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Old 09-28-11, 09:52 AM   #1
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Oregon Manifest Design Challenge winner includes pedal assist

Pereira Cycles winning design included pedal assist which some found controversial
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Old 09-28-11, 01:45 PM   #2
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Understandably controversial as most cyclists think an electric bike is cheating. But really, to get the next wave of people out of cars, you need the electric assist!!
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Old 09-29-11, 12:06 PM   #3
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I thought the judges' fascination with the fact that it had electric assist meant that they were too ignorant of utility bikes to be judging the contest.
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Old 09-29-11, 12:14 PM   #4
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I thought the judges' fascination with the fact that it had electric assist meant that they were too ignorant of utility bikes to be judging the contest.
would you please elaborate?
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Old 09-29-11, 03:12 PM   #5
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would you please elaborate?
If you read the judge's comments, they really seemed unfamiliar with the existence of high-performance electric bikes that are capable of being a car substitute under a wide variety of circumstances. It seems to me that anyone that is qualified to judge a competition involving utility bikes should be aware that an electric bike is an option. I'm not particularly involved with electric bikes, and my interest in this area is more towards un-powered utility bikes. But I really think it would be nice to have an electric bike to ride on days I want to drive my car or run errands. Today, for example. I was running late for work, it was raining, and I need to put my fenders on my bike. So I drove. If I had an electric utility bike, I would have ridden that.
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Old 09-30-11, 04:20 PM   #6
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Yeah, I think a lot of the judges were just not familiar- not sure I agree that it makes them unqualified. BTW, it seemed like a few of the cargo frame builders were, too as I saw one in pushing their bikes uphill and others battling.
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Old 10-04-11, 10:04 AM   #7
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Really. A Custom bike with a stock BionX kit on it? Only a design exercise? We need the real deal now for a decent price, this Tesla business model that is being followed is not pro working man, or even reality based at all IMNSHO. Sooner or later someone will get it right perhaps.
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Old 10-04-11, 10:12 AM   #8
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Tony is a great guy, a brilliant builder, teacher, and a new dad... the electric assist might come in useful when he is towing the wee one up and down those hills in Portland.

I can understand why he integrated a Bionx into his latest masterpiece.
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Very cool. Thanks for sharing. I am looking for an electric bike too due to ankle pain. I can't fathom not being able to ride my bike Electric bikes gives me hope. Hat's of to Tony for trying. His bike is so cool. I wonder how much it would cost to build or buy one. He should try and market the idea.
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In the latter part of the nineteenth century, cars were built up by hand much like houses. The frame sat in the workshop while the workers put parts on it. Marketed to big spenders who wanted the latest. Then came Henry Ford...What we need is a new Henry Ford with electric cycles. Look at some of the pictures of Henry Ford, Ransom E. Olds, Henry Nash, and the others as they tootled around the streets in their prototype automobiles. Now look at the current crop of electric cycles. The main difference is the today pictures are in color.
Who will be the next Henry Ford?
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It seems to me that a decent electric bike is going to be a little spendy no matter who makes it. You need a quality bike to base it on. To get a decent quality bike with no electric assist means pretty close to $1000. So to be profitable, a good electric production bike is going to be somewhere near $2k. Since it's a car replacement, I see nothing wrong with that price.
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