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    Capital Cross (Reston, VA)

    1. Who's going? Mike, you know you want to.

    2. Any course descriptions? Is this another Kelley Acres? or more like Rockburn or DCCX?

    3. Will you think less of me if I get misty, just a bit, when it's over. I am totally hooked on this, and I'm way at the back of the pack (although at least not as far back as I was at Ed Sander).
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    ill be there

    the course is closer to tacchino than those other races. It can be very tough with a long run up, a scary rutted steep off camber turn, steep kicker climb, and a longer grinding climb.

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    I'm gonna see how my PT goes this week before I decide on this race. Yes, I suck, I know.
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    I'm in. That's just around the corner from my house, so I even get to sleep in (sort of).

    I haven't ridden the course, but have ridden all of the terrain that the course encompasses. Tacchino or DCCX are probably the closest for comparison.

    Course map here:
    http://www.potomacvelo.com/events/cc...map%20copy.jpg

    From the start, the first looping bit is on a slight hill side, so some of it will be off camber. The approach to pit 1 is uphill, and as you pass pit 1, you climb up onto the dam. Cross the dam is flat, but can be very windy. After the dam, you climb into the woods, I think this is mostly double-track, with a few short steep bits (should all be rideable). Back into the open, below the dam, skirting the woods. Mostly flat past pit 2. Past the restrooms is mostly flat, loop around a gravel parking lot (not sure if any of the course is in the gravel). Unless I've forgotten, I don't think there is any sand pit.

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    they block off the section going into the woods to make it the long run up after you cross the dam. the section pass pit 1 leading up to the dam is a grinding climb. After the straight section in the woods on the lower left of the map you make the left turn thats very steep, rutted, and off camber. Its the hardest part of the course and probably the hardest off camber turn in the district. The hairpin turn off it is also off camber and goes from dirt to road and can be slippery and a good place to roll tires. It continues down hill into the right turn that is very fast. Its all flat and fast past there until you pass the section parallel to the start line. After you make a right turn on a road you make a left up a super steep but short climb. The climb is similar to the climb past the start line at DCCX except its a little longer and maybe a tad steeped. After that you have some sweepy fast turns and a quick downhill section leading you to the final grass sections.

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    I'll be there.

    Stitching up my rear tubular from yesterday's puncture at MABRA championships Hopefully I'll be racing on tubs. Don't feel like gluing a fresh tubular for one race.
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    I'm pre-reg'd for it, but I don't know if I want to race. I haven't been feeling it for the past couple of races, and flatting my front tubular yesterday was the icing on the cake. If Stan's can't fix it, then I may just call it a season... I'll be there regardless to cheer/heckle.

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    Don't be so bitter, Ken. Screaming, off camber, rutted, turning descents love you, man.

    Slap on some clinchers and come crash out with the rest of us.

    (And how the heck did you flat in all that mud and squishy grass?)
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    there was enough gravel to puncture a wheel.

    ken, have you located the puncture yet? Is it by chance the same wheel that you accidentally unscrewed the valve?

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    It was the same wheel that I unscrewed the valve tip from, but it looks pretty secure now. I couldn't find any obvious cuts or punctures, so I'm hoping it's something small. I just picked up some Tufo Extreme sealant on the recommendation of a wrench at the LBS near my office - he said it's better at repairs then Stan's... I'm crossing my fingers.

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    I flatted on the back straight gravel/hard packed road. A sharp rock sliced a long slit in the tube, sealant made a huge mess of things. The tub is tore down and sewed back up; waiting on the glue to dry. I'm worried about my base tape glue job. I'm going to try to roll the tire off this week.
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    Weather report is rain thru Thursday, then clear and darn cold. Could be ice/frost on the course, especially for the C race.

    http://www.weathercentral.com/weathe...va_reston.html
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    there was ice on the course last year and the off camber was almost a sheet of ice for the c race

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    I'm wearing BMX pads.
    “Courage is going from failure to failure without losing enthusiasm." (Churchill)

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    At least it won't be cold enough to freeze over.

    And what a difference a couple of hours make. Not that my legs have stopped cursing me, I thinking I want to race again... Damn this sport...I wish I could quit you.

