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Old 01-22-15, 10:43 AM
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Originally Posted by playback2004
Bro, do you know where I can get that shirt?
Tattoo Golf (Tattoo Golf Clothing - Golf Shirts, Golf Shorts & Golf Accessories) And yes, I do wear similar on the golf course as well as while riding. Polo shirts and casual shorts or slacks are my preferred attire on the course, and most modern golf clothing can easily pull double duty on the bike. I am much more at home in simple greys and blacks, however the needling of a spandojersey friend prompted my purchase of the pictured brightly colored polo for riding. (I suffer my friend's cycling exuberance as I am sure it is just a phase to be grown through) If I were given to cycling specific clothing, I suppose Fox would be my first choice.

I am currently toying with the idea of a combo golf pushcart/bike trailer that could be towed to the course then unhitched and pushed through a round.

Wait... Will people think I am a homeless golfer?
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What if you DO own the place?
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argh its $85. I found one on ebay for $60 though
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Originally Posted by grolby
Did you miss the part where I mentioned that there are in fact alternatives that look more like normal street clothes, that they are getting rave reviews and they are increasingly available?

I don't really see how it's much of a criticism to say that the cycling enthusiast community is fashion conscious; every niche has it's own notion of style. Thing is, you're not necessarily going to find much outside the norm in an LBS because they can only really afford to stock things they know will sell. And standard cycling clothing sells pretty reliably. Maybe the Giro stuff would, too, I don't know. I would recommend hitting up your local REI or shopping online if you want cycling clothes that look less like cycling clothes.
That's my point, it may be out there, but nobody stocks it, and buying on line is nearly impossible as sizes are so far off.
My criticism of cycling "fashion" is that its expensive, and for our budget I would prefer gear I can also use when not cycling.
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Originally Posted by grolby
I wouldn't be caught dead in any of those. I disagree, there's room for taste in cycling kit, though of course taste means something a little different when it comes to tight-fitting cycling clothing. It does stand out a bit less these days than it used, since the current style is for everything we wear to be somewhat tighter-fitting, and the current trend in cycling clothing is toward more subtle colors and patterns.
The two jerseys I wear the most (and I don't wear jerseys that much anyway) are solid colored. I do have one design from Primal that I wear now and then. I would wear it more but it get's too warm.

I've never cared much for the jerseys that are splattered with logos but some look OK. However, I do have a soft spot for fun and colorful designs. If the cycling world has been scared away from that, then it's a shame. I've often wondered why a design that would be perfectly acceptable on a T-shirt is somehow seen as too obnoxious when it's on a cycling jersey.

There is room for taste. There should also be room for fun.

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Originally Posted by kickstart
That's my point, it may be out there, but nobody stocks it, and buying on line is nearly impossible as sizes are so far off.
My criticism of cycling "fashion" is that its expensive, and for our budget I would prefer gear I can also use when not cycling.
What is "our budget?"
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Originally Posted by kickstart
That's my point, it may be out there, but nobody stocks it, and buying on line is nearly impossible as sizes are so far off.
My criticism of cycling "fashion" is that its expensive, and for our budget I would prefer gear I can also use when not cycling.
Try Walmart, Target or in fact your closet. Plenty stuffs there you can wear to ride the bicycle. The world won't end. People have been doing that since the invention of the bicycle. Report back.
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Originally Posted by alan s
I think what you wear has more to do with your weight, than anything else. If you are fat, tight lycra looks really bad and accentuates your hideous body. OTOH, if you are in great shape, lycra makes you look hot for the ladies.
I highly doubt that majority of women are impressed with or attracted to guys who wear spandex, shave their bodies all in the name of cycling and make themselves look like twinks.
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Originally Posted by wolfchild
I highly doubt that majority of women are impressed with or attracted to guys who wear spandex, shave their bodies all in the name of cycling and make themselves look like twinks.
Nope.... not that they should be trying anyways. Unless it's one of those Tweed Rides I've heard so much about.

