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gretnabikes 07-06-07 07:55 AM

New Lupine Flagship
 
Here is a sneak peak at whats to come :D
http://gallery.mtbr.com/data/mtbr/500/medium/super7.jpg

ViperZ 07-06-07 08:10 AM

Whoa!! :eek: :)


I'm not sure I need as much eyeball searing power as that looks to provide, however 2many will be lining up :D


I think the Wilma at 850 Lumens should suffice. In fact, I wish the Wilma's Light head was a bit smaller in overall diameter :(

2manybikes 07-06-07 08:45 AM

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Originally Posted by ViperZ
Whoa!! :eek: :)


I'm not sure I need as much eyeball searing power as that looks to provide, however 2many will be lining up :D


I think the Wilma at 850 Lumens should suffice. In fact, I wish the Wilma's Light head was a bit smaller in overall diameter :(

Do you mean the older one with 4 LED's? I think it's the same outside diameter as my Edison, just a little bigger than a bare mr 11 size bulb ?

You want my old 900 lumen Edison 10? :D

socalrider 07-06-07 09:26 AM

do you know if the new 7 led light is using cree led's or the older 3w luxeons? If it is using crees, that light has the potential of 1000+ lumens..

gretnabikes 07-06-07 10:07 AM

Just got the go a head to talk about this new light, which still doesn't have a name so if you would like help in the naming there is a poll on there forum, click here.
http://www.lupine-lights.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=1292

This new light is producing 1500 lumens! It is not using cree or luxeon, thats all i'm gonna say right now ;)

The new light will come in kits similar to the Edison kits.
13.8ah, Charger One, helmet mount in the top
6.8ah, Charger One, helmet mount next one down
6.8ah, Charger One, headband in another model

It will also have a range from high to a 1watt setting to read maps, work on your bike and such, and will also have new program settings, more info on that to come :D

socalrider 07-06-07 11:16 AM

If its not using cree or luxeon, that only leaves SSC P4 leds.. any clue on burn times for this light..

gretnabikes 07-06-07 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by socalrider
If its not using cree or luxeon, that only leaves SSC P4 leds.. any clue on burn times for this light..

Not sure about the burn times yet, but I will be getting that info soon. It does sound like this thing is running very efficient, expect very high run times.

socalrider 07-06-07 11:39 AM

that sounds great.. my 3 year old+ HID light is showing its age.. I don't minding spending the money but want to get 4 hour burn times when I ride at night.. When will this new light be available?

ViperZ 07-06-07 11:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by socalrider
that sounds great.. my 3 year old+ HID light is showing its age.. I don't minding spending the money but want to get 4 hour burn times when I ride at night.. When will this new light be available?


I suspect August some time? :D

gretnabikes 07-06-07 11:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by socalrider
that sounds great.. my 3 year old+ HID light is showing its age.. I don't minding spending the money but want to get 4 hour burn times when I ride at night.. When will this new light be available?


You def will get more than 4hrs of burntime on high with the new one, and even Wilma does that already. The new light will be available in a few weeks :D

ViperZ 07-06-07 12:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2manybikes
Do you mean the older one with 4 LED's? I think it's the same outside diameter as my Edison, just a little bigger than a bare mr 11 size bulb ?

You want my old 900 lumen Edison 10? :D

Well, the Edison 10 would be sweet, but I'm looking forward to the compact Wilma 6, LED unit with decent burn times...

But who knows, come the next few weeks, the New 7 LED Helios (Greek Sun God, and my formal name submission :D ) may have me convinced :lol:

Gojohnnygo. 07-06-07 12:14 PM

1500 lumens:eek: Does that mean 1500 dollars? Me looks at bank account.

gretnabikes 07-06-07 12:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ViperZ
Well, the Edison 10 would be sweet, but I'm looking forward to the compact Wilma 6, LED unit with decent burn times...

But who knows, come the next few weeks, the New 7 LED Helios (Greek Sun God, and my formal name submission :D ) may have me convinced :lol:

"Helios" thats a good one! You should post that on there forum, they would be into that!



Oh yeah... The front ring on the lamp "silver part" is made from titanium...

ViperZ 07-06-07 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by gretnabikes
"Helios" thats a good one! You should post that on there forum, they would be into that!

I was one step ahead of you, thanks :beer:


The Greek sun god, HELIOS was know to fly his helicopter-like chariot across the sky.

socalrider 07-06-07 12:26 PM

my vote is for helios or hellfire... LTBC is a good one also, "light that blinds cars"

Cyclaholic 07-06-07 08:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by socalrider
If its not using cree or luxeon, that only leaves SSC P4 leds.. any clue on burn times for this light..

Depends on what wattage each LED is run at.

In the case of the P4, it can be driven at up to 3 watts (~210 lumens at 3watts for the U-binned LEDs) that's 21 watts and 1470 lumens! :eek: but only if they can keep the junction temp under about 40 degrees celsius.

They lose a little bit of efficiency when driven at their maximum, only 70 lumens/watt. At 10.5watts you'd get ~870 lumens for 80lumens/watt and at 7 watts (1 watt each LED) you's get ~700 lm for a very respectable 100 lumens/watt which is about the best available in LED technology at the moment.

These power figures are at the LED and don't take into consideration losses through the driver circuit, but they're pretty small anyhow. You can allow 4% or 5% losses to be on the safe side. Now just pick a battery size and a brightness level and you can easily figure out your runtime.

