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Old 11-07-07, 09:37 PM   #26
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I'm curious what the battery voltage and Ah is on the USE unit.

I'm wondering if there is a way to make your own battery and shove in there as a spare. While a self contained unit is clean looking one of the major downfalls I can see if they propritary battery inside and changing it later when it dies out. You'll be paying a lot if the battery is messed up later. With a external battery you can buy another battery from places like BatterySpace and you're good to go again on the cheap.
I think that's covered too. Cause if the battery dies, it can run off an external power source, so it just becomes a standard light with an external battery pack. It has to come apart right? I mean, they can't just weld it shut.
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Slvoid is selling his lighting system for $200? A L&M Arc? I'm interested!! please pm me!
Sorry.. that sold in like, 2 days. With free overnight shipping too cause I shipped it at work.
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Sorry.. that sold in like, 2 days. With free overnight shipping too cause I shipped it at work.
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Actually it looks about the size of the Planet Bike Alias HID... Which is about the size of a Red Bull drink. The 600L is much smaller, and the 200L is minuscule

I sure love the convenience of my Alias HID for commuting. It's quick mount/dismount is invaluable.
I just checked and it's larger than the 200L but only a few mm larger than the 600L.
Must...resist....
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I just checked and it's larger than the 200L but only a few mm larger than the 600L.
Must...resist....
No.... don't resist, just do it


The USE is said to be 46mm x 106mm (diameter x length)

The HID Alias is 47mm x 150mm

The 600L is 40mm x 65mm

The 200L is 28mm x 55mm
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Ah but it's 150 grams lighter than the alias, runs longer, and is brighter and more versatile! Ha!
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Ah but it's 150 grams lighter than the alias, runs longer, and is brighter and more versatile! Ha!
The XLS Extreme Kicks the USE, is way more versatile of a system, plus I have 7 hours worth of run time.... Your point being?

The Alias does the job very well, plus I have 2 batteries already for it, for +6 hours of runtime, and it's paid for. So I'm not punting it any time soon.

My XLS Extreme is just for fun.

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Ah ha, not lighter and self contained though.

I gotta keep the sleek uncluttered look of my track bike sleek.

My wallet is hurting...
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Old 11-08-07, 10:40 PM   #34
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Ah ha, not lighter and self contained though.

I gotta keep the sleek uncluttered look of my track bike sleek.

My wallet is hurting...
Well I suppose beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Personally I think the Use is a bit on the ugly side, aesthetics and all, so any sleekness it has is taken away for it's homely design. The Alias is much better looking, and works just as well, even if not as bright, it's bright enough.

I think the Dual XLS Extreme looks wicked! Putting out 1200 lumens with a decent run time requires getting battery weight off the bars. Regardless, whats it matter what I have or use....

Like I said, just do it
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I'll post a report.
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I'll post a report.
Nice! Like I said before it looks to be a killer system..
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Wow, as bright as my HID but for $450 I could have bought two of my HIDs
(725+725 lumen = 1450 lumen) and each runs for over four hours and have
50 bucks left over for a nice dinner somewhere.

BUT, you cannot deny the increasing excellence of led lights like this. I really
want to see if it lives up to its claims or if it's actually dimmer than stated.

I could always get a Trailtech 30 watt for 1850 lumens for $309 or $254 if I
just want to buy the light to use with my existing battery setup.
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Ok so the bottom line here is what.... ? Has anyone been using any of the USE lights ? I really would be interested in what you think. I don't care about the cost so much as the products performance. I don't want anything hanging like a battery pack. I have an off road bike already set up for that and I just want a clean long running road setup.
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A long time ago the early USE lights were tested in a comparison test by Cycling plus magazine. I think they were earlier models and are not on the market now. But, the magazine testers had the typical LED bicycle light makers claim problem. If you jam a light meter up to the lens it will read the claimed amount of lumens but the beam for riding was lousy. Some of the USE lights have been compared to other lights in some of the beam comparison shots posted on the forums. I think the links are on the first page of the "light selection guide" thread. I will try and post the link here shortly. The results were not too hot.

Edit: Cycling plus has now (2007) rated them as the best. Things change in just a year.

http://www.use1.com/exposure/

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Ok so the bottom line here is what.... ? Has anyone been using any of the USE lights ? I really would be interested in what you think. I don't care about the cost so much as the products performance. I don't want anything hanging like a battery pack. I have an off road bike already set up for that and I just want a clean long running road setup.
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Is it in yet?
I dunno, I might have to step up...
Someone strap 2 of these to their bike: 7000 lumens.
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Old 11-20-07, 11:05 PM   #43
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I just got this. It's good. Don't have any beam shots yet, but on my ride in the mid-peninsula foothills, works like a champ. I have to dial it down to the middle (480 lumens) setting with oncoming traffic. Blasted down ~ 25-30mph on the descents no problem.

The battery-pack free design is what has sold me on this. Coupled w/ my 2 L2D Fenix lights, just under 1200 lumens if needed.

2 gripes however:

1. The light is nice and focused, however, my old halogen 10W bulb had a nice side spill that allowed you to see the light from the side (good for commuting). This lighting system is only effective head-on.

2. The button is a little firm and finicky. Annoying when you have to cycle through the 3 lighting modes during a ride.
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I think that's covered too. Cause if the battery dies, it can run off an external power source, so it just becomes a standard light with an external battery pack. It has to come apart right? I mean, they can't just weld it shut.
If the internal battery is at less than 50% charge when the piggyback battery is attached, the high beam is not available for use. I got that out of the manual on-line at their website.
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I dunno, I might have to step up...
Someone strap 2 of these to their bike: 7000 lumens.
I thought you wanted something sleek...?


Strap'em on!
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^^^^^^^^^^

Strap em on and point them at Rhode Island. Then Saskatoon.





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