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    DiNotte 200L plus Ultra Tail Light with No Charger/No Batteries?

    Out of curiosity, is it possible to purchase the combination of the DiNotte 200L and the DiNotte Ultra Tail Light at slightly less cost if purchased without the chargers and NiMH batteries?

    I do quite a bit of photography and have a very nice 8-battery Maha charger and lots of 2500 mAh batteries at my disposal (along with several other unused chargers, the number of which I'd like to avoid increasing).

    So...if these can be purchased without the normally included chargers and batteries, where is the best-bet place for purchasing? Directly from DiNotte? I don't actually see the 200L listed on their site, so perhaps a direct inquiry to the company is needed. But if anyone has a bit of related info that would be helpful in answering my questions, I'd sure appreciate it.

    Thanks in advance for any feedback...

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    geoman will give you a special price without chargers and batteries, just email him what you want..

    http://www.geomangear.com/index.php?...534494c44063b1

    I have found that the duracell 2650 nimh are best solid performers out there and they are easily found..

    you can also pm here on BF: We sell Garmin Edge and DiNotte Cycling Lights

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    Thanks for all three pieces of info, socalrider. I sure appreciate it.

    I had actually wandered over to geoman's site and looked it over, but hadn't realized my what I was asking about was one of the possibilities. I'll definitely contact him about it.

    Thanks again...

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    Quote Originally Posted by varuscelli View Post
    Out of curiosity, is it possible to purchase the combination of the DiNotte 200L and the DiNotte Ultra Tail Light at slightly less cost if purchased without the chargers and NiMH batteries?

    I do quite a bit of photography and have a very nice 8-battery Maha charger and lots of 2500 mAh batteries at my disposal (along with several other unused chargers, the number of which I'd like to avoid increasing).

    So...if these can be purchased without the normally included chargers and batteries, where is the best-bet place for purchasing? Directly from DiNotte? I don't actually see the 200L listed on their site, so perhaps a direct inquiry to the company is needed. But if anyone has a bit of related info that would be helpful in answering my questions, I'd sure appreciate it.

    Thanks in advance for any feedback...
    Wha model Maha do you have? The 808S or 808Pro? How do you like it?
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    Also contact Rob at Dinotte. He will give good deals and often some extras to keep your unit going. He will accomedate any order/custom.

    I think he said the 200L would be $140 USD without a charger. I forgot so don't quote me. The ballpark sounds right but I'll have to find that email agian.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zero_Enigma View Post
    Wha model Maha do you have? The 808S or 808Pro? How do you like it?
    I'm actually not using the very latest and greatest available as my Maha charger is a couple of years old now (I'm considering adding a slightly more updated unit, though, after having used my current model for a couple of years). The one I use doesn't actually help you with monitoring rechargeable battery overall life (to help you determine which cells are eventually failing after long-term use), and I'd like a charger that has that function. I'm not at all unhappy with the Maha I'm using, though, and think it was a great buy as one of my personal "recommended" items.

    I've got the MH-C801D. I got mine from Thomas Distributing, who sells a lot of this kind of stuff and is great price-wise. The MH-C801D will charge up to eight AA or AAA batteries at a time (even mixed together, if desired) and has three charging modes (Rapid, Soft, and Conditioning modes).

    Here's the one I use:

    Maha MH-C801D

    The next up from that is the Maha MH-C808M which will charge AAA, AA, C and D batteries (simultaneously, if desired).

    Maha MH-C808M

    Higher-end capabilities are encompassed by the Maha MH-C9000, but it'll charge only 4 batteries at a time.

    Maha MH-C9000

    One of the nice but exceptionally inexpensive things I get from Thomas Distributing is their plastic battery holders, which weigh next to nothing and fit sets of 4 or 8 batteries like a glove. (The 8 battery holder actually weighs in at about 18 grams or about the weight of a single AA battery.) They're a buck or two apiece and well worth having for carrying extra batteries. Thomas Distributing will send you a couple of those free with the Maha chargers, but here's a link to the ones I've bought extras of (if you buy only one of these battery cases, you'll pay something like $7 shipping, but if you buy them in bunches, like 4 cases at a time or so, shipping drops to about a buck and a half). The version that holds 8 batteries has a more positive latching mechanism and the cases will not come open accidentally. The version that holds 4 batteries has a less robust method of clipping closed.

