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Old 06-06-07, 03:07 PM   #1
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Electric Bike Gallery

We don't have a "Show us your e-bike" thread yet, so I'm starting one.

A Giant Lite with an XtraCycle kit.




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Old 06-06-07, 04:29 PM   #2
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Nice bikes! I've been admiring your Giant Lite Xtracycle for a while now. How does it handle the weight of grocery runs?
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It does quite well with groceries. The handling does change, the front end gets light and starting off can be tricky (once under way no problem) but only after I start loading 50 lbs bags of dog food on top.
This load is normal for me.

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Old 06-06-07, 08:03 PM   #4
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Me eBike is a Gary Fisher x-Caliber model year 2001, you know... those Genesis frame bikes. Serves as a commuter and medium duty off-roader. Electric power is from a Bionx PL350 (350W , 36V Li-Ion).







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I was given an old electric scooter so I modified it and mounted it to a child hauling tandem trailer. This allows any bike to become an electric bike by just attaching the trailer to the seat post of the bike and attaching the throttle to the handlebar.

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Old 06-07-07, 10:19 AM   #6
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My Mom's new eBike:





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Old 06-09-07, 08:21 PM   #7
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Your bike is very nice, quite similar to what I hope to have eventually. Now I can see that your speeds are more impressive on knobbies!

I have always wondered about the Bionx "battery in a rear bag" option. Could you please post more photos of it? Perhaps you could show the wiring connectors and electronics in the bag and how it attaches to the rack? Does you mother like this battery option?
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Here is something i tossed together for thrills. Goes over 60mph and runs at 48v for about 2 hours. Really depends on how fast your going and such. heres a vid on google
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1416298129233098793&q=neukin


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nice i like it. but i think i would get pulled over down here. with that setup
my max speed was 56.4mph.

looks cool.
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Here is something i tossed together for thrills. Goes over 60mph and runs at 48v for about 2 hours. Really depends on how fast your going and such. heres a vid on google
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1416298129233098793&q=neukin


wow that is pretty cool!
would you show a drive side picture?
what kind of speed controller is that?
what is a half switch?
Thanks
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its a currie system with a geared motor. with 24volt controller. it works with 48volts it gets warm but not hot.
i mounted controller on the outside of the bike.

the motor has lots of Torque if put the front brake on and lean forward i can spin the tire till it smokes. makes for a good laugh

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hJqVRO5zUkA

http://www.electric-bikes.com/prodri...nversion%20Kit

http://www.electric-bikes.com/currie10.htm#currie17
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Old 06-12-07, 01:51 PM   #12
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Its direct drive so not much to see, wish i had gears. Its a golf cart controller.

56mph is pretty fast for the setup you have there. The motor i have on the bike is a perm motor good for about 6hp at 48v so if you could change gears lol well lets just guess. The motor is good for 72v but id need two more bats and a new controller. Cool to see other setups out there.
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Its direct drive so not much to see, wish i had gears. Its a golf cart controller.

56mph is pretty fast for the setup you have there. The motor i have on the bike is a perm motor good for about 6hp at 48v so if you could change gears lol well lets just guess. The motor is good for 72v but id need two more bats and a new controller. Cool to see other setups out there.
Thanks, just wanted to see the front sprocket maybe it is locally found in my area, where can i get some more information on the motor (cost and who sells them)
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This should be renamed "dangerously underbuilt electric motorcycle gallery" I mean WTF, perm132 over 20 times the legal limit... Gimmie a break that's not even remotely close to an electric bicycle.

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Old 06-13-07, 05:28 PM   #15
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This should be renamed "dangerously underbuilt electric motorcycle gallery" I mean WTF, perm132 over 20 times the legal limit... Gimmie a break that's not even remotely close to an electric bicycle.
Think of them in the context of Darwin's Theory Of Natural Selection.
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This should be renamed "dangerously underbuilt electric motorcycle gallery" I mean WTF, perm132 over 20 times the legal limit... Gimmie a break that's not even remotely close to an electric bicycle.
No dude this **** is fantastic. Those are the guys who are pushing the high end of the technology and are doing it from their basements.
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No dude this **** is fantastic. Those are the guys who are pushing the high end of the technology and are doing it from their basements.

For real.

Question: Why aren't there any manufacturers building motorcycles with engines capable of freeway speeds complete with braking and lighting systems to match?


Answer: The big three. The oil industry. GW.
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This should be renamed "dangerously underbuilt electric motorcycle gallery" I mean WTF, perm132 over 20 times the legal limit... Gimmie a break that's not even remotely close to an electric bicycle.
Well this thread sure won't be renamed "Jean Coutu's rant against electric bikes" that's for sure.
And I still see bicycles there, illegal as they may be, they sure don't qualify as "electric motorcycles" either!
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How exactly have I ranted against electric bicycles? Have had one myself, the next one is in pretty much planned out and slowly coming together... I also sing their praises to whoever wants to listen... It would seem highly unlikely I'd be ranting against them.

