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Old 12-12-08, 11:39 PM   #1
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Passed yet Another lycra rider today...

Going uphill. It is a three mile, 1000 foot climb. He had it in a low gear, pumping away furiously. Not sure of the point of spandex at 5 MPH, but Chee Hoo!

3/4 throttle, with moderate pedaling, I passed him like he was standing still. And I'm pedaling upright, with a 20lb backpack, and my bike already weighs 65 lbs.

I can't believe how adding a 10 lb battery and a 10 lb motor to a bike turns it into a 'roid raging tandem beast. It's a shame these things don't catch on so fast.

Chalk another win-win up for the Ebike.
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Old 12-13-08, 08:18 AM   #2
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Not sure of the point of spandex at 5 MPH, but Chee Hoo!
Would you prefer he change for the uphill sections?

I'm not sure of the point of talking about how you pwned a leg powered bike with an ebike? Kinda like me blowing you away on my fj1100, then pointing it out on a message board.

BTW, this is in no way a criticism of ebikes. I think they are an awesome idea and will probably mod one of my bikes into one someday.

But even when I do, I will still wear lycra cycling shorts. No neon racing kit clown suits though.
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Old 12-13-08, 11:39 AM   #3
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Threads and mindsets like this are one of the reasons "regular cyclists" come into this forum to harass you guys. This is a -1 on the win factor to me, to brag about something like this.
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Old 12-13-08, 11:59 AM   #4
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Wow. Just wow.
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Old 12-13-08, 01:42 PM   #5
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I passed a bike while driving my car today....I AM A CYCLING GOD!
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Old 12-13-08, 01:48 PM   #6
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Dammit chip... ya beat me to it.
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Old 12-13-08, 01:51 PM   #7
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Dammit chip... ya beat me to it.
That's cuz you're a loser still manually typing, while I am using speech-to-text.

I have a robot for making whoopie with my wife too...you folks who still do it using physical exertion are so 20th century.
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Old 12-13-08, 02:28 PM   #8
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Brain-computer interface.

Eventually you won't need to speak or even have a robot either
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Old 12-13-08, 04:50 PM   #9
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Well, OP could have been a lot more diplomatic!

That said, I've got both perspectives to a degree and I see his point. There are a few guys I see around during the summer, one guy wears a team T-Mobile cycling vest. Usually he's going faster than me, but a few times I was doing speed work and every time I approach him going faster he kicks it and suddenly we're racing. He just can't let anyone pass him. It is annoying because I try not to let it throw off my pace but I also don't want to be right next to him forever.

It would be satisfying to pass someone like that up.
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Old 12-13-08, 04:59 PM   #10
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That's cuz you're a loser still manually typing, while I am using speech-to-text.

I have a robot for making whoopie with my wife too...you folks who still do it using physical exertion are so 20th century.
I'm happy to be a luddite...
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I might get a little happy or excited when I pass a very experienced and capable cyclist. But I suppose that is as much a compliment towards him as anything else.

Seriously, I don't care if my old granny can go faster than me. And, I don't care if purists disagree with my choice to have an ebike.

I like my ebike, because:
- I'm a fatso that couldn't do the work by myself ( but hope to graduate to a pedal only bike as I get stronger)
- my commute is 1 3/4 hours long at a 14kmh pace...each way. The ebike is the only practical solution for my goal to frequently commute
- and frankly the electric bike fills that desire to have an electric car, so even if I'm riding a regular bike 3-4 times per week, I think I'll keep the ebike, too.
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Old 12-14-08, 08:29 AM   #12
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3/4 throttle, with moderate pedaling, I passed him like he was standing still. And I'm pedaling upright, with a 20lb backpack, and my bike already weighs 65 lbs.

I can't believe how adding a 10 lb battery and a 10 lb motor to a bike turns it into a 'roid raging tandem beast. It's a shame these things don't catch on so fast.
If you want to go fast with no motor and a 20 pound $1000 bike, using tons of effort, people respect you.

If you want to go fast with a cheap 40-pound bike, a medium amount of effort, and a little bitty motor people do not respect you.

If you want to go fast with no effort at all, and a 300horsepower motor, many people respect you.