...and the twink thing doesn't even do it for the set of men into that. To quote a friend of mine "is that a DIAPER?? Oh, honey, no..."
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Originally Posted by hyhuu
Try Walmart, Target or in fact your closet. Plenty stuffs there you can wear to ride the bicycle. The world won't end. People have been doing that since the invention of the bicycle. Report back.
Most of what I wear is either work clothing or outdoor wear, but it sometimes lacks the little details that work best when cycling.
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Originally Posted by alan s
What is "our budget?"
Its not a set limitation, as I'm willing to pay for quality, but when I buy expensive clothing I would prefer that its not limited in usage.
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Originally Posted by wolfchild
I highly doubt that majority of women are impressed with or attracted to guys who wear spandex, shave their bodies all in the name of cycling and make themselves look like twinks.
Don't shave, and I doubt I'd be confused with a twink, but even if only 10% of women like men in spandex, well... it's a number I could work with. How many women does one really need?

Of course you'd have to consider that I'm a 50 year old married guy with two kids. That might reduce the numbers significantly. Probably also why I don't really worry about it.

Even for those that do care, unless you wear spandex a lot more often than when you're just on or near a bike, I doubt it matters one little bit one way or the other. I'm starting to think that cyclists can be an insecure lot that worries way too much about what the rest of the world thinks.

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Originally Posted by cobrabyte
lol there's nothing masculine about spandex (call it lycra if it makes you feel better). It's a good, functional material for cycling clothing, and has it's benefits...but even if you look good, you look bad. And let's face it, a cyclists body isn't really the standard for men; frail upper body, disproportionality large thighs, shaved legs.
That's not really the standard for recreational cyclists who aren't riding 20+ hrs/wk either. Most people, women included, will find fit cyclists more attractive than the average american overweight male.
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Originally Posted by cobrabyte
lol there's nothing masculine about spandex (call it lycra if it makes you feel better). It's a good, functional material for cycling clothing, and has it's benefits...but even if you look good, you look bad. And let's face it, a cyclists body isn't really the standard for men; frail upper body, disproportionality large thighs, shaved legs.
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That's not really the standard for recreational cyclists who aren't riding 20+ hrs/wk either. Most people, women included, will find fit cyclists more attractive than the average american overweight male.
Right, and it only applies to a subset of those riding 20+ hours a week. Elite triathletes tend to have well developed upper bodies.

But most of us don't fall into those categories and I'm guessing a good many don't shave their legs even if they do wear cycling shorts. It's also unlikely that spandex (or the lack of it) is the key factor in some woman deciding whether or not to flirt with you whilst on your commute.

However, if you think about it, a woman is more apt to notice you if you're wearing a jersey picturing a giant red M&M. Maybe 90% of women would think "eew", but if 10% thought "Wow, that M&M dude is hot.", you are way ahead of where you would be if you just blended into the crowd.



Some of you may disagree, but I think I'm on pretty solid ground with that argument.

I would guess that if any of you men wore the above jersey on your commute, within a week some woman would tell you how much she liked it. But hey, if you want to stick with a plaid shirt topped by a hi-viz vest, - by all means.

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Old 01-22-15, 10:40 PM
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Originally Posted by tjspiel
Right, and it only applies to a subset of those riding 20+ hours a week. Elite triathletes tend to have well developed upper bodies.

But most of us don't fall into those categories and I'm guessing a good many don't shave their legs even if they do wear cycling shorts. I also think don't that spandex (or the lack of it) is the key factor in some woman deciding whether or not to flirt with you whilst on your commute.

However, if you think about it, a woman is more likely to notice you if you're wearing a jersey picturing a giant red M&M. Maybe 90% of women would think "eew", but if 10% thought "Wow, that M&M dude is hot.", you are way ahead of where you would be if you just blended into the crowd

Some of you may disagree, but I think I'm on pretty solid ground with that argument.
Dude, of course you're going to make the ladies drool with that jersey. Women love chocolate.

