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JOHNJOHNAA 11-26-13 05:21 PM

The m750

JOHNJOHNAA 11-26-13 05:24 PM

What is the price on these batteries and do they come with charger?--thanks--john

kauaikit 11-26-13 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by JOHNJOHNAA (Post 16280945)
What is the price on these batteries and do they come with charger?--thanks--john

It appears you have the non X version which is limited to 19.5mph on turbo. LEVT in Idaho can update the rear hub software @ a cost around $250 to an X version, which will allow unlimited top speed. They charge around $650 to replace the 30 NiMHcells in your front hub and around $250 for the charger + shipping costs.

The lithium battery (46.2v/16Ah 2S2P or 11 4.2 cells) upgrade will cost around $450 + around $50 for a charger.

Your going to want to talk to someone that has done the jumper conversion, and or has actually used the lithium batteries on their TF ebikes. I have 7 TF ebikes.

Where are you located?

fietsbob 11-27-13 02:07 AM

Ah, what's in a Name .. I'd think the Bay Of Fundy tidal force was Better..

JOHNJOHNAA 11-27-13 04:19 PM

Hi i have the m750 but i guess i am going to sale it i don't know enough about them to keep investing money into it i baught it from a friend that baught a storage unit and found this bike in it .it is in realy good condition does not seem to be ridden very mush.but probly paid to mush for it maybe i can trade it for another e-bike im in new mexico. Any offers out there?

powell 11-27-13 06:48 PM

JOHNJOHNAA'
thank you for digging out this 3year old thread.
I bought my TF in JULY 2005.
I got 24,077 kms as of today!!
I use my TF for winter riding mainly, through deep almost 1 foot snow, ice, mad in well below temperature, of course not on Nickel battery /on LiFePo/.
With zero problems with motor/controller.
TF is increadible design with super smooth ride and wonderfull regen. Complete silent motor.
For others to even consider buyig from you you need to post close up pictures to start with plus documentation pictures, etc.

You have one of the best in your hands, why would you even consider selling, installing third party battery quite simple.
HERE IS THE LINK:
https://sites.google.com/site/contin...ing-tidalforce

JOHNJOHNAA 12-04-13 02:07 PM

Hi sir would you consider selling or renting 1 of your battery chargers if you rent i will pay shipping both ways.i just want to see what will happen if i try to charge the batterys it has now it shows only 52 miles on the odometer.let me know my e-mail address is johnjohnaa@msn.com
ps the aa has nothing to do with alcoholics annominous---they stand for my last name--thanks john anaya

powell 01-11-14 12:31 AM

I don't have original Tidal Force Nicel battery charger anymore, anyway I cannot find it .
LEVT -SERVICE company for Tidal Force can sell you one for sure.

miro13car

GerhardtD 01-11-14 07:27 PM

New Tidal Force Bikes
 
Hi,
I have access to several new old stock Tidal Force E-Bikes that belong to a dealer friend who retired. I plan to make them operational. I would appreciate any recommendations on how to proceed. I have the dealers service manual. I have WMR 500 watt battery test equipment, several oscilloscopes, Cycle Analysis with data logger and a Controller-Motor-Throttle tester. I met one of the original Tidal Force design engineers at Interbike 2013 in My LEVA technician class.
Thanks for any help you can give me. I plan to put any useful maintenance information into the LEVA Level 2 E-Bike Training and Certification Instructor material.
Don Gerhardt


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Originally Posted by kauaikit (Post 16280682)
Hey John....why not update your riding experience and loose the factory original 8 year old front NiMH battery hub, install a jumper in the dash (B battery) & purchase a lithium battery pack in the 46v range. Hobbyking NanoTech or Zippy's work great. Besides you too will get increased range and top speeds around 32 mph with a X hub TF.

