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    Thumbs up is the Dinotte Tail Light 'all that ?'

    well, here is my review. I picked up a 140 L and did some rides.

    I ride at night through Woburn, Ma., and Arlington, Ma. Do the 'NEBC hill loop' a lot.
    Anyone who knows this area understands it is mighty congested with cagers
    who zip past and leave little room for error. And a lot of streets are narrow.

    Anyhow, I had been using a Planet Bike SF for a while, and this did have a better
    effect on cagers than my previous blinkies. I knew I was seen better, but didn't
    have everyone give me space. Still had plenty of idiots buzz me. Eh, it is part of
    riding a bike.

    So...I got the Dinotte because I got so sick of seeing all the posts raving about it.

    I did my standard 2 1/2 hr ride in total dark, did the loop, and buzzed around
    on some streets.

    And every single cager gave me a lot of space.

    This is unheard of. In fact the very first cars passing me, I realized something
    was a lot different. It was fun to ride at night with traffic for the first time.

    Even the punk high schoolers who are too cool, they gave me a decent amount of room.

    I used it in steady mode, middle setting. And when I got to the very busy intersections I flipped
    it to high mode for a while, until I got away and then put it back to middle.

    Flashing would be a daytime only thing. At night, flashing is just way too much. It is far easier to judge distance for a cager when the light is steady. I tested this myself by setting the light on a railing and
    driving back and forth and checking out all the modes.

    Steady is all you need. It looks like a motorcycle or moped taillight but brighter, and
    as a cager I felt that something big and heavy was there, and give it some room... something
    the PB SuperFlash doesn't project.

    Anyhow, I used energizer 2650mah batteries and it lasted 2 1/2 hours at 40 deg F easily and
    had room to spare. middle steady mode still projects a serious beam. High is plain offensive, which
    is why I just used it on intersections where there were a lot of street lights and coffee shops and
    chances to get squished, so I would stand out from the clutter.

    damn ! if any of you are on the fence about the Dinotte 140L, just get one already. It is 110%
    worth it. I have never been so un-stressed from a high traffic night ride in my entire life.

    I recommend middle strength steady mode for night riding with this puppy...switch to high at big intersections or on really narrow streets.

    seriously, ALL cagers gave me enough room where I felt at ease and felt like they really were trying
    to avoid me instead of buzz me. The only time anyone did come close was coming up to intersections
    where there were streetlights and everyone was going slow and it was really safe...you know, normal
    stuff.

    I also did some minor trail runs (part of my way to get to the loop) with the mount on my seatpost. the light stayed put easily. I don't think I will rampage on trails with this light because you don't need it in the
    woods anyway, but the mount does behave well on teh rooty.

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    ...like Jessica Alba!
    Last edited by flipped4bikes; 10-31-07 at 09:11 AM.
    Every time we let a vehicle pass there is a little bit of compromise. But compromise allows the city to function and allows cyclists to function in the city. The trick is not to eliminate compromise but to learn how to work safely within it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by edzo View Post

    Anyhow, I had been using a Planet Bike SF for a while, and this did have a better
    effect on cagers than my previous blinkies. I knew I was seen better, but didn't
    have everyone give me space. Still had plenty of idiots buzz me. Eh, it is part of
    riding a bike.

    So...I got the Dinotte because I got so sick of seeing all the posts raving about it.
    Good to hear how well this light works. I ordered the tail light Sunday so it should be coming in the mail any day now. I can't wait. I also have two planet bike superflashes. I am wondering if the dinotte will be so strong that it will wash out the superflashes rendering them almost useless?

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    Quote Originally Posted by freedomguy22 View Post
    Good to hear how well this light works. I ordered the tail light Sunday so it should be coming in the mail any day now. I can't wait. I also have two planet bike superflashes. I am wondering if the dinotte will be so strong that it will wash out the superflashes rendering them almost useless?
    I am pretty sure you will not need the superflashes at all. it won't help. you will see what I mean when you
    slap that dinotte in place

    shut them off and only use them if your dinotte stops working.

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    In my first ride with my 140L I noticed the opposite. A few cars seemed to come closer to me than normal with my 140L on compared to my PB SF.

    I think it was a case of where they were going to prove a point to me that just because I have a carnival light on my bike, they were not giving me any special considerations

    That aside, it is a Killer light!
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    Quote Originally Posted by ViperZ View Post
    In my first ride with my 140L I noticed the opposite. A few cars seemed to come closer to me than normal with my 140L on compared to my PB SF.

