Exercise and depression
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Cool website, I think.
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I get a picture of some posters who have no personal experience with individuals who have clinical depression, but feel free to jabber glibly about cures and fixes for insignificant or common cases of the blahs (or not in the mood to ride a bike), as if it were interchange with treatment for individuals dealing with serious mental health conditions.
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it bums me out that I have to work out so much just to counteract aging and working my way up to a desk job
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I see that most people exercise less when they get old. But you need more exercise as you age, not less. As for being bummed about it, it helps to accept things and move on. Remember, life is hard and then you die.
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The US medical system is designed to create profits for the drug and insurance companies, not healthy patients. Sick patients are more profitable than healthy patients, and sick patients that have a condition that need a lot of drugs are what the US medical system is based on.
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You're condescending position doesn't explain why there is a drug store on every corner in my city. If there were that many people with serious depression and no way out except with a drug kick start (which I acknowledge has its place), half the city wouldn't function.
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A number of us have already discussed this, that commuting (or any form of cycling) helps us manage our depression. In today's Globe and Mail, there is an article titled Outrunning Depression and although the article focuses on people with depression finding that participating in running helps them, the article also expands its discussion to include exercise in general.
Coincidentally, before I read this, while on my commute in to work today, I got to wondering if communities with significant populations of bike commuters have any statistics regarding reduced rate of depression in their population, Copenhagen for instance.
Coincidentally, before I read this, while on my commute in to work today, I got to wondering if communities with significant populations of bike commuters have any statistics regarding reduced rate of depression in their population, Copenhagen for instance.
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I have mixed feelings about cycling/depression.
When i'm headed to work in 100 degree heat on my bike & people cruise by in their cars with the a/c on I feel a little down cause I miss my truck.
But when i'm rolling around the lake on my bike I feel peaceful.
Part of me wants to buy another truck cause that might make my life easier.
But part of me wants to live off the grid, & cycling makes me more independent...
When i'm headed to work in 100 degree heat on my bike & people cruise by in their cars with the a/c on I feel a little down cause I miss my truck.
But when i'm rolling around the lake on my bike I feel peaceful.
Part of me wants to buy another truck cause that might make my life easier.
But part of me wants to live off the grid, & cycling makes me more independent...
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As someone who has PTSD i can say that days i'm not riding are noticably more difficult than days that i do ride to get through.
As my rear wheel popped a third spoke in 4 months and no way to transport the thing on my own to the shop, i'm not looking forward to this down time which may be 2-3 weeks. I'm just glad the shop is closer & easier to get to on foot/via transit to go pick it up. I'll likely ride it home...
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As my rear wheel popped a third spoke in 4 months and no way to transport the thing on my own to the shop, i'm not looking forward to this down time which may be 2-3 weeks. I'm just glad the shop is closer & easier to get to on foot/via transit to go pick it up. I'll likely ride it home...
- Andy
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A number of us have already discussed this, that commuting (or any form of cycling) helps us manage our depression. In today's Globe and Mail, there is an article titled Outrunning Depression and although the article focuses on people with depression finding that participating in running helps them, the article also expands its discussion to include exercise in general.
Coincidentally, before I read this, while on my commute in to work today, I got to wondering if communities with significant populations of bike commuters have any statistics regarding reduced rate of depression in their population, Copenhagen for instance.
Coincidentally, before I read this, while on my commute in to work today, I got to wondering if communities with significant populations of bike commuters have any statistics regarding reduced rate of depression in their population, Copenhagen for instance.
I know that UNICEF ranks Amsterdam as having the happiest children in the world. I know that it has more to do with cycling, such as having access to education, good health care, etc. , but I can't get my mind off of those kids I saw when I visited there , having the freedom to safely cycle all over the place. That would have made me happy, that's for sure!
I definitely use cycling and running to keep myself in good mental condition. I had definite mental health issues in my late teens/early 20's. I never took meds, I turned to exercise and cognitive therapy. Now that my life is much more stable and I have more confidence, control over my own life, etc., exercise is still a definite mood enhancer. I can't help but be cheerful when I arrive to work on my bike. In fact, the worse the weather on the way there, the happier I feel when I arrive!
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I hate this talk of whether or not drugs are appropriate. It is a subject for you and your doctor. I wouldn't tell an asthmatic that they can breathe easier if they just calm down.
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You're right in that the need for drugs should be between the doctor and patient. But getting the best answer from someone who's training is limited to the use of drugs or surgery is unlikely, and that's why it's normal here to have so many people taking subsidized drugs with warnings like "(P)sychiatric side effects including cases of hypomania and mania, apathy, indifference, disinhibition (without concurrent hypomania), hallucinations, paranoid, suicidal or antisocial ideation, abnormal thinking, and panic attacks have been reported" at times when mass shootings have become more common. We'd be better off if it were normal for people with mild to moderate depression went somewhere for group exercising and to learn about nutrition (remember when health clubs used to do this?) and had those costs subsidized just like the costs of drugs are. But that's considered too costly and different here in the US, and comes across as telling an asthmatic that they can breathe easier if they just calm down.