make fun of American mores quite a bit of late given the whole MH17 issue.
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    Did you guys just went from bike dusting to toilets and personal hygiene?
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    Quote Originally Posted by dramiscram View Post
    Did you guys just went from bike dusting to toilets and personal hygiene?
    Yes. This thread has devolved into a forum for their bickering.
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    Did you guys just went from talking about personal hygiene, to talking about talking about personal hygiene?

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    Quote Originally Posted by acidfast7 View Post
    fair enough. i misread that.

    i do make fun of American mores quite a bit of late given the whole MH17 issue.
    Either I misread this wacky sentence of yours, or it makes no sense at all. Why not explain in P&R your version of the relationship of American mores and the whole MH17 issue?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TransitBiker View Post
    +1 Andy. Clean is a good thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by acidfast7 View Post
    the last two places I lived had "wetrooms" with no shower per se just a slightly slanted floor with a hose/coming out of the wall. i could roll the bike in an hose it down or clean anything really easily.

    kind of like this but a little smaller and without the freestanding tub.

    1.jpeg

    england ... hmmm ... not so advanced.
    Funny what passes for advanced. My 75 year old home, like many from that era around here, had a similar setup in the unfinished half of the basement. Definitely not as elegant and also without a tub. Basically on one side of the room there was a showerhead, a sink, and a toilet near the corner. There was no shower enclosure, just a concrete floor graded towards a drain.

    My childhood home which was built in the late 50's also had something like it but my father built a wall of concrete blocks around that portion of the basement to provide a little bit of privacy.

    Though they functioned as bathrooms and showers of last resort, the intention was that they could be used to clean stuff or people that were too dirty or too big for the "nice" bathroom.

    Since houses of that era also tend to be smaller than houses built today, and people have more crap then they did back then, even if those old showers are left in place they often aren't used because of all the extra space they require vs an enclosed shower stall. Sometimes people will put walls around them. In our case the floor drain was about 6ft away from the shower head. At one point a previous owner had pipe/tubing suspended from the ceiling to allow for a set of curtains but that portion of the basement is barely heated and you'd still have a stream of water running across the floor.

    I can see how a higher end version of an arrangement like that would be nice in place of a standard bathroom if you have the space.
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    Love it! I keep an old towel on the porch, and give mine a good wipe when I get back from a ride. I love a clean and shiny bike, and it give me a chance to look for frayed cables, tire issues, or other problems.

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    Quote Originally Posted by acidfast7 View Post
    the last two places I lived had "wetrooms" with no shower per se just a slightly slanted floor with a hose/coming out of the wall. i could roll the bike in an hose it down or clean anything really easily.

    kind of like this but a little smaller and without the freestanding tub.

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    england ... hmmm ... not so advanced.

    Could I get the next couple of pictures in this series? Please?

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    Quote Originally Posted by gdhillard View Post
    Could I get the next couple of pictures in this series? Please?
    really? she looks quite generic.
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