TryingMyBest

The Garmin Edge series so far has a 2-year product cycle.

Edge 305 - release August 31, 2005
Edge 705 - release August 29, 2007
New Edge - release August 2009?

Are there rumors, info, talks of a successor? I have the 305 and am thinking of getting the 705, but I want to know what's on the horizon.

I searched 705 rumors and didn't find anything.

Unknown Cyclist

A replacement for the 705 could mean a price drop for the 705

I might be able to afford one if that happens.....

TryingMyBest

Exactly... but I'm curious to see what kind of upgrades they may offer (customizable fonts? bigger screen?) and if they are planning on releasing something this year or not.

I'd imagine there will be a latte dispensing accessory.

Unknown Cyclist

I think they should fit a solar panel or a small prop on the front so it can be self powered.



oh yeah, and a rear facing camera so you can use it as a rear view mirror

and perhaps TV reception...

andr0id

I'd just be happy if they get the bugs in the 705 worked out. It will be the last Garmin product I buy if they don't.

Unknown Cyclist

Hi andr0id,

I thought they had ?

What bugs are left ?

rodrigaj

I would be happy if someone else (Polar?) became a competitor.

Garmin has had no competition in the HRM/GPS/Bicycle market.

The only Garmin product that I will ever own is my Garmin Edge 305. I'm on my 4th one. Replacements covered by the warranty, only to have them fail again. Sure they have great customer service, but I would rather have reliability.

I'll stop here... don't let me get started on the mount or the glued together case or the lame TC software.

Unknown Cyclist

Hmmm.....

What's wrong with the mount and case ?

What's TC software ?

al-wagner

The mount can break if you a too rough on it.
Because the case is glued you can't take it apart to see how it works.
The TC software is Training Center that came with the unit. It is not the best but there is always one better. I hear that SportTracks is about the best for a PC but I don't like because it is not user friendly.

rodrigaj

Mount: https://www.bikeforums.net/road-cycling/553893-lost-my-garmin-705-today.html

Case: the two halves are used to apply pressure to the battery spring connection. The glue fatigues under normal ride conditions and the unit shuts down. It is my understanding that Garmin corrected this on the Edge 705 by using screws, but I have no intention of spending $500 to find out.

TC: Training Center. This software is necessary to upload and download data files and while there are other, better software that you can get, you still have to use TC to talk to the device.

I love and hate my Garmin Edge 305. I wished for a competitor because that would force Garmin out of their complacency. Perhaps no one could do it better, but I would love to see another choice.

andr0id

Nope, still losing rides or laps from rides as of FW 2.70 and 2.80. Typical symptom is they will show up in the Unit's history, but cannot be uploaded to the PC as a TCX file. Often a chkdsk of the media will indicate that the files are corrupt. Only thing that will straighten it out is a hard reset and then the rides are lost permanently as they were never converted to TCX from the laps data.

As a SW developer, I can say that file corruption on an embedded system is just plane sloppy, inexcusable work. It's like shooting yourself in the foot, nobody to blame but your own stupidity.

Unknown Cyclist

You've convinced me, I'm in no hurry to buy one.

o'war1

In my experience, this is not entirely true. I've twice encountered a failure to convert to TCX files (one for a race and one on an 178 mile epic ride!) and in both cases I was able to salvage all the data. Helpful instructions for how to achieve this can be found in this thread: https://www.bikeforums.net/showthread...=457472&page=4 -- Hunt-man and umd are particularly helpful. My general approach was to interrupt the "saving history" upon plugging the 705 into the usb and running a disk scan with the option to fix errors. After dismounting and remounting the 705 a TCX file was successfully created albeit with several errors. Here is where umd's tutorial on diagnosing and fixing XML files comes in handy. With a little patience and persistance, all was recovered!
Still, I agree that the problem of file corruption gives a very poor impression and it is unacceptable to make the consumer jump through such ridiculous hoops to save and analyze their data. After these two experiences, I chose to revert back to version 2.6 and will hold out on the new 2.8 until others report consistent, good experiences.

Griffin2020

I do not believe that there is a new productin the pipe. If there were, the Garmin-SlipStream team would be riding with it, and all of the riders still have Edge 705s on their bikes.

TryingMyBest

Ah, that's the kind of inside information that helps me. Well major bummer.

Pugdawg1

I used a 205 for 3 years, wore the thing out. I used it for my runs and my rides. When I run I have a pouch strapped to my arm that I keep it in. Then got a 305... used the same way, never ever an issue. Never broke a mount. Recently I was surprised by being given a garmin 705. Pretty nifty, but only have had a chance to try it out once so far. So for this girl, garmin has done good.

quidquam

With Garmin using Google's new Android OS/Platform for a new phone and their new handheld, I wonder if an Android-powered cycling computer is in the works. That'd be pretty awesome for us tinkerers. I don't own a 305 or a 705, but can anyone tell me whether it runs Windows or Linux? If the latter, we will probably see an Android version!

@rodrigaj, I definitely agree. I'd love to see some competition in this market. If the powermeters, cadence and wheelspeed sensors used bluetooth, most mobile phones could plug in nicely as cycling computers. And since I bring mine on rides for emergencies anyway, it'd save weight.

akatsuki

I have both a Forerunner 405 and Edge 705. While they are great, they are already looking primitive compared to what is possible.

The moment someone comes out with a Ant+Sport attachment for the iPhone/iPod Touch and appropriate software, I'll move off of the Garmin stuff.

chuckb

Bingo. Someone needs to make this as the cycling analog of the Nike iPod attachment. At the moment, the closest thing is Ascent Mobile (see the app store), but the Ant+Sport is the clear next step. The only remaining issue will be battery life on the iPhone; it may require an external battery for long rides with GPS and everything running all the time.

smoothisfast

They also need to make a good cycle mount and a screen that will work well in sunlight for the iPhone.

For the new Edge 805 (the name makes sense), They should use a better algorithm for calorie count like the 405cx. The 705 does not use heart rate information for the math.

chuckb

This doesn't fix the screen in sunlight issue, but it's a good handlebar mount. I wince when I go over bumps, but it has survived a century ride without dislodging the iPhone....


https://ram-mount.com/NewProducts/iPh...1/Default.aspx

donrhummy

Any news on whether this is in the works?

schellter

Garmin is offering a $50 rebate on the 705 (good through April 30) this may indicate they are trying to close out the 705

TryingMyBest

Interesting. This is basically May, right? So it's summer 2010 right now... So would this be true:

Edge 305 - release August 31, 2005
Edge 705 - release August 29, 2007
New Edge - release August 2010?

I wonder what goodies they'll have. Hopefully it's really is new and not a small improvement. As in a lot thinner, lighter, etc.

adamrice 

Something like Pedalbrain or Digifit?