I virtually never care about who I pass or if I pass somebody...
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Methinks papa doth protest too much: i think your comment smacked of the bias that the "proper" way to commute was to do so at low speeds. there will always be commuters who enjoy a bit of adrenaline on their way to work and i think this style of commuting -- one that combines transport and exercise -- can be a selling point for transportation cycling (esp in anglo nations).
The original poster made a statement regarding not caring about passing or being passed. I am simply trying to support his outlook on cycling.
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I'm pretty slow, so I get passed tons on my commute to work. I don't mind being passed on the left, but I'll get passed on the right -- between me and the "door zone" -- which always makes me really uncomfortable.
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I cycle pretty slowly so passing cyclists is the norm. But one day there was a cyclist with the squeakiest chain and cogs I've ever had the misfortune to encounter who rode just ahead of me on the road. The squeaking was driving me nuts and I sped up and passed him and his sad squeaky bike and continued briskly for a couple of blocks.
Several weeks later I saw the same guy on the same squeaky bike riding along the street while I was unlocking my bike. I decided to let several minutes pass by before getting on my bike. Such squeaking! How somebody stand riding that bike is beyond me.
Several weeks later I saw the same guy on the same squeaky bike riding along the street while I was unlocking my bike. I decided to let several minutes pass by before getting on my bike. Such squeaking! How somebody stand riding that bike is beyond me.
I ride fairly quick, even when I'm tired. I only have two speeds fast and stop. Luckily I rarely ride long distance (more than 50 miles) otherwise this might be a problem. I rarely get passed. But, if I do it's no skin off my back that they use PEDs for their daily commute.
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On my way home, I get passed on the first climb (about 300' over 1.5 miles) fairly regularly since I only average around 8 MPH on that climb. I readily admit that I CCFS, though. 25 years of smoking, 16 years of heavy drinking, 40 lbs of excess weight, and 12 years of sedentary living have taken their toll. I get better and better, but, very slowly. On my way to work, I very rarely see anyone. Usually, it takes me 45 - 50 minutes to ride the 15 miles to work. The ride home is traffic-filled and takes me around 80 minutes.
It doesn't bother me to get passed unless the cyclist doing the passing blows through a red light to do it.
It doesn't bother me to get passed unless the cyclist doing the passing blows through a red light to do it.
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Sometimes I'm racing the clock if I'm running late to work. Otherwise I'm a 'stop & small the roses' kind of guy on the bike. To me, a bike isn't a piece of sporting equipment. It's an adventuremobile. I like to adventure and explore. Going fast prevents me from taking in the sights and getting lost in the moment when on the bike. It's like rushing to finish a beer. I prefer to enjoy the experience.
Some enjoy challenging themselves and others, and that's cool too. I don't ride for them, though. I ride for me. I've had a few times where a random bike guy will try to egg me on for a little race time. I just shrug and give them the 'not this guy' look. Go get your type A personality boost somewhere else, dudebro.
Some enjoy challenging themselves and others, and that's cool too. I don't ride for them, though. I ride for me. I've had a few times where a random bike guy will try to egg me on for a little race time. I just shrug and give them the 'not this guy' look. Go get your type A personality boost somewhere else, dudebro.
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My commute is on the nation's most heavily used bike commuting route, the Hudson River Greenway, yet I don't find it too congested. I love it.
I haven't acted like a competitor on it for a few months. Today, I merged onto the path and saw a "serious" commuter behind me, and I got caught up in the spirit. I rode hard for a while, and he maintained a distance of about 50 feet behind me. I have an eyeglass-mounted mirror, which is how I know. Eventually, I let up, and he passed me. His pace was just slightly harder than I like for myself.
Today's ride
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I don't ride that fast (14.0 average) but there are so few cyclists (or bicycle riders) on my commute that passing or being passed is rarely an issue.
On the rare chance that said cyclists or riders are actually going the correct direction on that side of the road/street they are usually on the sidewalk . . . which slows them down a bit. Plus, they are usually on Wal-Mart BSO's which slows them down a bit more.
The vast majority of the time, however, they are Salmon so avoiding a head-on is my top priority!
The one exception on my 400+ commutes was a nice guy on a Cannondale and were the same speed so we just rode along and talked. I've experienced nothing competitive but maybe, one day, where there are more cyclists on my commute route it could happen.
Until then, it's enough of a challenge just to keep myself safe amoung all the uncontrolled variables out there.
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On the rare chance that said cyclists or riders are actually going the correct direction on that side of the road/street they are usually on the sidewalk . . . which slows them down a bit. Plus, they are usually on Wal-Mart BSO's which slows them down a bit more.
The vast majority of the time, however, they are Salmon so avoiding a head-on is my top priority!
The one exception on my 400+ commutes was a nice guy on a Cannondale and were the same speed so we just rode along and talked. I've experienced nothing competitive but maybe, one day, where there are more cyclists on my commute route it could happen.
Until then, it's enough of a challenge just to keep myself safe amoung all the uncontrolled variables out there.
Rick / OCRR
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On the straights here I usually cruise between 20-22 mph, if someone can pass me at that speed and continue to pull away so I don't have to worry about them again, then great. I just hate it when someone makes a 25 mph effort to pass me, then gas right after so I have to play leap frog with them.
I REALLY hate it when I end up being passed because the other (slower) cyclist decided to shoal and run a red light. So I end up passing the same person over and over again because of their inability to follow road laws.
I REALLY hate it when I end up being passed because the other (slower) cyclist decided to shoal and run a red light. So I end up passing the same person over and over again because of their inability to follow road laws.
