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    Garmin Edge 520

    Garmin has a new GPS cycling computer, the 520. List price is $299.99 USD.
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    GPS Bike Computer Helps You Compete and Compare
    • Offers in-ride challenges through Strava live segments
    • Reports cycling-specific VO2 max and recovery time when used with power and heart rate
    • Pairs with compatible ANT+® indoor trainers for data display and control
    • Tracks Functional Threshold Power (FTP), watts/kg and cycling dynamics when used with Vector™ or Vector 2 power meters
    • Connected features¹: automatic uploads, live tracking, smart notifications, send/receive courses, social media sharing, weather

    Here’s Your Competitive Edge
    We started with the aerodynamic form factor of the popular Edge 500, added in-ride challenges on Strava live segments, color display, connected capabilities and advanced analysis features. The result — Edge 520, the GPS bike computer that’s right-sized for competitive cyclists and packed with the features you crave.

    Prove Your Edge
    Edge 520 is the first bike computer that’s compatible with Strava live segments and includes a 3-month trial of Strava Premium. With this membership, your starred Strava segments automatically sync with the 520 for live feedback during your ride. You’ll also get alerts for segment start and finish and leaderboard rankings once you complete the segment.

    Train on the Edge
    Need some motivation to get through those lonely miles on the indoor trainer? Edge 520 delivers with a suite of training capabilities when paired with compatible ANT+ indoor trainers. Let’s say you want to train at an average power of 240 watts. Just set the target on Edge 520, start pedaling, and the trainer will automatically adjust to keep you at your target while the 520 shows your stats. You can also follow a course that you or another rider created and literally race the recorded stats, with the trainer adjusting resistance to match the elevation profile.

    Pair it with a power meter and Edge 520 offers an additional set of features, like FTP and watts/kg tracking, so you can compare yourself to others, as well as cycling dynamics². A built-in FTP test helps you establish your baseline either on the trainer or on the road. Add heart rate³ and the 520 can derive your VO2 max estimate and post-ride recovery time, which indicates how long before you should attempt another hard effort.

    Optimized Display
    Edge 520 compromises nothing when it comes to display — 2.3 inches of high-resolution color. We maximized the display so you get the most live area in relation to the compact size of the 520. You’ll also appreciate the screen clarity in all lighting conditions.

    The Connected Bike
    Edge 520 is compatible with ANT+ sensors, including Varia™ bike radar and lights4, speed, cadence, heart rate, Edge and VIRB® remotes and compatible weight scales. It also integrates with Shimano Di2 electronic shifting systems5 to display your current gear on the screen. Edge 520 is also compatible with ANT+ power meters, including the Vector series.

    Smartphone Connectivity
    When paired with your compatible phone and the Garmin Connect™ Mobile app, Edge 520 offers live tracking, smartphone alerts, social media sharing, weather and wireless uploads. Once your ride is complete, the data can be automatically sent to Garmin Connect™, our online community where you can save, plan and share your rides.

    Off the Beaten Path
    The compact, rugged form factor and 15+ hour battery life of Edge 520 make it ideal for off-road adventures. It’s also compatible with GPS/GLONASS satellites, so you benefit from more signal options, wherever your ride takes you.

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    And DCRainmaker has his first review of the 520:
    Today Garmin announced their latest bike computer, the Edge 520 – priced at $299USD. This GPS-enabled unit instantly becomes the most advanced bike computer that Garmin has ever released, adding support for a flotilla of new features. But fear not, owners of the Edge 1000/810/510 and even last week’s Edge 25 are getting some of these new features too.
    In addition to the Edge 520 announcement, Garmin also announced a new bike radar and bike light system, which I’ve covered in a separate post. Further yet, they’ve announced deep integration with Strava for a number of devices (including the new Edge 520). I talk about the Strava integration later in this post, but also in more detail in a separate dedicated post. . . .
    As I noted earlier, this is without question the most new features we’ve ever seen come to a bike computer – Garmin or otherwise. It’s like they’ve been saving up for the past 6 years since the release of the original Edge 500, and decided to cash out in one big swoop. Some of the below have been added to other product lines (i.e. the Edge 1000), yet others are new altogether. So I’m sorta using the Edge 500/510 as the baselines, and noting when and where there are variances.

