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    Which rear light?

    I have a Cateye Volt 50 rear light mounted on my seat stay, but its not ideal as it's so low. The mounting bracket it came with is to fit on saddle rails. Most of the lights on the market at the moment seem designed to fit saddle rails of seat post, but I have a saddle bag in the way. I find my saddle bag really useful though - any good suggestions for good rear light set-ups that don't preclude a saddlebag?

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    I highly recommend the Cygolite Hotshot, which has several useful modes, is USB rechargeable, and available for $30 or less from most places. They have recently redesigned the seat post and seat stay mounts, which are excellent. A rack mount is available separately. I run 2 on my bike, one on the seat stay and one on the rack. Before I got the rack, I was using the seat post mount.
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    I'm another fan of the Cygolite Hotshot. It's an outstanding light at a very reasonable price. If the price seems high, wait until you get it. Then you'll see you got your money's worth.
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    +1 more for the Cygolite Hotshot. I think they've updated the line for 2014/2015 too.

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    Cygolite hotshot with a rack mount here. Multiple rack mounts, one cygolite. The rack mounts are cheap and sturdy, so I put one on all of the bikes I keep. Thinking about getting a second hotshot to keep in my bag should I forget to charge my primary one, or otherwise need a backup.
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    Light and motion vis 180 on the seatpost. I love this light.

    Plus a light and motion front and rear helmet light, a planet bike superflash turbo rear light, and reflectors because the more the merrier when it comes to lights.

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    If you're going to spend the money on a PBSF Turbo you might as well just go ahead and get the Hotshot. Seriously, it's almost the same price and you get a 2-watt light vs. a 1-watt light, plus USB recharging capability which is really handy.

    I personally don't know why anyone would spend the money on what a PBSF Turbo costs, when stuff like the Hotshot or other similar 2-watt lights are available.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PatrickGSR94 View Post
    If you're going to spend the money on a PBSF Turbo you might as well just go ahead and get the Hotshot. Seriously, it's almost the same price and you get a 2-watt light vs. a 1-watt light, plus USB recharging capability which is really handy.

    I personally don't know why anyone would spend the money on what a PBSF Turbo costs, when stuff like the Hotshot or other similar 2-watt lights are available.
    My recommendation was for the Light and Motion vis 180 and then as many lights as possible. I've owned the PBSF Turbo for a while because I like keeping one set of lights that run off batteries for some applications; YMMV.

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    Saddlebag...I ran with a Carradice saddle bag on one of my bikes, really liked it. It sat on the bikes rack, attached to the saddle. I was able to mount rear lights onto the rack. But if I'd have had no rack, that would have been tough, because no matter how tight you fasten a light to the bag it's going to rotate slightly to the side, or face downwards, etc. How about two matching lights set higher on the stays?

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    Quote Originally Posted by LordMarv View Post
    Saddlebag...I ran with a Carradice saddle bag on one of my bikes, really liked it. It sat on the bikes rack, attached to the saddle. I was able to mount rear lights onto the rack. But if I'd have had no rack, that would have been tough, because no matter how tight you fasten a light to the bag it's going to rotate slightly to the side, or face downwards, etc. How about two matching lights set higher on the stays?
    That's some good advice. I use an inexpensive cateye rear light attached to a saddlebag, and the light does tilt downwards. It's certainly better than not running a light at all, but far from optimal.

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    Pulse 60 from Performance Bike.

    As bright as the Hotshot but wider beam. I own both, I would not buy the Hotshot again. it's too spotty.

    They're pretty much the same price too.
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    I don't know if I would like a USB tail light. I keep both of my PDW Radbot 1000s zip tied to my bike, and swap out re-chargable batteries about once a week on the weekend, so maybe 6 hours of use at the most. I don't take them off the bike in between. How long with the Cygolite run on fully bright flash mode?
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    I have a Cygolite Hotshot and a PDW Danger Zone. The PDW seems brighter to me. This page is from 2013, but has a decent comparison of many lights:

    The Best Bicycle Taillights of 2013 Ģ Stack Exchange Bicycles Blog

    Personally, I prefer lights that use regular batteries; I can carry spare rechargeable batteries.
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    I tried a LnM Vis 180 Micro from the LBS, and the recharge port broke off the PC board inside the light housing the very first time I tried to plug it in. I returned it and ordered the Hotshot online for less money.

    Yes the Hotshot has a narrow beam, but when seen from hundreds of yards away by an approaching motorist behind you, they WILL see it. By the time you're that far back, the beam is at least the width of 4 or 5 travel lanes.