    Maha 8-Cell Plastic Battery Holder

    As a side note the steves-digicams.com site has a pretty good evaluation section for battery and charger comparisons here:

    Steve's Digicams Rechargeable Batteries

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zero_Enigma View Post
    Also contact Rob at Dinotte. He will give good deals and often some extras to keep your unit going. He will accomedate any order/custom.
    Thanks, Zero_Enigma, I appreciate the additional contact info.

    I also PM'ed GeoMan last night and got a response before daybreak (or thereabouts) this morning. Quick response! (Wanted to mention how the response to my questions was.) He's working on seeing what he can do and will let me know. Sounds pretty good, though, in terms of being able to get what's wanted in my particular case.

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    Quote Originally Posted by varuscelli View Post
    Thanks, Zero_Enigma, I appreciate the additional contact info.

    I also PM'ed GeoMan last night and got a response before daybreak (or thereabouts) this morning. Quick response! (Wanted to mention how the response to my questions was.) He's working on seeing what he can do and will let me know. Sounds pretty good, though, in terms of being able to get what's wanted in my particular case.
    Just so you know I'mnot affliated with Dinotte tho I love the eye candy of thier lights. BTW How true is that Maha 801 to the 1hr/2hr fast/slow spec on charging 2500's? I have been looking at Thomas for a few years now and have see the Maha products grow. I have posted on Steve's as well. The 9000 is nice but there have been some comments about some features of the Lacrosse BC900 that are not on the 9000 and vice versa.

    If I had the coinage I'd get a 808 for bulk charge (camera guy here as well) + 204W for the reviving of older cells and compact carry + 9000 for diagnostics when I have more time as I think it said it can take up to 48hrs to fully check a cycle. I could be wrong on that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zero_Enigma View Post
    Just so you know I'mnot affliated with Dinotte..
    As I'm not affiliated with Maha or Thomas Distributing, although from the length of my post it might seem otherwise...

    Just a satisfied customer.


    Quote Originally Posted by Zero_Enigma View Post
    BTW How true is that Maha 801 to the 1hr/2hr fast/slow spec on charging 2500's? I have been looking at Thomas for a few years now and have see the Maha products grow. I have posted on Steve's as well. The 9000 is nice but there have been some comments about some features of the Lacrosse BC900 that are not on the 9000 and vice versa.
    On the quick charging mode, it's not something I test often since it's been my impression that with most chargers doing a quick charge heats up the batteries too much, which I think can shorten their overall life. It's good thing for occasional use, but I'm not sure I'd be comfortable using it all the time (and it does seem to charge them pretty fast, not far off from the specs as stated I don't think). That's the impression I have, in any case, and man I've felt "quick charge" batteries come out of quick chargers so hot you almost couldn't hold them. For the most part, I try to time things such that I can use either the Soft Charge mode or occasionally the Reconditioning mode when I can. That's one of the things I like about the 8-battery capacity on the C801D. Even on Soft Charge, 8 batteries at a time usually takes only a few hours and I can fully charge a set of 16 overnight. When I know I'll need them the next day, I'll put a set of 8 in around dinner time and another set of 8 before bedtime, and the next day I'm good to go with 16 fully charged AA batteries.

    I almost never need anything besides rechargeable AA or AAA batteries, but if I did I'd likely want that Maha C808M for its versatility.

    And on the comparisons with the Maha 9000 and the Lacrosse BC900, truthfully I've not kept up with much on the discussions, so I don't know the latest and greatest pros and cons of the different models like those. But now I suppose I'm going to have to look into it, since you've brought it up.

    I have the opinion, thougg (and I'll just throw this out there) that one of the worst thing to do with rechargeables is to use those really cheap chargers that come (for instance) packaged with the Energizer 2500's and the like. Not all of then are bad, but some are terrible. The low-end chargers that they package as inexpensive combination battery/charger "packages" you can pick up at Fry's or Sam's Club are good (in my opinion) only for the batteries you're getting. The chargers themselves (in many cases) should be immediately pitched in the trash bin. Much better to buy a decent quality charger that meets the specs you want and just get batteries separately (in many cases, but not all cases of course). And I'm not enough of an expert to KNOW that those cheapie chargers are bad for the batteries, but I suspect it's the case. Just my thoughts, anyway.

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    By the way, the whole idea of being able to use AA rechargeable batteries in whatever bike light I choose is a part of the reason I'm looking at the DiNotte lights.

    Are there other good quality lighting options I should consider that would allow me to use AA batteries? Another brand of light I should also be considering?