    Here’s the skinny:
    – Added on-device Strava Segment integration
    – Added basemap to device
    – Added ability to download 3rd party detailed maps
    – Added Bluetooth Smart Text & Call Notifications (previously on Edge 1000)
    – Added Recovery Advisor metrics (previously only on some Running/Tri units)
    – Added VO2 Max Estimation (previously only on some newer Garmin units)
    – Added FTP tracking and testing
    – Added Personal Records
    – Added Cycling Dynamics metrics (previously only on some newer Garmin units)
    – Added ability to control Garmin Varia bike lights
    – Added integration with Garmin Varia bike radar system
    – Added ANT+ FE-C Trainer Control
    – Addition of GLONASS support (was in Edge 510, but not 810 or 500)
    – Time in zones (first seen on the FR920XT/Fenix3)

    In addition to the above, when compared to the Edge 500, you’ll find these new features that have been added to most Garmin devices as of late. These are all present/added on the Edge 520:

    – Integrated Live Tracking with phone
    – Integrated Bluetooth Smart uploads to your mobile phone (and then sync’d to Strava/Training Peaks/Sport Tracks/etc…)
    – Ability to download courses and workouts from phone to Edge 520
    – Sensor pool concept & Activity Profiles (no bike profiles)
    – Support for Edge Remote Control accessory
    – Support for Shimano Di2 integration
    – Support for Garmin VIRB control/integration
    – Added Training Calendar support
    – Added Auto Sleep option (turns off if not used for a while)
    – Added Lap summary page (seen on Edge 510/810/1000, but not Edge 500)
    – Support for ANT+ sensor types: Cadence sensors, Heart Rate Sensors, Power Meters, Speed Sensors, Speed/Cadence Sensors, VIRB action cams, Weight Scales

    Now, there are a few things that have been missing from various recent Garmin units, so I double-checked to see if those were there. They are as follows:

    – ANT+ Weight Scale support was kept
    – Sharing of files between units directly was kept
    – Auto Lap by Position is present/kept

    Phew, I think that about covers it. Well, I hope it does anyway, if not, just drop a specific feature into the comments section and I can clarify.
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    Is the barometer temperature-calibrated? Earlier Edge units are not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Athens80 View Post
    And DCRainmaker has his first review of the 520:



    See his site for more.
    Half the features won't work for at least a year. Smartphone pairing as useless as it is probably never will really work right.

    On the plus side you do lighten your wallet of $300USD, so you might go faster.

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    200x265 pixel display. What are peoples' thoughts on that?

    For context that's more pixels than my Edge 800 and they're going into a smaller screen. I've never really felt like the 800 needed more pixels. On the other hand, a $75 smart phone has as many pixels in every square inch. More pixels would allow better mapping and graphing. (Even Garmin's new watches can show you a graph of your heart rate or power output over the last 30 minutes.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seattle Forrest View Post
    200x265 pixel display. What are peoples' thoughts on that?

    For context that's more pixels than my Edge 800 and they're going into a smaller screen. I've never really felt like the 800 needed more pixels. On the other hand, a $75 smart phone has as many pixels in every square inch. More pixels would allow better mapping and graphing. (Even Garmin's new watches can show you a graph of your heart rate or power output over the last 30 minutes.)
    More pixels lower battery life. And unlike a smartphone, you're not needing lots of detail on a computer...you just need enough to read numbers from 1/2 a meter away or make out a map.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seattle Forrest View Post
    200x265 pixel display. What are peoples' thoughts on that?

    For context that's more pixels than my Edge 800 and they're going into a smaller screen. I've never really felt like the 800 needed more pixels. On the other hand, a $75 smart phone has as many pixels in every square inch. More pixels would allow better mapping and graphing. (Even Garmin's new watches can show you a graph of your heart rate or power output over the last 30 minutes.)
    I'm hoping the lack of touchscreen will make the display a little easier to read than the 800. I find looking at maps on the 800 with sunglasses on very difficult. More pixels is generally better.

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    Ray's review is based on some actual usage along with the Garmin information. He's the gold standard as far as I'm concerned. I expect we'll learn more from him before the unit ships later this quarter. He's great at addressing comments on the reviw.

