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Old 05-16-16, 10:59 AM   #1
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Took a long distance e-bike ride

Grabbed the spare battery. Parked my van at the end of my ride for a way back, and switched on and rode. There was an organized ride too, but I wasnt part of it. I rode from Akron, OH to Zoarville, OH. About 50 miles. No sooner than I got on the trail, it started to rain! And the rest of the forecast was falling temperatures. I started to give it a second thought and dismissed it with a "what the hell." Bike was great. People were great. A few I talked with knew it was an ebike and others took a while to catch on. I exhausted one battery just before Massillon, OH. It turns out some friends I ride with were the sweep team for the organized ride. I rode with them for a while.

It wasnt as muddy as I expected. I didnt hear of any crashes like last year. However the boardwalks over the swampy areas were slippery.

My second battery died as I was riding back to my van, so I had to pedal 3 miles. No other electrical problems in the wet.

All in all a good day on a Sondors fat tire bike.

I'll post some pics later.

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Old 05-16-16, 12:11 PM   #2
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That's great, So how much assist did you use to use up two batteries? What size batteries? How was the non assisted ride part?
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Old 05-16-16, 01:22 PM   #3
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I took a "mid-distance" ride on my e-bike the other day. 37 miles. I started with a full battery. I still had 3 of 8 bars showing when I finished. I probably had about 30 percent battery left. 80 percent of the ride was level 2 assist. 15 percent level 3 assist. 5 percent was level 4 assist (on a couple of longer "hills.") The ride was very enjoyable. It felt like I was putting forth the same level of effort on level 2 assist as I would on my carbon fiber road bike... but I was riding about 2-3 mph faster on the e-bike.

I have never ridden far enough to completely discharge my battery. I would imagine that my mileage limit would be somewhere near 50 miles riding the way that I did on my last ride. Bionx states that the range is "up to" 80 miles. That might be true on level 1 assist, on level ground, and a rider that is 70-80 lbs lighter than I am.
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Old 05-16-16, 02:11 PM   #4
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I decided to ride my eMTB to the trailhead, do my local loop and ride back to my house yesterday. This is the longest MTB ride I have completed. Used level 3 on the flats and level 5 on the climbs (1-5 levels). Total ride was a few tenths under 30 miles. At about 2 miles from home on the flats I bumped it up to level 4, but the display starting blinking, so I went back down to level 3 and display was good. I take this as a maxed out eMTB road/off-road ride and the blinking display as telling me at level 4 on those last two miles I probably would have drained it, but at level 3 it had enough to get me home.

A 30 mile half road / half mountain ain't bad for a <400Wh battery!

Oh yeah, I passed 3 Sondors on the trail. Unfortunately all where stopped talking to others, so I didn't get to see and compare their climbing ability.

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Took a short distance ride (18 miles, 700' of climbing) on a Faraday Porteur S city bike (43V, 6 a/h battery = 250 w/h). Two levels of assist and, of course, pedal only. Kept at level 1 or 2 for most of the ride except downhill portion (nice and stable at 32 mph). Easy to maintain at 18 mph in Level 1 and 20 in 2 with a 180 pound rider, flat ground, 5 mph or so headwind. Battery still pulling at end of ride, but must have been close to empty.

!8 miles, 3000'+ off road on BBS02, 52V, 10 a/h battery seemed almost depleted (hard to tell since battery indicator is for 48V system). Rode level 4 of 9 a lot of the trail.

Friend on Bosch (36V, 11 a/h) used about 60 % (three lights of five) on same ride, but his weight with bike is about 190 pounds, mine about 230.
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The ride was very enjoyable. It felt like I was putting forth the same level of effort on level 2 assist as I would on my carbon fiber road bike... but I was riding about 2-3 mph faster on the e-bike.
My great irony, is that I work out harder on the ebike. Normally on a ride, I put out 200-250 watts, on the ebike I'm physically doing 250-300 watts. I think once I get over 25mph on a race bike, I've conditioned myself to literally act like I am in a race. Drafting, or ebike, my legs don't know the difference. I need to slow down!
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Whenever I start to get the feeling that I am putting out the same amount of effort at a given speed, but am going 2 to 3 MPH faster only because the motor is helping for that 2 to 3 MPH extra, I turn off the motor... And surprise surprise, I end up slowing down 4 or even 5 MPH... So, I suspect I am actually putting in less effort than I think I am...
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That's great, So how much assist did you use to use up two batteries? What size batteries? How was the non assisted ride part?
Batteries are stock 8.8 connected to a 350w hub.

Assist goes from 0-5. Most of the time it was on 2 or 3. A little bit of 4 and 5 for uphills.

The fat tires take a LOT of energy to keep rolling. Its not easy when its a fixed gear set-up.

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Whenever I start to get the feeling that I am putting out the same amount of effort at a given speed, but am going 2 to 3 MPH faster only because the motor is helping for that 2 to 3 MPH extra, I turn off the motor... And surprise surprise, I end up slowing down 4 or even 5 MPH... So, I suspect I am actually putting in less effort than I think I am...
15 mph on the e-bike with the motor off takes quite a lot of effort. 15 mph on my carbon road bike isn't really that difficult (I usually average 15+ mph on rides of 25-40 miles on by carbon road bike.) The difference is the weight of the bikes... carbon road bike is about 18 lbs; e-bike is about 50 lbs (more like 60 lbs with the loaded pannier that never seems to leave the e-bike.)
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