But I'll defend them against presenting electric motorcycles as being electric bicycles so as to avoid things like registration and the extensive modifications they would need before being allowed on roads. A half assed motorcycle does not an electric bicycle make... There are different terms used to describe different categories of vehicles, and when one starts calling pretty much anything a bicycle, it goes against the purpose of having different names to describe these realities. It's about as absurd as calling every fruit a banana. Allow me to demonstrate:

The Jackalope is slower then that Perm132 last "electric bicycle" in this thread. It also has no usable pedals, but then we've already established that it's fine if It "assists" the energy input used to turn the throttle! Hey, looks like it's got everything to make it an "electric bicycle"! One that eats up 50cc limited speed motorcycles too! Joy! Motorcyclez suckz0rz!







Or how about this "electric bicycle", home made & all, it's driven by an Etek that's even less powerful then the Perm132 powered "electric bicycle" earlier in this thread, nor does it have vestigial pedals etc... But hey since the last ones were fine as "electric bicycles" and this one's even slower, then surely it's one too! Yeah, take that big oil! "Electric bicycles" FTW!







Electric motorcycles have poor range and are expensive to purchase, they also cost more then a conventional motorcycle to keep running. Yes, you can get a converted electric motorcycle from some shops, EG: http://www.electricmotorsport.com/ But my guess it big players won't waste their time with that since few people would be interested to buy one... Peugeot tried their hand with the Scoot'elec, and ate dirt...



So here's another home grown "electric bicycle"! Lithium-iron powered, bleeding edge experimental technology as showed off at make faire. Again fits in all requirements to be thought of as an "electric bicycle"! Yay! These guys are really advancing "electric bicycle" technology for sure!







Afteral, only losers get their home built electric motorcycles registered, smart people just ride their vehicle illegally so they don't have to go through that pesky registration, calling it an "electric bicycle" with a wink, until they get ebikes outlawed where they live (re: Randy/Maui) or get a criminal citation for it (Matt in Florida)...



But seriously, none of these are even close to being electric bicycles, there's little chance of registering them as mopeds either, and most blow by limited speed motorcycle territory...
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Here is something i tossed together for thrills. Goes over 60mph and runs at 48v for about 2 hours. Really depends on how fast your going and such. heres a vid on google
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1416298129233098793&q=neukin
That's quite a screamer. You may need a motorcycle helmet at those speeds.

It's blurring the lines between an electric bike and an electric motorcycle (with pedal assist). To me an e-bike is a human and electric hybrid bike where the human portion can contribute at least 20-25% of the power (enough to make a significant impact). But everybody has different ideas on where an ebike stops becoming a bicycle.
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Over three fold the legal speed max... No human input...


Look! Bananas!

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Well this thread sure won't be renamed "Jean Coutu's rant against electric bikes" that's for sure.
And I still see bicycles there, illegal as they may be, they sure don't qualify as "electric motorcycles" either!
That is not a bicycle in post 8.

The last photo in post 19 makes my eyes hurt. The proud genius that put what looks to be at least 100lbs or more of lithium-based batteries on a motorcycle, then proceeds to do a donut has really done much to advance this technology for the rest of us.
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Hey, the last two of the three bikes I've shown are honest road legal motorcycles that are registered and all that, sorry to have mislead but they're not calling them ebikes. The first one is for off road use only, but the builder called it a motorcycle.




But I've seen too many vehicles such as this "ebike" who's owner brags of going 46mph on flat land:





Or how about this genius, who brags of reaching over 100kph on his "electric bicycle".





Note how he rides his "bicycle" with motorcyclists rather then with bicyclists...
http://video.google.ca/videoplay?doc...63547099214781



That's just crying out loud to get electric bicycles outlawed.



OK, I shall end my rant now...

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To a certain member that has concerns about freedom to express his opinions:

We are all free to speak (post) our minds here, as long as it's within the spirit of the guidelines. I would hate for someone to tell me to go get stuffed, but worse, I would be disappointed if they were afraid to simply let me know that they don't agree with my viewpoint.

Looking at some of the photos posted here, I'm not seeing what I would consider to be a genuine solution for cyclists that find the need for a secondary power source. But I do see some dangerous and illegal creations. I'd certainly be interested in seeing some more practical ebike solutions though.
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My Giant Cypress was pretty ugly from the get-go.


I added a Wilderness Energy brushless hub and 36volts (my voltometer says 40) of NiCad power. Top speed about 35 km/hr.
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