    I like better resolution, particularly when it can display OpenStreet maps. Detail is good. Estimated battery life is 15 hours, lower than the 510's and 500's. The MSRP is $30 lower than the 510's.

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    YouTube walk through:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marcus_Ti View Post
    More pixels lower battery life. And unlike a smartphone, you're not needing lots of detail on a computer...you just need enough to read numbers from 1/2 a meter away or make out a map.
    It's not like it's a watch that absolutely has to be as small and light as possible. Make the battery slightly larger. Garmin is known for good hardware, I think the resolution is a bit lacking this day in age.

    You can have much better and more detailed maps with more pixels. Shading to show hills. Graphs of elevation, power, heart, etc. I guess the Edge units don't support CIQ, they're doing data fields that aren't just numbers now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seattle Forrest View Post
    200x265 pixel display. What are peoples' thoughts on that?
    Given the tiny size of the screen, increasing the resolution significantly would add more detail that would be too hard to see.

    Quote Originally Posted by Seattle Forrest View Post
    It's not like it's a watch that absolutely has to be as small and light as possible.
    Some people think the 510 is too big.

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    Some people think the 510 is too big. Some people think it's too small. Thank you for your insight.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marcus_Ti View Post
    Half the features won't work for at least a year. Smartphone pairing as useless as it is probably never will really work right.

    On the plus side you do lighten your wallet of $300USD, so you might go faster.
    Please explain, my 510 seems to pair just fine with my current phone an iPhone6 and it worked fine with my last phone which was a Samsung 3 mini. I think it is fair to speculate that the 520 would if anything be even better.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seattle Forrest View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Seattle Forrest View Post
    It's not like it's a watch that absolutely has to be as small and light as possible.
    Some people think the 510 is too big. Some people think it's too small. Thank you for your insight.
    You've made the perfect reply to your "insight". I'm not saying everybody said it was too big (it's silly of you to think that I did).

    There might be a few people who think the 510 is too small but I've never heard of anybody complain about that.

    Garmin made the 520 in the size that it is, presumably, for a reason. That is, they likely considered making it as large as the 510.

    I suspect that one problem was that the larger size of 510 (it's not that much smaller than the 810) made it less popular than the 500. It's possible that Garmin didn't make it bigger because that would have reduced sales of the 810.
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    You suspect they chose the size for a reason. Instead of throwing dice at a table to figure out what the dimensions would be. You're very insightful, aren't you? Did you guess it would have a battery, too?
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    the new radar and light system is also very interesting.

    Hands on with Garmin?s new Varia bike radar and smart light system | DC Rainmaker

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    Hmmm, definitely going to look into getting this. I've been using my phone for strava in my pocket with a Cateye Strada Wireless on as my computer and it's about time I upgrade. Would be nice to have more than 2 data fields to see at a time while riding. The live segments would be cool for solo rides as well.

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    I just obtained an Edge 520 with the Vector 2 sensors as part of a research project. I am trying to extract the raw data from Garmin connect. I spoke with Garmin and they do not have the capability to get the raw data. Does anyone know of a third party software that can interpret the data. I am not a computer guy.
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    What data are you trying to get at, specifically?

    I don't have a 520 but I have an 800, a Garmin Fenix 3, and Vector 2 pedals. I'm going to assume your 520 records FIT files like my 800 and F3 do. Those FIT files are as close to the raw data as you're going to get. Your 520 wants to "sync" those files to Garmin Connect after you ride, using your phone, but they also live on the device; when you connect it to your computer with a USB cord they'll be in a folder called \Activities. Alternately, you can pull any of them up in Garmin Connect, click the gear icon in the top right (the icon looks like settings), and from the menu click "export original."

    Golden Cheetah is a free, open source program that will open the FIT files you're recording and can show you some of the raw data they contain. You can copy and paste the data to Excel if you like, I can give you a T-SQL query I came up with to look at the data and compare the same ride recorded on two devices, I'll assume you don't want that unless I hear otherwise.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rinosfyre View Post
    Does anyone know of a third party software that can interpret the data.
    Quote Originally Posted by Seattle Forrest View Post
    Golden Cheetah is a free, open source program that will open the FIT files you're recording and can show you some of the raw data they contain. You can copy and paste the data to Excel if you like...
    +1

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    Thank you very much. I was able to get the results I wanted.

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