    *edit* oh yeah, I also DESPISED the Light n Motion Vis 180's mounting bracket. Rubber strap with a tilt-angle bracket. No thank you. The Hotshot's bracket is far superior.
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    I use a B&M Topline Flat S plus which provides a large, bright, steady taillight, a Soma Silver Bullet for the flashing function, and a standard fender mount reflector.

    My backup commuter has a Portland Design Works fender mounted unit, it doesn't show up very well in daylight, but I supplement it with a vintage Sturmey Archer taillight with LED bulb that is very bright.
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    I use a B&M toplight [back of rear rack] Line [Fresnel type lens turns 2 LED's into a bright line + light up the rest of the taillight]
    plus(it runs off hub dynamo) but they also make a battery version.

    there the senso feature, option is useful. switch in that mode, it can be left 'on' & will light when you are moving and its not daylight
    then turn itself off when you stop. ... for a few minutes (time, longer than stoplights )

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    Quote Originally Posted by irishtexmex View Post
    +1 more for the Cygolite Hotshot. I think they've updated the line for 2014/2015 too.
    I have a couple of Planet Bike SuperFlash Turbos on my bikes. Both seat post and rack mounted. They’ve always performed well but I’m getting tired of the AAA battery thing. So, I’m going to go for a couple Cygolite Hotshots for the additional brightness and USB charging.

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    Quote Originally Posted by a1penguin View Post
    Personally, I prefer lights that use regular batteries; I can carry spare rechargeable batteries.
    I don't blame you, but my take is different, and here is why. My view of headlights is the same but of tail lights is different. To me, a headlight contributes more to safety than a tail light does, in both being seen and in seeing. A headlight needs a lot more power, so any rechargeable battery could give out before a ride is over. A spare battery is a good plan for a headlight, though I prefer a dynamo light to eliminate that need.

    A rechargeable tail light goes weeks between charges, so I only have to be somewhat fastidious with charging to stay safe. With a rechargeable headlight, I could potentially charge it in the morning, ride it that night and then need to run it longer than I expected. Suddenly, I'm in trouble. That can't happen with a tail light. As I said, I rely mostly on dynamo powered headlights, but battery tail lights are fine with me.
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    Weeks? My tail lights usually barely last more than a week. But then again my weekly cycling is usually on the order of 10-12 total hours.
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    Interesting thoughts, noglider. I think rear lights are VERY important to safety, maybe more so than head lights. A front light allows me to see the road. Cars coming from the other direction are on the other lane which pose less danger than cars beside me. I can see and react to cars in front of me, but not so for cars behind me. I have three red blinkies on my bike for this reason. And I change batteries about every 10 hours on the red blinkies. It's easy enough to throw my Eneloop AAA in the charger overnight. One of my front lights is an 800 lumen flashlight and I swap the battery after my 65-70 minute commute home.
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    Quote Originally Posted by a1penguin View Post
    I have a Cygolite Hotshot and a PDW Danger Zone. The PDW seems brighter to me. This page is from 2013, but has a decent comparison of many lights:

    The Best Bicycle Taillights of 2013 Ģ Stack Exchange Bicycles Blog

    Personally, I prefer lights that use regular batteries; I can carry spare rechargeable batteries.
    I also use PDW Danger Zone lights. They are quite bright. I use them with rechargeable Eneloop or similar NiMH batteries.

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    The quality of Light and Motion products is excellent. The Light and Motion vis 180 has a very good mounting bracket but it is designed for a seatpost.

    I like that there is a separate light indicator that tells you when the battery needs recharging.

    The beam quality is very good and it has a wide angle which I think is particularly important in a rear light. The brightness of the light combined with the wide angle of the beam are the primary reasons why I purchased the light.
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    Cygolite Hotshot on helmet, PDW Danger Zone on seat post. Nobody has ever complained that they can't see me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PatrickGSR94 View Post
    If you're going to spend the money on a PBSF Turbo you might as well just go ahead and get the Hotshot. Seriously, it's almost the same price and you get a 2-watt light vs. a 1-watt light, plus USB recharging capability which is really handy.

    I personally don't know why anyone would spend the money on what a PBSF Turbo costs, when stuff like the Hotshot or other similar 2-watt lights are available.
    Ironically I use both a PBSF Turbo and a Hotshot on my bike. The Hotshot is better (usb, a huge choice of flash patterns and levels of brightness, 2 watts, etc.) but I still keep my SuperFlash next to it. They're quite a combination.
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    Lots of saddlebags have straps on the bike to fit a rear reflector belt clip. Sewing one on if yours does not have one, would be easy.

    (Funny, I just bought a new light. Has post availability issues like you and was debating buying that brand when the shop owner pointed out the strap on my tool bag. 2 days later I read your post.)

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