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Old 06-17-08, 01:00 PM   #1
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E-bikes for lazy people?

Are ebikes for lazy people? Seems like what most people think when they see one or hear about one.
They can be used to make hill climbing easier, offering an unfair advantage against other cyclists who have to pedal using their own muscles unaided. Are ebikes unfair and for lazy people?

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Old 06-17-08, 01:06 PM   #2
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No, of course not. Are TVs only for non-creative people? (well, maybe not a good example) I use one for the steep hills but mostly for carrying loads so I can leave my truck home 90% of the time. I am amazed at the e-bikes that are underpowered and seem to be made to do what anyone could do on a regular bike. If they can't help carry a person up a STEEP hill it is worthless it seems to me.
I would much rather lazy people be on e-bikes than in their cars.
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Old 06-17-08, 01:22 PM   #3
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that's about like saying a regular bike is for cheap people who wont splurge for the electric.

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Old 06-17-08, 01:58 PM   #4
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I commute on an ebike but tour on a touring bike and ride with my wife on our tandem. You don't hammer a nail with a screwdriver.
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E-Bikes are for people who have not yet achieved the stamina/endurance to ride a regular bike... ;-)

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Are ebikes for lazy people? Seems like what most people think when they see one or hear about one.
They can be used to make hill climbing easier, offering an unfair advantage against other cyclists who have to pedal using their own muscles unaided. Are ebikes unfair and for lazy people?

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Answer: no

Case and point: me

I got an ebike 2 years ago right after I quit smoking. I couldn't possibly pedal a bike more than 5kms back then. Now I can do 40kms no sweat, possibly more. I've lost 10 lbs since then as well.

The eBike certainly did help me get back in shape. Now I can ride a regular bike if I want to, and I often transform my eBike back into a regular mountain bike (see my "Transformer bike" thread) in about 3 mins.

I always commute as an eBike though because I don't want to break a sweat just commuting to/from work.

eBikes are not for lazy people. Lazy people don't bike at all! They use cars and SUVs!
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if you're on a bike at all, most likely, you're not lazy.
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My commute is 23 miles to work... one way. I readily ride my commuter to work and back, because I love to ride. Here's my current setup with the kids trailer. (No, I don't take the trailer to work )



However, because of all the miles I do ride, somedays I'm simply too tired and worn out to ride that far. I have been seriously considering an e-bike conversion for my long commute when I don't want to ride my roadie.
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I use mine to haul heavy loads up big hills.
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ya know...i have a regular Kona bike for when we are camping and such. But here in the burb, I LOVE my new ebike. I can get to karate class in 10 minutes (same as in my car). I can get to the library in 10 minutes (same as in my car). I can get to the grocery store in 10 minutes (same as in my car). I can keep up with my 10-year-old tornado (priceless)

I do not think of myself as lazy with the ebike but BLESSED.

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The lazy people are the ones who drive, not considering alternative transportation.

If anything, ebikers are real "go-getters" who take the initiative and find a cleaner way to live, instead of keeping in line with the masses who gain convenience through pollution.

Go ebikes!

Now if I could just find a better way to commute in those -40 degree celsius winters, I'd be set.....
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Old 06-17-08, 05:15 PM   #12
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Now if I could just find a better way to commute in those -40 degree celsius winters, I'd be set.....
How about 90+ degree weather in New Mexico? I will have my California tan in two weeks... CK
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I would say ebikers are innovators. People not afraid to try new alternatives and set new trends. I've come across a few persons at works who think we don't exercise. All ebikers do is ride on the electric motor. To all of them, I've suggested they trade rides just once and ride my bike back to my house (15km-10miles) and I'll bring their car over for them. So far, not one has accepted the challenge.
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How about 90+ degree weather in New Mexico? I will have my California tan in two weeks... CK
Makes me wonder why people in warmer climates aren't innovators in electric transportation, where cold temps aren't a problem (try making an electric vehicle for -40 C).

I'm planning on riding my ebike up to -10 C or so, possibly -15 C if I can insulate everything enough. My ride to work is only 5km. Don't know how the motor will react in those temps but I wanna try it out.

I'll let everyone know how that goes and at what point I chicken out and take my truck this winter. Although a studded rear tire and a ski for the front tire would make a cool ebike when the snow comes!
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If you never pedal your e-bike... then that's a small sign of laziness.
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If you never pedal your e-bike... then that's a small sign of laziness.
Sometimes, if your legs are soar, it's ok to be lazy, since you obviously weren't lazy to begin with. And of course, at least you can be a little lazy, and not pay for gas.
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Are ebikes for lazy people? Seems like what most people think when they see one or hear about one.
They can be used to make hill climbing easier, offering an unfair advantage against other cyclists who have to pedal using their own muscles unaided. Are ebikes unfair and for lazy people?

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The truth is if someone is on a bike unless I know them the information stays in my brain about 10 minutes then is discarded so who cares what I think.
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" E-bikes for lazy people?"
No. I think they are mostly for handicapped people.
I think that under 400 watts, they should be treated just like regular bicycles. Over 400 watts they should be treated as motorcycles. All gas powered bikes, scooters, mopeds should be treated as motorcycles.
A powered wheel chair would be treated as a regular wheel chair as long as it is not capable of exceeding 10mph, if it exceeds 10mph it should be treated as a motorcycle.

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I get called "cheating" more than lazy. For some reason, when people (who don't bike) learn that I ride an electric bike, their first reaction is, "isn't that cheating?" hmmm... I guess it never occured to them that driving a car is a big way to cheat to get to your destination!!
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I get called "cheating" more than lazy. For some reason, when people (who don't bike) learn that I ride an electric bike, their first reaction is, "isn't that cheating?" hmmm... I guess it never occured to them that driving a car is a big way to cheat to get to your destination!!
What I want to know is who am I cheating against?

- I'm not in a race
- I'm not cheating myself

So who am I cheating?
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What I want to know is who am I cheating against?

- I'm not in a race
- I'm not cheating myself

So who am I cheating?
Well... yeah, thing is. What you do is you order them to, "Explain what you mean by cheating."
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If you never pedal your e-bike... then that's a small sign of laziness.
You mean....I'm supposed to pedal....DARN! I thought all the work was putting on my helmet, sunscreen, water bottle....
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" E-bikes for lazy people?"
No. I think they are mostly for handicapped people.
I think that under 400 watts, they should be treated just like regular bicycles. Over 400 watts they should be treated as motorcycles. All gas powered bikes, scooters, mopeds should be treated as motorcycles.
A powered wheel chair would be treated as a regular wheel chair as long as it is not capable of exceeding 10mph, if it exceeds 10mph it should be treated as a motorcycle.
I've changed my feelings on this. All e bikes, motorized bikes and the like should be treated as motor vehicles and be subject to all requirements of a motor vehicle.
Only exception- motorized wheel chairs for the legitimately disabled, and they should be limited to 4mph maximum speed.
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I've changed my feelings on this. All e bikes, motorized bikes and the like should be treated as motor vehicles and be subject to all requirements of a motor vehicle.
Only exception- motorized wheel chairs for the legitimately disabled, and they should be limited to 4mph maximum speed.
And you're wrong.
And just about every lawmaker says you're wrong too.

eBikes are classified differently than mopeds, scooters and so on for a reason. One of which is to encourage the adoption of eBikes as an alternative to cars.
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I've changed my feelings on this. All e bikes, motorized bikes and the like should be treated as motor vehicles and be subject to all requirements of a motor vehicle.
Only exception- motorized wheel chairs for the legitimately disabled, and they should be limited to 4mph maximum speed.
Maddyfish.....you're a prize....LOL
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