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    Quote Originally Posted by Houston_Biker View Post
    eTrex Legend Users:

    I am considering the Garmin 305 versus the eTrex Legend. Can you answer the following for me?

    1) Does the eTrex Legend require a subscription to a GPS service, or do you just simply turn on the unit?
    2) How big is the unit? Does it fit on a bike handlebar? Are there bike mounting brackets included or available?
    3) Is there as way with the eTrex Legend to save past routes? or upload your stats (speed, distance, routes) to another software program?
    4) If i have a separate cadence/HRM, is there any reason why I would want the 305 model.

    Sorry about all of the questions. I just don't have a lot of experience with either model.

    Thanks!
    1. Nope, it's like all GPS units, it uses the satellites put up by the gov't (just like the 305)
    2,3,4: ALL answered in previous posts in this thread. (Seriously, did you read the thread? You didn't even need to use the search, the answers are all in THIS thread)

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    I understand that the 305 just tells you where you have been, and not where you are going. However, if you are riding a route that you have been on before, but do not remember all the turns, can you use the route if it is saved in the 305 to repeat the same course? Just curious.

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    You can follow a course uploaded or saved to the edge. you just follow the line to be on the same course. Unfortunate that It doesn't have a way to take a gpx file and map it to cue sheet instructions. If it had that, I would be happy. I don't need a color screen, that would just drain the battery faster.
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    How does the Venture Cx reception compare to the 305 under tree cover?

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    not having tried in real life, i think the sirfstar III chipset should give the edge an edge over the etrex. i'm sure both work reasonably well. i use my sirfstar-based gps on streets through forests in rockland county and in very narrow streets with extremely tall buildings in downtown manhattan without any problem.

    article on why sirfstar is a big deal: link

    the difference in mapping software is assumably bigger than performance. The top row is what is available out of the box with the delorme PN-20. The middle row is what you get out of the box with Garmin. The bottom is the Garmin topo that is purchased extra.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zero_Enigma View Post
    While I love the Etrex for it's size but from what I've read it's not vibration protected for biking.
    I've ridden over 10,000 using a Etrex including a trip from SC to TX without these problems. It's been dropped a few times while riding without a lick except for a stratch. Now maybe using them for really hard mountain cycling but be a bit different.
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    Also another issue I have with the Etrex is they have /NOT/ gotten the SiRF technology into the units.
    Cost of the unit was the reason. But they just released the H series for the Etrex series which comes with a super sensative antenna very similar to the SIRF. Geocachers are raving about how good it is on their forums.

    http://forums.groundspeak.com

    Come on Garmin, it's been like 2yrs I think since SiRF has been out on your CS60 models (if I got the model number right) why can't you put that on your Etrex models? I'm sure the hunters have complained as well as other riders.
    Only the X series with the 60 and 76 have the SIRF receivers. The 60 and 60C do not have the SIRF chip. Like I said, the H series has a far more sensative chip. Even the little yellow Etrex is getting this new technology.

    http://www.garmin.com/outdoor

    Also one more thing to mention to everyone. You'll have to fork out around 100 bucks to get local maps for your area, the basemap of any handheld unit is just that, very basic.

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    One more follow up. The new H series Etrex has a much, much faster processor. That's important for routing and browsing maps. If you are in the market for an Etrex, make it is an H series one. The others are a few years old.

    PS - the B&W Etrex Legend is not getting the H chip. But the B&W yellow is. Go figure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gpsblake View Post
    I've ridden over 10,000 using a Etrex including a trip from SC to TX without these problems. It's been dropped a few times while riding without a lick except for a stratch. Now maybe using them for really hard mountain cycling but be a bit different.

