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    What is the best AA head light?

    What is the best AA head light?

    I want something that I can use with AA rechargeables that will last at least 3-4 hours. I need it to be AA because I would like to use this while some light touring. Also brighter is better, because roads aren't so good. I looked into the DiNotte 200 but sadly it doesn't last long enough. I'm also not afraid of some DIY, so if you have any good links send them my way. Lastly oes anyone have any experience with the Blackburn Voyager 4.0, it looks promising.

    Thank you guys for your help.

    -Jai

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    get the dinnotte...stash some other batteries in your jersey
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    Quote Originally Posted by Plow13 View Post
    get the dinnotte...stash some other batteries in your jersey

    Well since it is also for some over night touring, I would like to carry 9-16 hours with me. I'm already planning on carrying alot of extra rechargables. Also, since it requires long-lasting rechargeables I wouldn't be able to walk into a store and grab some. The Dinnotte wouldn't work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by I922sParkCir View Post
    Well since it is also for some over night touring, I would like to carry 9-16 hours with me. I'm already planning on carrying alot of extra rechargables. Also, since it requires long-lasting rechargeables I wouldn't be able to walk into a store and grab some. The Dinnotte wouldn't work.

    Thank You,
    -Jai
    The Dinotte 200L-AA's holder uses four AA cells. If you are handy, you can build up another battery holder that uses four D cells. A NiMH D cell typically has about 10000mAh of capacity (vs. 2500mAh for a NiMH AA cell) so this D battery pack will last approximately 4 times longer than the original AA battery pack, or maybe even slightly longer because its discharge rate is a smaller percentage of its capacity. The only problem with this solution is that you'll either need a specialized charger, or you'll end up carrying a large D cell charger instead of the diminutive AA cell charger.

    If that is too much of a hassle, just get a bunch of the AA battery holders filled with the highest capacity AA batteries you can find. The holders are very easy to swap and the Dinotte even has a low battery warning.

    Actually, if you're looking at Dinottes, and need a hassle-free 16 hour run time, get two of their 4-cell Li-ion battery packs together with the corresponding 200L (Li-ion 200L is different from AA NiMH 200L). This will give you a total run time of 16 hours with only one battery switch. This is not a standard package, but Dinotte is reputed to be quite flexible about this kind of thing; you'll only have to email them to ask.

    Have you looked into a hub generator? A hub generator coupled with an efficient LED head is what a lot of the hard-core randonneurs use. Then you'll only need a small light source for when you stop.
    Last edited by Mr. Fly; 10-27-07 at 08:57 AM.

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    Senior Member I922sParkCir's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Fly View Post
    The Dinotte 200L-AA's holder uses four AA cells. If you are handy, you can build up another battery holder that uses four D cells. A NiMH D cell typically has about 10000mAh of capacity (vs. 2500mAh for a NiMH AA cell) so this D battery pack will last approximately 4 times longer than the original AA battery pack, or maybe even slightly longer because its discharge rate is a smaller percentage of its capacity. The only problem with this solution is that you'll either need a specialized charger, or you'll end up carrying a large D cell charger instead of the diminutive AA cell charger.
    That is a great idea. Do you know how I would hack that together?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Fly View Post
    If that is too much of a hassle, just get a bunch of the AA battery holders filled with the highest capacity AA batteries you can find. The holders are very easy to swap and the Dinotte even has a low battery warning.
    It might be but I'll look into it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Fly View Post
    Have you looked into a hub generator? A hub generator coupled with an efficient LED head is what a lot of the hard-core randonneurs use. Then you'll only need a small light source for when you stop.
    I looked into them, but I want something that is really bright, and is good for everyday use.

    Thank you,
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    The Dinotte uses a standard 9 volt battery type connector. So you can make your own battery holder quite easily. Dinotte would be happy to throw in a couple more holders, or you can get them at Radio Shack. Enough sets of rechargeables and a fast charger would work.

    None of these LED lights will run very long with alkaline batteries, I think only about half the time of a NiMH rechargeable. Lithium AA batteries will run 40% (I think) longer than rechargeables, but they are expensive.

    Take a look at candlepowerforums.com Those guys are flashlight fanatics. They could help you get the long run times.

    Check my big Dinotte - Fenix review I just posted. I got 3 hours on my Dinotte with 2650 rechargables. I only tested it once, so far.
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    Quote Originally Posted by I922sParkCir View Post
    Well since it is also for some over night touring, I would like to carry 9-16 hours with me. I'm already planning on carrying alot of extra rechargables. Also, since it requires long-lasting rechargeables I wouldn't be able to walk into a store and grab some. The Dinnotte wouldn't work.

    Thank You,
    -Jai
    You can use Lithium AAs in a pinch, and those are available pretty much everywhere. Well, maybe not at Bubba's Gas and Bait in Chugwater, Wyoming, but any 'mart or chain drug store will have them.

    Really, your best bet(if you want a light you can actually SEE with) is a DiNotte 200L and some extra rechargeables. All other AA lights are more "be seen" lights.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Schwinnrider View Post
    Really, your best bet(if you want a light you can actually SEE with) is a DiNotte 200L and some extra rechargeables. All other AA lights are more "be seen" lights.
    You guys are right. I'll get the DiNotte. I'll just figure out a way to rig it with 8 AAs or 4 Ds.
    Thank you guys.

    -Jai

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    Quote Originally Posted by I922sParkCir View Post
    You guys are right. I'll get the DiNotte. I'll just figure out a way to rig it with 8 AAs or 4 Ds.
    Thank you guys.

    -Jai
    Here is a 4D holder from Radio Shack:


    http://www.radioshack.com/product/in...entPage=search

    Or in another configuration (2x2)

    http://www.radioshack.com/product/in...entPage=search

    Both use the same 9V connector as Dinotte so should be plug-n-play.

    Radio Shack also carries the same 4AA holder that Dinotte ships with their lights, as well as other options (including 8AA, etc). Check them out:

    http://www.radioshack.com/search/ind...&kwCatId=&pg=1

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    You might contact Rob at Dinotte. Dinotte used to offer either C or D, I can't remember which, battery case holders. They still had some last year so you might get lucky and get some thrown in the deal if they still have them. They have not been on the website for a long time so don't let that discourage you.
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    Get the Dinotte. I bought the 200L on Friday and it arrived Saturday! this company rocks for they also included spare battery holders.
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