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    What is the best value tubular for CX?

    I'm going to try tubulars this year in the Seattle area MFG series. The early races seem to be mostly dry and grassy, mid season to late season there has been mud. What would you recommend as an all purpose tubular tire that won't break the bank? <$75 each.


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    If you can pay a bit more I'd go for the PDX. It's a great tire if you only have one set of wheels. Really works well in everything and it's very durable. If that's too much $ then the Grifos would be next best. Not great in the mud but it'll do ok. Can usually find them in that price range too.

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    I like the Tufo Primus as an affordable all-purpose. But note that the mud we have in Florida CX likely bears no resemblance to Seattle mud.

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    Tufo primus flexus is my go-to all conditions tire. I haven't raced in Seattle, but it did grow up around there...it should be a decent full season tire.
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    Raced last season (MFG and SCX) on Challenge tubulars 32 Grifo rear/34 Fango front on my SS and it was awesome. If I can get a rear wheel sorted out for my geared bike I will run the same this season.

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    My sponsor LBS was able to get me Spesh Terra Tubulars for a good enough price. Thanks for all the replies.


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    I know OP has already addressed this, but for others who might click on this topic... You can get Clements or Challenge in the $100 range. More than the $75, OP as looking to spend, but you are probably going to have the tubulars 3-5 years assuming you don't have a catastrophic event with them. That's $5-$8 difference per year. If it is at all possible go with the tires you want. Changing tubulars is a much harder process than switching clinchers. Get what you want the first time around, it is cheaper in the long run.

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    and once you get started you're going to need more hunt up used tubular wheels for cheap. I scored some FMB SSCs for half price. They are a pretty good all around tire, but they aren't going to cut it once it really gets rainy and muddy around here. Hence the half price Dugast Rhinos. I don't know just got lucky I guess. These two should cover it. If I had only one, I don't know, but around here I'd tend towards mud and then have some clincher speed treads on hand for the early season dry and fast stuff. You can ride higher pressures in those conditions anyways.

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    I found on the road that the best tubies were actually more economical than others. They lasted longer. And were so much better every second of every ride. It was a no-brainer. Sadly I only realized it after I'd neared end of racing days.

    I now race nice Challenges in CX and I wonder if there's economy there, too, thanks to quality. I haven't used up a tire yet. I keep fixing mine. They're so nice they seem like a bargain every time I get the privilege to ride em. I hope things work out in other ways, too. Also I'm pretty sure they move me up a fair ways. I'd bet it's smarter to skimp anywhere else except in tires! Like just drink applejuice+salt or something.
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    I'm now back in the hunt for another tire. Had issues this last weekend and blew out a sidewall. My CX season is likely over anyway so I might wait a month or more and see how much tires get discounted. That said I'm not very happy with the mud performance of the tires I have. Sadly it was the front that popped.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Black wallnut View Post
    I'm now back in the hunt for another tire. Had issues this last weekend and blew out a sidewall. My CX season is likely over anyway so I might wait a month or more and see how much tires get discounted. That said I'm not very happy with the mud performance of the tires I have. Sadly it was the front that popped.
    How bad is the blowout? Have you ever tried booting? If this was a nice tire, I'd do that. I've used a couple layers of duct tape. But preferred is a section of sidewall from a truly dead quality tire.
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    It is about 2" long but there is a wear mark the the whole tire where the brake pad was dragging. An expensive way to reinforce the lesson of always check over ones bike before each ride. The front tire was not seated all the way in the drop outs.


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    I'm a fan of the Challenge tubulars, they're reasonably priced and the poly sidewall doesn't need to be aquasealed. They're also fairly supple and I like the tread patterns... that's personal preference though. If you're going to get just one tubular get a Clement PDX or Challenge Limus.

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