    I have so many devices already for recharging various batteries (mostly proprietary stuff for camera batteries, high-end power sources for camera flashes, etc., that I don't have much choice but to use) that I like the idea of being able to stick with my existing charge/recharge options on AA batteries rather than deal with yet another type of battery requiring yet another charger.

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    Quote Originally Posted by varuscelli View Post
    By the way, the whole idea of being able to use AA rechargeable batteries in whatever bike light I choose is a part of the reason I'm looking at the DiNotte lights.

    Are there other good quality lighting options I should consider that would allow me to use AA batteries? Another brand of light I should also be considering?

    I have so many devices already for recharging various batteries (mostly proprietary stuff for camera batteries, high-end power sources for camera flashes, etc., that I don't have much choice but to use) that I like the idea of being able to stick with my existing charge/recharge options on AA batteries rather than deal with yet another type of battery requiring yet another charger.
    Also check out Fenix Lights and in thier pre-order section. Use the code " pre-order10 " for a 10% discount. Thankfully I found out about this coupon code as it'll help save some money to put towards batteries.

    You may want to look at the P2D and P3D in the pre-order section. They are not AA as you want but use CR123 and can take RCR123 3.0/3.6v. I emailed and checked with Fenix on the battery voltages. One huge advantage is the brighter light you get. P2D = 175lm and P3D = 200lm.

    Tho you would probably unit use mid-power for most of the time unless you're going down some steep hills then I would turn the power to 100%. Because it's in the 150+lm catagory it makes also for a tactical blinding weapon should you ever be engaged (knock on wood that you won't *knock knock*) by a hostile individual. Getting shot in the eyes with a 200lm is like a punch in the face. Also it's wire free so it's quick for moving to and from in the city. Just make sure before entering any trails or valleys to change to new cells so you're not caught changing cells in the middle of the valley. It is also in a small size form factor.

    One disadvantage is pretty obvious that you're using CR123 batteries. While they can be found in any city at oh say 23:30 local time when only the convience stores are open they may carry the CR123 but they'll have a premium price on them. Not to say the AA's at a convience store at that time are cheap but the price difference then would look cheaper.

    There is a L2D model that gives off 175lm and can use Alk./NIMH/NICAD/Lithium 2xAA batteries but it's size factor is a bit larger. If you're using it on the helmet it will look odd as it's long being a 2xAA unit. While on the handlebars the look is diffused some what by the handbrakes, stem, and such. The pros are obvious that AA can be found anywhere even in the dead of night 03:00 when you've got a riding fix for a short ride when you can't sleep any convience store will have cells if you forgot your spares. The cons are the size of the unit which makes it more visually limited to the handlebars but you can still helmet mount it if you want but it just won't look that good. The P3D is already pushing the helmet mount look IMHO.

    So a combination of AA and CR123 would be a cheap alternative given the prices. Free S/H is hard to beat and with the 10% it makes the deal sweeter. You'll be topping out at 375lms with that setup and about ~115USD price which is good bang for buck if you look around at your other options which only go up in price. The H3 coating makes it hard for scatches on the light so it looks better longer.

    You can always get a RCR123 charger + batteries from Fenix Store, All-Battery, DealExtreme, etc. Both DX and Fenix have free S/H.

    Less wires less hassle when doing stop and go trips. Also it's easier to give a flashlight to a friend if needed then while riding then taking a Dinotte unit off.
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    Well, you've give me even more interesting stuff to consider, Zero_Enigma.

    I'm finding that looking at all the lighting options that I've been trying to evaluate is giving me a case of information overload. I know that I want something of good quality and will do the job well. At the same time, I want to avoid overspending, which I may very well be doing if I go for the DiNotte option.

    One thing I have to consider is that I have a feeling I could really get into some night riding. At least, I see it as a possibility. I might end up needing lights for more than just the occasional early evening convenience but for fairly regular use, depending on how things work out over the long haul. If I do any significant amount of night riding, I want to make sure that I'm set up both to see and be seen. Like probably anyone else, I want to get as much bang for the buck as possible and want as much built-in convenience as I can manage to get.

    And, while I'm leaning pretty strongly toward the rechargeable AA route, if I can do better with another option I'm certainly willing to consider it. (But my first "look" is into the AA options to see what I can in terms of whats out there.)