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    You did get pimped a little. When I first saw the course, I thought "Well, Ken will like this, it's flat, it's like Hyattsville."
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    I'm doing it.. first race (not just cross, first overall).. really nervous. I'm in the u19 race. I'm confused though - one day passes. The place to get them closes one hour before the race (race is at 9 am) but it says it opens at 8.. um what? Also, anything I should be expecting? I don't have spare wheels or anything.

    Also, is there a lot of running and jumping? I'm an unbelievably slow runner.
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    For the license, just get to the Registration desk by 7:50am and you'll be fine. You're in the first race of the day, so they'll be set up to get you you're number and one-day license.

    Take the time to ride the course at least once, better twice, to get a feel for it. Watch how more experienced riders handle the course. There are places on every course that I would chicken out on, but then I see someone ride it smoothly. At that point, I just try to copy them. Also, I always find the courses more difficult during warm up than in the actual race (when competitive juices take over).

    You're in the Cat4/U19 race with me - some guys are remarkably fast, others remarkably slow (e.g., me). There will be some getting off the bike and running. You'll bump into people, you'll fall over. If you end up getting lapped, just ride to the side to let the speed boys by. Just roll with it and have fun. When you're done, you'll wish there was another race next week.

    As a first race, I think cross is a much better place to start than road races or crits. Everybody is pretty relaxed and encouraging.
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    I usually try to arrive at the event around 7:45, the reg tent is usually open. Get my number pinned and be on course pre-riding around 8. Do a few laps. If I need additional warm-up, I usually move over to pavement/trainer - no point getting the bike all muddy/sandy before the race.

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    Most courses have one set of barriers to run over (some have two or more, but one is the norm). They're about shin/knee height - so you don't really jump them, more like a high step (unless you're really short, then maybe you do jump them).

    Some courses also have a run-up (super steep hill). Reston has one. Depending on length and terrain, you might want to shoulder the bike (remove water bottle cages to make it easier).

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    Quote Originally Posted by SpongeDad View Post
    For the license, just get to the Registration desk by 7:50am and you'll be fine. You're in the first race of the day, so they'll be set up to get you you're number and one-day license.

    Take the time to ride the course at least once, better twice, to get a feel for it. Watch how more experienced riders handle the course. There are places on every course that I would chicken out on, but then I see someone ride it smoothly. At that point, I just try to copy them. Also, I always find the courses more difficult during warm up than in the actual race (when competitive juices take over).

    You're in the Cat4/U19 race with me - some guys are remarkably fast, others remarkably slow (e.g., me). There will be some getting off the bike and running. You'll bump into people, you'll fall over. If you end up getting lapped, just ride to the side to let the speed boys by. Just roll with it and have fun. When you're done, you'll wish there was another race next week.

    As a first race, I think cross is a much better place to start than road races or crits. Everybody is pretty relaxed and encouraging.
    Sounds like fun! Maybe I'll see you there (well I guess I will since you're in the same race.) What parts would you chicken out on? Not specific to reston, but in general?

    Quote Originally Posted by Crack Monkey View Post
    Most courses have one set of barriers to run over (some have two or more, but one is the norm). They're about shin/knee height - so you don't really jump them, more like a high step (unless you're really short, then maybe you do jump them).

    Some courses also have a run-up (super steep hill). Reston has one. Depending on length and terrain, you might want to shoulder the bike (remove water bottle cages to make it easier).
    I already took off the cage. Only one braze on. Secondly, is it perfectly fine to just roll the bike and run? I'm a lot faster like that for some reason.
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    Are they talking about spectators feeding the cyclists? You know, like don't feed the bears?

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    The big chicken moments for me are at the top of a sharp descent with mud or a turn at the bottom. Watching dozens of riders go down these hills convinced my head to just roll with it (I shift my weight back a bit). Also, don't stare at where you think you're going to crash - stare at the point up the course where you want to go.
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    any philly folk going? what kind of a haul is this? doesn't look too far, but how's the traffic? looks like a wicked course
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    It's probably about 170 miles from Philadelphia or one of the western suburbs if you jump on the Blue line

    If you're driving in the morning, it shouldn't be too much of a problem to make it in 3hrs. As you get further into the day, the beltway (495) around DC can get bogged down. At least there's no beach traffic!
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    It's gonna be a lot of fun I think. My bike, though, is now fitted with the "27 1 3/8" tires. I measured them with a dial. They are 29mm wide. They claim on the side to be 37.
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    Are they talking about spectators feeding the cyclists? You know, like don't feed the bears?

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