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That's not really the standard for recreational cyclists who aren't riding 20+ hrs/wk either. Most people, women included, will find fit cyclists more attractive than the average american overweight male.
Hey, buddy, I don't know what they teach in those Canadian schools but America(n) is spelled with a capitol A - or ideally with all caps and multiple exclamation points, like this; AMERICA!!!!!!!
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Originally Posted by Giant Doofus
I don't choose my gear for the purpose of making an impression, but I also don't fool myself that it doesn't. For people who don't know bikes, the beautiful red city bike with the clearly middle-class lady in a dress and heels communicates someone who has chosen her mode of transportation. For people who do know bikes, the dyno hub, IGH, B&M lighting, and Ortlieb panniers communicate the same. The high vis vest and mirror, on the other hand, scream "FRED!" to one and all
I've been a Fred for a long time. 47 years. That's when I started wearing a high vis vest. I used to wear it home from evening club races. A mirror for the past 25 (in part because looking over my shoulder is a lot harder after multiple wrecked shoulders). I'll settle for being a living Fred. Better than a dead Ben.

My latest score is the new hi vis Mavic winter jersey, construction orange with big silver reflecting stripes. Fred goes for a high quality jersey.

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Originally Posted by gregf83
That's not really the standard for recreational cyclists who aren't riding 20+ hrs/wk either. Most people, women included, will find fit cyclists more attractive than the average american overweight male.



Originally Posted by cobrabyte
Hey, buddy, I don't know what they teach in those Canadian schools but America(n) is spelled with a capitol A - or ideally with all caps and multiple exclamation points, like this; AMERICA!!!!!!!
gregf83 may well have been including Canadians and Mexicans, all citizens of North America and hence americans. Maybe Central America and South America as well. I know, that concept isn't taught in American schools but may well be in american schools.

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Originally Posted by gregf83
That's not really the standard for recreational cyclists who aren't riding 20+ hrs/wk either. Most people, women included, will find fit cyclists more attractive than the average american overweight male.

gregf83 may well have been including Canadians and Mexicans, all citizens of North America and hence americans. Maybe Central America and South America as well. I know, that concept isn't taught in American schools but may well be in american schools.

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How do you know I wasn't, too, including all "Americans" in my reply? A bit presumptuous of you, Ben. Incidentally, America (more properly "the Americas" when referring to the continental land masses) would still be capitalized in any case. I'll give you an "A" for effort, though
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Originally Posted by cobrabyte
How politically incorrect of me. When stereotyping fat Americans, I'm sure he meant to include Canadians, Mexicans, Guatemalans, Venezuelans, Brazilians and Costa Ricans. Possibly Easter Islanders, too. Thanks for clearing that up, Ben. Incidentally, America (more properly "the Americas" when referring to the continental land masses) would still be capitalized in any case. I'll give you an "A" for effort, though
You guys are obviously deeper thinkers than me; I was just too lazy to correct my spelling. No shortage of fat Canadians though...
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Originally Posted by gregf83
You guys are obviously deeper thinkers than me; I was just too lazy to correct my spelling. No shortage of fat Canadians though...
Is there something wrong with fat people? And you know, laziness is a leading cause of obesity so don't let it get out of hand

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Is there something wrong with fat people?
They don't look good in Spandex!
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Originally Posted by gregf83
They don't look good in Spandex!
Look at your own risk.
Fat Guys in Spandex Pics.
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They don't look good in Spandex!
we've already established that no one looks good in spandex so it's a moot point lol
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Originally Posted by cobrabyte
we've already established that no one looks good in spandex so it's a moot point lol
Next moot factoids to disestablish are:
1. All bicyclists are "fit" honey-attracting specimens;

2. The only people from [name your favorite slothful stereotyped target group] who are not fat, obese, and lazy are those who ride a bicycle. Those clever individuals are all "fit", see factoid 1.
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Originally Posted by I-Like-To-Bike
Next moot factoids to disestablish are:
1. All bicyclists are "fit" honey-attracting specimens;

2. The only people from [name your favorite slothful stereotyped target group] who are not fat, obese, and lazy are those who ride a bicycle. Those clever individuals are all "fit", see factoid 1.
No, obviously there's no correlation between cyclists who don't wear spandex and fitness because they are lazy sloths who don't ride hard enough to call it exercise. As for the cyclists who do wear spandex, some are fit and the others will be soon.
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