    In my area on the Texas Gulf Coast (and specifically where I live in terms of city/neighborhood), we've got very little besides flat terrain (not really any hills). I live in a very much urban area just outside Houston (no longer what I'd call the suburbs because of growth in our area, but still a an interesting mix of city streets (much newly paved, in a relative sense) and nearby rural routes that are somewhat accessible. But my night riding, as far as I can predict, will mostly all be on paved streets and walkways, with some areas lit and some not. So, I'd sure like to explore whatever options might work best for me with those few things in mind. But I'm not even sure at this point what other things I need to consider (in terms of lighting needs). So I think my brain is both opening up to possibilities and freezing up with all the options I've been considering the last few days.

    Too many possible choices and not enough personal frame of reference!

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    ^ its quite simple, one must aquire one of everything!

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    Quote Originally Posted by varuscelli View Post
    Well, you've give me even more interesting stuff to consider, Zero_Enigma.

    I'm finding that looking at all the lighting options that I've been trying to evaluate is giving me a case of information overload. I know that I want something of good quality and will do the job well. At the same time, I want to avoid overspending, which I may very well be doing if I go for the DiNotte option.

    One thing I have to consider is that I have a feeling I could really get into some night riding. At least, I see it as a possibility. I might end up needing lights for more than just the occasional early evening convenience but for fairly regular use, depending on how things work out over the long haul. If I do any significant amount of night riding, I want to make sure that I'm set up both to see and be seen. Like probably anyone else, I want to get as much bang for the buck as possible and want as much built-in convenience as I can manage to get.

    And, while I'm leaning pretty strongly toward the rechargeable AA route, if I can do better with another option I'm certainly willing to consider it. (But my first "look" is into the AA options to see what I can in terms of whats out there.)

    In my area on the Texas Gulf Coast (and specifically where I live in terms of city/neighborhood), we've got very little besides flat terrain (not really any hills). I live in a very much urban area just outside Houston (no longer what I'd call the suburbs because of growth in our area, but still a an interesting mix of city streets (much newly paved, in a relative sense) and nearby rural routes that are somewhat accessible. But my night riding, as far as I can predict, will mostly all be on paved streets and walkways, with some areas lit and some not. So, I'd sure like to explore whatever options might work best for me with those few things in mind. But I'm not even sure at this point what other things I need to consider (in terms of lighting needs). So I think my brain is both opening up to possibilities and freezing up with all the options I've been considering the last few days.

    Too many possible choices and not enough personal frame of reference!
    Well if AA is the route you want then for the best bang for buck to use what you already have the 2 x L2D option from Fenix would serve you well. Just pick up a package of TwoFish bike adaptors on the same site and you get free s/h. Out the package you load your 2xAA into both lights and mount on your bike and have instant 175lm x 2 = 350lm for the same price of a Dinotte. Also you have the flexibility of using one light as a flashlight or to give to a friend. Because you have dual lights now (I use duals myslf but I us the http://www.planetbike.com Blaze 1/2W 2xAA which is a make shift TO-SEE light in a pinch but mainly they are my BE-SEEN lights tilted up and give the appearance from a distant of a motorbike which many drivers slow down a block or two in response to seeing it and to see WTF that is which means to me they notice me) should one unit fail you have redundancy of the lighting. Hard Adonized Aluminum (often called H3 or H-III) if I have the name right , means the coating of the light is extremely scratch resistant and pretty much the best coating you can get. Check out http://www.candlepowerforums.com and you'll see a ocean of people that own it and the reviews have been positive, reliable, durable, and a true preformer. You can't get a better crowd like the CPF people as they are lighting people and will in the name of testing/science abuse the hell of the light to see how well it survives in the worst case situation which you will rarely encounter.

    Dinotte is a winner as well in the eye candy but for bang for buck right now it seems 2 x L2D's gve you the most light for the same price as a Dinotte. I'm not knocking the Dinotte. I love the look of it as well but the extra cables I want to avoid having been down this route already. I am taking off about 5 items on the bike easy time I stop and go. Only thin now a days I want wired it seems is the helmet light which I can either carry my helmet in to places or lock it up on the bike and take the light on my body.

    Not sure how good you are with tools but if you get the parts (no elec background here but I'm building one slowly) you can make a DIY light which will clearly knock the other lights out the park in lighting power and you can use lower power for longer run time. 3xLED for good brightness giving the advancements of LED"s in the last few years. Here is the site for the DIY. http://myfwyc.org/bikeled/DIY_LED_Bi...ing_Guide.html


    When you are at CPF check out the BICYCLE forum in the TRANSPORTATION area. Also in the deals area you'll find CPF deals and discounts (whereI fond the 10% off Fenix).