    Cost of the unit was the reason. But they just released the H series for the Etrex series which comes with a super sensative antenna very similar to the SIRF. Geocachers are raving about how good it is on their forums.

    http://forums.groundspeak.com

    Only the X series with the 60 and 76 have the SIRF receivers. The 60 and 60C do not have the SIRF chip. Like I said, the H series has a far more sensative chip. Even the little yellow Etrex is getting this new technology.

    http://www.garmin.com/outdoor

    Also one more thing to mention to everyone. You'll have to fork out around 100 bucks to get local maps for your area, the basemap of any handheld unit is just that, very basic.
    Oh, yeah, you do need to buy maps. If you have a friend with them who's willing to share, Garmin will allow you to use your maps with two units so they'll let you put it on your unit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by donrhummy View Post
    Oh, yeah, you do need to buy maps. If you have a friend with them who's willing to share, Garmin will allow you to use your maps with two units so they'll let you put it on your unit.
    Or you can buy Garmin's Metro Guide which doesn't restrict the number of units you can put it on and comes with full mapping. It's Garmin City Navigator that comes with the 2 unit restriction.

    But..... OFFICIALLY - Metro Guide doesn't auto-route even on units that support auto-route. City Navigator will allow you to auto-route on those units.

    But again...... UNOFFICIALLY - you can auto route using Metro Guide using a 3rd party program called img2gps.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gpsblake View Post
    Or you can buy Garmin's Metro Guide which doesn't restrict the number of units you can put it on and comes with full mapping. It's Garmin City Navigator that comes with the 2 unit restriction.

    But..... OFFICIALLY - Metro Guide doesn't auto-route even on units that support auto-route. City Navigator will allow you to auto-route on those units.

    But again...... UNOFFICIALLY - you can auto route using Metro Guide using a 3rd party program called img2gps.
    Cool. yeah, there's always a way around almost every problem.

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    For GPS mapping when lost (someone said they throw it in their backpack rather than mount it for full time use) would it be better to use the GPS mapping function available on some of the cell phones these days?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sherbornpeddler View Post
    For GPS mapping when lost (someone said they throw it in their backpack rather than mount it for full time use) would it be better to use the GPS mapping function available on some of the cell phones these days?
    I highly doubt that but who knows. My guess is the cell phone wouldn't work as well and the battery life would be VERY short.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sherbornpeddler View Post
    For GPS mapping when lost (someone said they throw it in their backpack rather than mount it for full time use) would it be better to use the GPS mapping function available on some of the cell phones these days?
    Nothing I have seen built into a phone so far has thrilled me. Maybe I am out of date on this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ghettocruiser View Post
    I never got used to having something as big as a Etrex on the handlebars. I usually just throw it in my pack on "record track" function and DL the data when I get home.

    I have a standard little cateye on the bars and only take out the Garmin if I get lost.
    I have a mount on my stem for the eTrex Cx. It sits sideways on there, but I got accustomed to it.

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    So, what did you end up doing? Did you get an eTrex?

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    Did you get an eTrex?

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    I bought an Etrex Vista HCx and it works well. Mileage matches my odometer.
    I ordered a large dia Handlebar mount but haven't recieved it yet.
    I did discover the mini SD NA map insert doesn't load on my PC so I'll return it for the DVD (same price) map. The mini is easy as it is plug and play as far as the GPS.
    Just a few days ago Garmin came out with a maping version of the 305 but it costs quite a bit more and I like my powertap. I'll use the GPS in my car as well so this works out. I orrdered the car charger and rechargeable batteries too. (whew!)

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    new garmin units

    pretty much what the op wanted

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    It's not out until December? Who can wait!
    OK I see the author used "obsessed".
    Judging from this forum, fair to say I'm not alone?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jackaninny View Post
    new garmin units

    pretty much what the op wanted
    Except for the price.
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    Quote Originally Posted by chinarider View Post
    Except for the price.
    Exactly. I can get everything that can do with an eTrex + HRM. My eTrex was under $200 and my HRM was about $50. Total cost (brand new) was about $200 total (with mail-in rebate and $250 without). You're not getting anywhere near that with the new Garmin Edge's. Even if you add in a cyclometer for cadence, you're only looking at an extra $20.

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    yeh but ....its new and shiny.

    Given I already have odometer, cadence functions plus power (powertap) I added the GPS with mapping. The only advantage is Garmin combines all but power measurement in one unit. It is only a matter of time before they add that?

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