2manybikes 07-07-07 08:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ViperZ
Well, the Edison 10 would be sweet, but I'm looking forward to the compact Wilma 6, LED unit with decent burn times...

But who knows, come the next few weeks, the New 7 LED Helios (Greek Sun God, and my formal name submission :D ) may have me convinced :lol:

I like Helios a lot. Probably the best.


Quote:

Originally Posted by gretnabikes
Oh yeah... The front ring on the lamp "silver part" is made from titanium...

They did not miss a single detail.

Except that I will end up skipping my mortgage payment ! ! :D :D

2manybikes 07-07-07 08:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cyclaholic
Depends on what wattage each LED is run at.

In the case of the P4, it can be driven at up to 3 watts (~210 lumens at 3watts for the U-binned LEDs) that's 21 watts and 1470 lumens! :eek: but only if they can keep the junction temp under about 40 degrees celsius.

They lose a little bit of efficiency when driven at their maximum, only 70 lumens/watt. At 10.5watts you'd get ~870 lumens for 80lumens/watt and at 7 watts (1 watt each LED) you's get ~700 watts for a very respectable 100 lumens/watt which is about the best available in LED technology at the moment.

Just using a rough estimate.... The 830 lumen claim compares about right (almost the same) with a beam at night to my 900 lumen light. That gives the 830 lumen claim credibility.
If The Wilma with 4 LED's is 830 lumens. 830 divided by 4 = 207.5 lumens from each LED. The new one has 7 led's ......7x 207.5 = 1452.5 lumens.
They say 1500 lumens from the light. So it's in the 207 plus lumen ball park roughly from each led. Lupine made a custom ballast for the HID bulb that beats everyone else, so it's believable that they are finding a way to get what they say from each LED.

Zero_Enigma 07-08-07 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by gretnabikes
Here is a sneak peak at whats to come :D
http://gallery.mtbr.com/data/mtbr/500/medium/super7.jpg

1. How much is the ball park price?

2. Runtime highest and runtime lowest

3. . . . How heavy is the battery going to be?

4. What is the lens pattern? 2xspot? 4x flood and rest spot? Degree of the flood/spots?

5. How hot does it get when run at the highest setting? Hot enough to make ramen in?

6. Does it come with a pair of Raybans? :)

gretnabikes 07-09-07 07:14 AM

Zero, I can answer some of your questions. I don't really have a ballpark price yet, but it will be more then Edison. Don't want to quote on runtimes yet, but they sound really good! The batteries are the same they've had so... Not real sure about the lens pattern, but I'm sure I will have that info as well soon. What I have heard though is that this light (hope they go with Helios) has better management of heat, because that was something I asked about. If this thing is putting out that much light won't it get hot? They told me it won't fry eggs, so no cooking ramens either. As for the raybans :o

gretnabikes 07-09-07 08:25 AM

Just a little more info I got,

Some more facts:
Diameter 54 mm
Length 44 mm
Weight ~160 gr (lighthead only)
Power Levels from 0.5W to 22W
Note 0.5W is an emergency mode form ultra long runtimes
Lumens: more than 1400

We also made a couple of changes on the software. The most remarkable one: A new superflash with 2 additional dimmlevels and much easier to select.
We build up a new lens providing a broad beam and still more light in the distance. This was possible due to the 3 more available LEDs.

The new light will be available in 2 differents sets:
One version with the 6.8Ah Li-Ion battery and Charger One:
The 13.8Ah battery and Charger One:

Availibilty: Mid August

Just a note to the price/ performance relation. The 7 LEDs we using are more costly to us than the Edison bulb. We did not build this light to be cheap but to be the best.

Beam pictures: Available soon

ViperZ 07-09-07 12:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gretnabikes
Zero, I can answer some of your questions. I don't really have a ballpark price yet, but it will be more then Edison. Don't want to quote on runtimes yet, but they sound really good! The batteries are the same they've had so... Not real sure about the lens pattern, but I'm sure I will have that info as well soon. What I have heard though is that this light (hope they go with Helios) has better management of heat, because that was something I asked about. If this thing is putting out that much light won't it get hot? They told me it won't fry eggs, so no cooking ramens either. As for the raybans :o


Hey Gretna, if they do go with Helios, would I qualify for special pricing at all? :D

You know I would love to showcase my Helios light :D

gretnabikes 07-09-07 01:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ViperZ
Hey Gretna, if they do go with Helios, would I qualify for special pricing at all? :D

You know I would love to showcase my Helios light :D


ViperZ, so far Helios would be my vote for a name :D
If they go with that I will def see about giving you some sort of discount ;)

2manybikes 07-09-07 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Zero_Enigma
6. Does it come with a pair of Raybans? :)

http://img260.imageshack.us/img260/2...abaileyub0.jpg

Quote:

Originally Posted by ViperZ
Hey Gretna, if they do go with Helios, would I qualify for special pricing at all?

Yeah ! That's it !!

http://img255.imageshack.us/img255/7...croppedsu2.jpg

Quote:

Originally Posted by gretnabikes
If they go with that I will def see about giving you some sort of discount

For a discount (he started it :D ) you can have the rights to the "Death Star". :lol: :lol:

An Edison 10 with a red lens from a $1 blinky over it. The worlds brightest tailight.

http://img180.imageshack.us/img180/9173/hpim5888aw7.jpg

Bushman 07-10-07 12:20 AM

^ that is beautiful!


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