    May the light me with you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bushman View Post
    ^ its quite simple, one must aquire one of everything!
    Yes, I can see that coming.

    My personal my history in tennis and photography (and as reflected by MOST serious amateur tennis players and ALL professional photographers) is to have at least TWO of everything... (and that is, of course, no joke).

    Given that I have almost nothing for biking (other than a 40-year-old Schwinn Collegiate 5-speed and a relatively new Raleigh F500 mountain bike), it looks like I have a true need for a spending spree. Only my banker and my wife would disagree.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zero_Enigma View Post
    Well if AA is the route you want then for the best bang for buck to use what you already have the 2 x L2D option from Fenix would serve you well. Just pick up a package of TwoFish bike adaptors on the same site and you get free s/h. Out the package you load your 2xAA into both lights and mount on your bike and have instant 175lm x 2 = 350lm for the same price of a Dinotte. Also you have the flexibility of using one light as a flashlight or to give to a friend. Because you have dual lights now (I use duals myslf but I us the http://www.planetbike.com Blaze 1/2W 2xAA which is a make shift TO-SEE light in a pinch but mainly they are my BE-SEEN lights tilted up and give the appearance from a distant of a motorbike which many drivers slow down a block or two in response to seeing it and to see WTF that is which means to me they notice me) should one unit fail you have redundancy of the lighting. Hard Adonized Aluminum (often called H3 or H-III) if I have the name right , means the coating of the light is extremely scratch resistant and pretty much the best coating you can get. Check out http://www.candlepowerforums.com and you'll see a ocean of people that own it and the reviews have been positive, reliable, durable, and a true preformer. You can't get a better crowd like the CPF people as they are lighting people and will in the name of testing/science abuse the hell of the light to see how well it survives in the worst case situation which you will rarely encounter.
    Excellent points and good suggestions. I certainly want to look into these options before I make a final decision. Thanks once again for all the pointers in directions to look and things to consider.

    Quote Originally Posted by Zero_Enigma View Post
    Dinotte is a winner as well in the eye candy but for bang for buck right now it seems 2 x L2D's gve you the most light for the same price as a Dinotte. I'm not knocking the Dinotte. I love the look of it as well but the extra cables I want to avoid having been down this route already. I am taking off about 5 items on the bike easy time I stop and go. Only thin now a days I want wired it seems is the helmet light which I can either carry my helmet in to places or lock it up on the bike and take the light on my body.
    I hear you on the extra wires/cables thing. There's already enough of that going around and I don't really have a compelling desire to add ANY extra wires to a bike that I don't have to have. The idea of something that is self-contained and an excellent performer is a very attractive idea to me. Anything that leans toward simplicity and efficiency coupled with great performance is what I want to consider first.

    What I see as a main problem with a lot of the really desirable bike lights is the cost. And while I want to buy the best I can, I am definitely limited from a budget standpoint. I see why so many folks want to explore other equivalent options that get them the same (or better) results without paying higher, niche-based prices (and specialty bike lights seem to fall into that niche category -- if you want something really nice that's specifically designed for bike use, you're going to pay for it). But using a creative approach might (like you're suggesting) might easily produce more bang for the buck. Like you say, looking into the candlepowerforums sounds like an excellent route to explore for tapping into exceptional levels of knowledge on this very subject.

    Great stuff, Zero_Enigma...

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    Well if AA is the route you want then for the best bang for buck to use what you already have the 2 x L2D option from Fenix would serve you well.
    Hey, I have another question for you, Zero_Enigma.

    Got any idea of what the difference would be between the L2D CE (at $56.50) and L2D Premium 100 (at $62.50)?

    But also...you make a good point about the CR123A batteries in rechargeable form (and getting the charger) in terms of going with the P2D (or P3D). That could be a legitimate route for me, too. It strays from the AA rechargeable concept I'm first considering...but not too far.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zero_Enigma View Post
    Also check out Fenix Lights and in thier pre-order section. Use the code " pre-order10 " for a 10% discount. Thankfully I found out about this coupon code as it'll help save some money to put towards batteries.
    I haven't actually ordered anything yet, but I was playing around with the discount code and couldn't get it to recognize "pre-order10" but finally figured out it was supposed to be "preorder10" (without the hyphen).

    Just an FYI for anyone trying the code.