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I care quite a bit. It's been months since I've been passed. I'm not sure when it last happened. I ride a lot of oddball hours because I work nights so that's probably part of it. I wish there were more competitive cyclists out when I ride. I don't mind losing but competition is nice. Or even a wheel.
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I ride in a “sorta kit” (clipless pedals, Lycra shorts, but a loose, short sleeve shirt and sleeveless cycling vest in summer; tights and cycling jacket in winter) on a high end carbon fiber bike. When I’m passed I think to myself, “I’m probably older, definitely heavier than you, and I have a fractured sacrum and lost significant upper thigh muscle in a cycling accident, so don’t gloat.”
Especially to a gruff “on your left.”
Especially to a gruff “on your left.”
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The only time i try to pass someone is if they are salmoning and on the sidewalk (opposite side of the street, going the same way I am). The place where this hallens...there's a freaking bike lane right there. Dang college kids
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I just finished Just Ride by Grant Petersen. He says use whatever metric you can think of that shows you to be a winner.
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Every morning under this one street light, no matter how hard I peddle...my shadow always passes me. The little jerk!
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On the straights here I usually cruise between 20-22 mph, if someone can pass me at that speed and continue to pull away so I don't have to worry about them again, then great. I just hate it when someone makes a 25 mph effort to pass me, then gas right after so I have to play leap frog with them.
I REALLY hate it when I end up being passed because the other (slower) cyclist decided to shoal and run a red light. So I end up passing the same person over and over again because of their inability to follow road laws.
I REALLY hate it when I end up being passed because the other (slower) cyclist decided to shoal and run a red light. So I end up passing the same person over and over again because of their inability to follow road laws.
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I see this quite a bit surprisingly, and the worst part is that there is a bike lane on each side of the street to use. Still see them rolling up the sidewalk going the wrong way. What is even worse is when they go the wrong way in the bike lane, heading towards you. Must something about college campuses and a lack of common sense.
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I don't care if your sitting on the handlebars doing a wheelie with one hand,knitting with the other,with your legs crossed on one pedal...and passing me...
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I'm definitely taking primary on the road. Or I'm using this. It's now technically illegal for cyclist to use the road where a "cycle track" is available.
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The OP said he didn't care... then he promptly indicated that he was happy when he passed an e-bike. Most e-bikes are limited to 20 mph with assist in the U.S., 15 mph in Europe. If you're on the flats or downhill... that's not much of an accomplishment. If you're riding uphill, then you should be proud... not that you passed someone, but that you can ride that fast. 20 mph uphill is impressive.
If you're competitive and you are trying to pass someone, it might give you a little smile to get past another rider... however, it's entirely possible that the rider will pass you shortly after your own pass if you can't maintain or the rider is just faster than you... and doesn't like being passed. Most of the time it's not a big deal to me either way. However, if I'm on my road bike and I pass a guy that's 20-30 years younger than me riding a bmx bike... he's never going to catch me unless I have a heart attack.
If you're competitive and you are trying to pass someone, it might give you a little smile to get past another rider... however, it's entirely possible that the rider will pass you shortly after your own pass if you can't maintain or the rider is just faster than you... and doesn't like being passed. Most of the time it's not a big deal to me either way. However, if I'm on my road bike and I pass a guy that's 20-30 years younger than me riding a bmx bike... he's never going to catch me unless I have a heart attack.
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In 15 months of commuting, I have seen exactly 2 other people on bicycles...They were both going the opposite direction from me, so no thrill in passing them.
I have to be satisfied with taking off from stop lights a bit faster than cars until the get up speed and pass me again.
I have to be satisfied with taking off from stop lights a bit faster than cars until the get up speed and pass me again.
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I started commuting on a MTB w knobby tires and got passed a lot, I upgraded to slicks and got passed less, I upgraded to a modern hydrid w 700c wheels and got passed less, I upgraded tires, saddle and swapped in drop bars and got passed less, I upgraded to road bikes and finally ditched all but a few. hmmm, yeah I don't care about getting passed
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This was true for me too up until last weekend.
I'm riding around downtown, pass a guy, then get stopped at the next light and he catches up. We BS for a bit, ride about 1/4 a mile together, then go our different ways.
Was pleasant and was actually the first time I encountered another road biker in the wild AND got to stop and chat.
About half an hour later he passes me as I'm fumblin through my phone on an empty road picking a new song to listen to.
I laughed to myself. Finally got passed!
I'm riding around downtown, pass a guy, then get stopped at the next light and he catches up. We BS for a bit, ride about 1/4 a mile together, then go our different ways.
Was pleasant and was actually the first time I encountered another road biker in the wild AND got to stop and chat.
About half an hour later he passes me as I'm fumblin through my phone on an empty road picking a new song to listen to.
I laughed to myself. Finally got passed!
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Worrying about whether you get passed or don't get passed is generally something I think is silly. You don't know if that person is doing 5 miles or 80, where they are in that 80 mile ride, whether their legs are blown from doing intervals the day before, if they're an injured runner doing rehab, if you caught them in the rest period of their interval, if they blew by you during the work set of an interval, etc etc.
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I get passed more often than I pass others. The best one was a couple of months ago. There were four Roadies riding in front of me when I turned onto the street. I caught the last one in the group and passed him. When we all to to the light, I saw that all of them were in their mid twenties. They saw me, a 65 year old fat guy on a hybrid. When the light turned green, I left first because they were all busy giving that last rider the business.