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Old 12-14-08, 08:36 AM   #13
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Is your wrist sore from torquing your throttle so excitedly?
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Old 12-14-08, 09:10 AM   #14
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I'm happy to be a luddite...
Take your religion to P&R, pal.
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Old 12-14-08, 09:51 AM   #15
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euhhh.. i don't know what this thread is about, but it seems funny
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Old 12-14-08, 12:57 PM   #16
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A few weeks ago I rode on a stretch where a few good riders were. A couple of riders passed me. So I decided to see if I could keep up with them with my electric bike. They were averaging around 22 mph for 6 miles. I kept up with them, but I have to say, they were in great condition to keep up that pace.
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Old 12-14-08, 07:24 PM   #17
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Chipcom. You need to remove your picture before posting such nasty feedback. You are proving ugly is clear through.
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Old 12-17-08, 05:22 PM   #18
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chalk a win up for another poser, who is making all the other e-bikes owners look like losers who don't have the legs to ride up that hill, without help, go back and see if you can make it up that hill without your little helper.. and make it to the top going 5MPH, then you will have the right to say something.. I would love to take you on a nice 60mile ride, you on your e-bike me on my road bike, and see how well you can do, if your e-bike will go that far, BECAUSE I DOUBT YOU CAN...sorry to the legit e-bike users out there, that use the e-bikes for what they are meant for..
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The ebikes really are for quicker commuting. Although they provide more physical conditioning than a car, The main point is to get from point A to point B more quickly and less sweatily than a regular bike and without firing up the ole petrol machine.

...While it's exciting to pass a hardcore cyclist, it's only because we know that they are in great shape. As a previous poster pointed out, it's actually a compliment to the hardcore cyclist. Honestly, I only pass others when they are in the way and not to "win a race." ...That rule applies whether I'm on the ole full pedal power cruiser or on the electric bent. I also try to get out of the way when someone obviously can overtake me.

...However, I did kind of race a guy on his Izip one day. I was mainly trying to keep up because I wanted to ask him questions about his bike.
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Old 12-19-08, 06:36 AM   #20
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Chipcom. You need to remove your picture before posting such nasty feedback. You are proving ugly is clear through.
Guess what you are proving.
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If it's got a motor, you're a motorist on 2 wheels, and no more of a cyclist than the guys on 50cc mopeds used to be. So don't kid yourself.

As for passing someone, it's just as meaningless in your motorized case as it is if it were a real bicycle, because contrary to middle-America misconception and Breaking Away-like movies, not everyone is racing or going flat out all the time.

But what can you expect from a lycra critic who only thinks it has to do with aerodynamics.

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Old 12-19-08, 10:47 AM   #22
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The ebikes really are for quicker commuting.
While ebikes are great for commuting, they certainly have other uses.

Some are purchased in pairs to help a weaker partner keep up the pace. My ebike for more efficient athletic training, by helping me maintain a lower level of effort on days that I plan to ride less intensely. And they are used by people who like to ride a bicycle, but can't practicably do so under their own power. There are also those who ride an ebike because they have lost their driver's license, but I'm willing to put that in the commuting category.

I'm sure we could come up with additional reasons for riding an ebike.
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I am currently saving for a e-bike myself. The reason is. I am interested in getting on my bike and spending the better part of the day on it. I would like to have the ability to get a long way from home and get back when I get tired. I am figuring on having built a long wheelbase recumbent with a 24 volt 500 watt cyclone motor. It will be super comfortble and able to carry 30 amps worth of batteries easy. A little heavy but spead is not the issue here. Just a good way to spend a enjoyable day exploring. Thats what I like about electric bikes.
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Old 12-19-08, 12:17 PM   #24
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see if you can make it up that hill without your little helper.. and make it to the top going 5MPH, then you will have the right to say something..
I guess i have the right to say something then... 400+ miles and 20,000 ft of climbing in a week. Yeah I ride an ebike to work all the time.

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sorry to the legit e-bike users out there, that use the e-bikes for what they are meant for..
What exactly is it meant for.. maybe I've got it all wrong. I can ride to work for 2 weeks for less than the cost of a powerbar while riding in my dockers and dress shoes.

Go muppet go.. I wanna hear this.
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So suppose you've never ridden a bike, at least since you were 6 years old. You wonder, "What should I wear". So you come to a bike forum and ask around. Then you go buy lycra/spandex/whatever. Having passed people in lycra at 10 mph on an uphill, and having passed regular cyclists without lycra at 8 mph, I can assure you it's not hard to do. You've only got to find the right one. Heck, last time, I rode my unicycle out at White Rock Lake, I passed a guy on a bicycle, and his little dog, too.
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