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    Quote Originally Posted by varuscelli View Post
    Got any idea of what the difference would be between the L2D CE (at $56.50) and L2D Premium 100 (at $62.50)?
    I did end up finding this info on the L2D Premium 100 (which seems to be more than is actually viewable on the Fenix site (?)).

    http://www.torchworld.com.au/catalog...roducts_id=409

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    Just as a follow-up to my inquiries about the DiNotte lights (DiNotte 200L and the DiNotte Ultra Tail Light) that I wanted to order without batteries or chargers.

    DiNotte contacted me with a price at just under $300 for the two lights without batteries/chargers.

    GeoMan gave it a good effort and tried to do a deal for me, but couldn't acquire the lights for me without the chargers and batteries (tried, but couldn't -- at least not at this time). But the price for the two lights with chargers and batteries from GeoMan pretty much matched the direct DiNotte price for the lights without chargers and batteries (just under $300 for both lights with chargers and batteries). So, for basically the same price from GeoMan you could get both lights and have two chargers and eight rechargeable batteries. So, you want the best deal, go through GeoMan as the vendor and you'll get it.

    As a side note, I got quick, courteous, and informative follow-ups to both my inquires (from both DiNotte and GeoMan).

    At this point, though, as much as I covet the DiNotte lights, I'm probably going with a Fenix setup for my front lights. No wires, just self-contained lights that will be easy for me to deal with. However, I'm still very tempted by the DiNotte Ultra Tail Light -- although a Fenix equivalent with proper diffuser/gel attachment might serve me as well (if that's an option (since, once again, it would give me a wireless setup).

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    I don't know what the deal with the wires are? They are super short and IMO the ease of the O-ring mounting makes up for the small wire.

    Love my Dinottes!

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    I had recently bought the Dinotte tail light and 200L from Geoman. I haven't used the 200L yet, but the tail lights are very bright as per most of the reviews here on this forum.
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]2007 Cannondale CAAD9 Optimo 3

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    Quote Originally Posted by derath View Post
    I don't know what the deal with the wires are? They are super short and IMO the ease of the O-ring mounting makes up for the small wire.

    Love my Dinottes!
    Oh, the wires and extra attachments are not that big of a deal, but the idea of simplifying things does have a certain level of appeal. Seems to me that (depending on your setup) self-contained units would have certain advantages like going on and coming off the bike a bit more quickly and easily and storing a bit more easily. Not big things, but somewhat desirable for certain people or at certain times (at least, I sense a few advantages).

    Besides, I don't want my bike to end up looking too much like one of my cameras...



    This one actually requires a kick stand, unless I happen to have a convenient curb or tree to park it up against...
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    I understand. But I wouldn't compare the dinotte cables to your camera. All I am saying is that for me the short cable is offset by the awesome mounting method of the Dinotte.

    I may get a Fenix too. I like flashlights.

    -D

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    Quote Originally Posted by derath View Post
    I understand. But I wouldn't compare the dinotte cables to your camera. All I am saying is that for me the short cable is offset by the awesome mounting method of the Dinotte.

    I may get a Fenix too. I like flashlights.

    -D
    Sorry, the camera comment was meant more as a joke than an actual comparison. With the camera I obviously have a lot more (and longer) cable involved in a much smaller amount of overall space to connect external power source to flash and flash to camera.

    But still...in a sense...the comparison is not outrageously far off. When I remove the external power source (the big black Quantum battery) and the cord that is needed to connect the power source to the flash, all is have do to is use rechargeable AA batteries or alkalines. I don't get as quick a recycle time, but I get lighter and less cumbersome overall rig. With the DiNotte's compared to the Fenix solution, each DiNotte is going to have two connection points (battery back and light) and each Fenix is going to have one connection point (just the light). True, the DiNotte is simpler looking in terms of the light connection, but you still have two things to connect for DiNotte light (and the connecting cord between them).

    And don't get me wrong about the DiNotte lights -- that's why I started the thread since they were just about the most appealing option to me. They sound fantastic and I'd love to own a set (and might, eventually). And once again, I don't see the cords as being that big deal to work with. Heck, I'd love to see that big and bad 500L in action (see it in action on the front of my own bike, that is... )

    I've got the feeling I might end up with the DiNotte tail light and a couple of Fenix lights for my headlights. And I'm still undecided about a helmet light.

    But I could do something like the Fenix man does...





    (Hope those are fair game to post here (?). My apologies, if not.)

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