What version of TF do you have?


powell 01-11-14 11:13 PM

Don, welcome to EB forums.
As an owner of 3 electric bicycles: Merida, Eplus, Tidal Force. I can tell you by all means do not sell your TFs like they are right now, try to make them operational and then find new homes for them.
Shortly if you tried several other ebike like I did over the years you must tell by now that TF is one of the best out there. Quality of ride is silky smooth and completely silent even under hard acceleration with wonderful regen breaking and very linear throttle.
But the best about TF is durability of motor/controller legendary right now.
It must be said clearly TF AND ePLUS stand out because they are designed in USA and made to Western standards.
LEVT stands for Light Electric Vehicle Technologies - it is USA company which services and sells ebikes among other thing, they are service company for Tidal Force among other electric vehicles.

kauaikit 01-12-14 01:10 AM

Tidalforce upgrades
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by GerhardtD (Post 16402922)
Hi,
I have access to several new old stock Tidal Force E-Bikes that belong to a dealer friend who retired. I plan to make them operational. I would appreciate any recommendations on how to proceed. I have the dealers service manual. I have WMR 500 watt battery test equipment, several oscilloscopes, Cycle Analysis with data logger and a Controller-Motor-Throttle tester. I met one of the original Tidal Force design engineers at Interbike 2013 in My LEVA technician class.
Thanks for any help you can give me. I plan to put any useful maintenance information into the LEVA Level 2 E-Bike Training and Certification Instructor material.
Don Gerhardt

GerhardtD….first off, attempt to purchase the TF ebikes. Then give NO time, money, or effort to use or charge the original 42v/8ah NiMH front battery hubs. Replace with a nice 26" disc brake setup, or a dyno 26" hub to power a front light & purchase a third party lithium poly or iron phosphate battery pack. You will also need to "hot-wire" the bike, by using a "jumper" on the 11/12 "B" battery connection in the dash.

The original NiMH chemistry in the front hubs is too heavy, low voltage, and doesn't give the range you really desire from a modern ebike. The max voltage you can use is 46v for the rear TF hub to function. At this voltage, the stock "X" top speed is increased from 27.5mph to around 33+ mph.

The "X" hubs can really suck up the Amps, so setup at least a 16-20ah battery pack.

powell 01-12-14 12:18 PM

Again look at post #31 above
there is the link which shows how to install jumper into console .
That is all you need to do to convert to any 36V battery.
Again it is called 36V hub battery, 36V TF drive system no any 42, 41V. Of course baterry charges to above 36V, but lets call it 36V.
Of course you need matching plug Delphi brand installed on your new battery. This can be complicated for not electrical person. But any electrical shop would do it for you.
BUT
I dont know if he is going to come back here.

powell 01-12-14 12:42 PM

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As a comparison point with China cheap edrives out there,
here are the pictures of Tidal Force motor at 24,229 kilometers.
That are kilometers ridden mostly in harsh Canadian winter since 2005.
Minimum summer kilometers here.
Designed to Western Standards with precision , quality materials used , NO cheap here made all the difference
It must cost $$$.
My TF cost $3,500 in 2005 and paid for itself long time ago.
I opened TF motor to check for rusting magnetics - no chance.
Also was concerned about bearings after over 24,000kms , didnt detect any loose, free play however, because they used quality sealed bearings /again $$$/.
Black silicone is mine, overreaction, no respectful motor manufacturer will use silicon to seal.
miro13car

http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=359235

http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=359236

http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=359237

jmirabil 08-20-15 12:06 AM

Hi.. been looking for a working tidalforce oruginal, ideally white cased german model, nimh hub-battery charger... the slower charging onecwith led... butvwill look inyo the other fastee gray one slso...
anybody have anything to sell me used to do this job but not pay an arm and a leg for my Tidalforce S750 modded bike with still-stong front hub battery -please email me. Hopefully such an original charger will be like 80$or less, hopefully mote like $40 plus shop...but let me know (email me directly ideally) what you have that's working, and I might deal a bit :)
Thx, Jonathan


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