    I think it was a case of where they were going to prove a point to me that just because I have a carnival light on my bike, they were not giving me any special considerations

    That aside, it is a Killer light!
    That is when a good flashlight with a red filter may come in handy...take the filter off and sunshine...

    j/k


    Seriously, is there a flash light with a red filter that would be about as bright for less money?

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    Quote Originally Posted by freedomguy22 View Post
    Good to hear how well this light works. I ordered the tail light Sunday so it should be coming in the mail any day now. I can't wait. I also have two planet bike superflashes. I am wondering if the dinotte will be so strong that it will wash out the superflashes rendering them almost useless?
    If you have the Dinotte on constant high, yup it will wash out the SFs very easily.
    Every time we let a vehicle pass there is a little bit of compromise. But compromise allows the city to function and allows cyclists to function in the city. The trick is not to eliminate compromise but to learn how to work safely within it.

    --Robert Hurst

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    Quote Originally Posted by ggg300 View Post
    That is when a good flashlight with a red filter may come in handy...take the filter off and sunshine...

    j/k


    Seriously, is there a flash light with a red filter that would be about as bright for less money?
    The Fenix line of high powered flashlights have a red filter available for them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ggg300 View Post
    That is when a good flashlight with a red filter may come in handy...take the filter off and sunshine...

    j/k


    Seriously, is there a flash light with a red filter that would be about as bright for less money?
    You can try this.
    http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.4896

    with this

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    A white LED with a red lens won't be near as powerful as an actual red LED of the same power. It might be useful, but it won't be nearly as bright
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    Quote Originally Posted by ViperZ View Post
    In my first ride with my 140L I noticed the opposite. A few cars seemed to come closer to me than normal with my 140L on compared to my PB SF.

    I think it was a case of where they were going to prove a point to me that just because I have a carnival light on my bike, they were not giving me any special considerations

    That aside, it is a Killer light!
    They had to get close to see if you were the mother ship.







































    or me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tdister View Post
    A white LED with a red lens won't be near as powerful as an actual red LED of the same power. It might be useful, but it won't be nearly as bright
    +1. Also need to get good sidespill. Those high-power LED flashlights are really intense but really focused too.

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    This light is amazing...the 140L is so bright Chuck Norris installed one as his taillight

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2manybikes View Post
    They had to get close to see if you were the mother ship.







































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    Slightly off-topic, I rode behind two PB Superflashes last night, the first ones I've seen in real life. I was seriously unimpressed. Maybe I was expecting too much. I dunno. This was in a group ride of 67 bikes, all except for two or three with blinkies. Every blinkie you've ever seen. Except the DiNotte. Mine is in the mail...
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    Lucky for me, I work at a library and bike to work.

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    I use a Planet Bike Super flash everyday for my commute. It's no 140L, however it also does the job pretty well for the price.

    For price and convenience it's a great light.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ViperZ View Post
    I use a Planet Bike Super flash everyday for my commute. It's no 140L, however it also does the job pretty well for the price.

    For price and convenience it's a great light.
    I agree -- for sub-$40 lights, it's pretty rockin'. The optic setup they use on that main LED sends a lot of light.

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    Oh yeah -- I'm way impressed with my new DiNotte taillight, too. Excellent little light. I don't have much seatpost on my road bike, so I've mounted mine upside-down to peek from under the seatbag.

    (yes, my "race-ready" CAAD8 is Fred'ed up a bit.. lol )

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    Not at all, IMO. Considering the long battery life of the PB SF I'll keep mine on my bike in case I ever run out of battery with the Dinotte.
    And both run at the same time will have car-folks thinking that there is an emergency response team ahead

    Quote Originally Posted by freedomguy22 View Post
    I am wondering if the dinotte will be so strong that it will wash out the superflashes rendering them almost useless?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ziemas View Post
    The Fenix line of high powered flashlights have a red filter available for them.
    Nowhere near as bright. The Dinotte on medium is brighter and casts a much wider beam than a Fenix L2D on turbo with a red filter. Now anyone have comparison pictures of the XLS Tail light?

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    You could just have your two PBs pointing sideways.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BarracksSi View Post
    I agree -- for sub-$40 lights, it's pretty rockin'. The optic setup they use on that main LED sends a lot of light.
    $14 for mine at MEC

    I also like the Planet Bike Blinky 7 as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ViperZ View Post
    $14 for mine at MEC
    Right; I said "sub-$40" to include all those other lights that are within double the PB's price range.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BarracksSi View Post
    Right; I said "sub-$40" to include all those other lights that are within double the PB's price range.
    Right you are
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    Quote Originally Posted by ggg300 View Post
    Seriously, is there a flash light with a red filter that would be about as bright for less money?
    Not a red filter but a red LED for a minimag.

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