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Old 04-02-08, 12:54 PM   #1
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3 lights to choose from

I'm considering purchase of one of these three headlights, all are:
--$200-300 range
--led
--300gm weight range
--Li-Ion battery
--fast charger.

Hard to make this choice.

Anyone have any real-world experience with these or just have suggestions regarding these or similar models?

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CygoLite Trident 3xLED Li- Ion battery 290ghttp://www.cygolite.com/products/new/TridenX/TridenX_Lion.html

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NiteRider MiNewt.X2 LED Li-Ion battery 232g
http://www.niterider.com/prod_minewtx2.shtml

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http://www.bikelights.com/Products/Stella180L.htm
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Old 04-02-08, 03:55 PM   #2
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Go for NiMH version of the Cygolite Trident. It's a few grams heavier but you get better runtime.
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Old 04-02-08, 04:16 PM   #3
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I have the MinewtX2 and don't know the others. It's about as advertised and I think I paid about $160 on sale. The battery cable is very short, requiring close mounting such as on the stem, unless you buy the expensive extender. The power button is hard to actuate with gloves. When the battery dies, replacements are very expensive ($150). The amount of light, while probably close to advertised, is not adequate for fast riding, old person vision, urban safety, etc, IMO. At night I supplement it with a 100 lumen headlamp and a Fenix 170 lumen flashlight, and strobe one or more lights. I thought about the Cygolite, as the advertised output seemed nice, but it was more money and not on sale.
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For $150, you could get 2 FENIX lights, a good charger as well as the batts. Good enough for any riding situation. No cables to speak of, and with the velcro handlebar mounts, takes all of 2 seconds to unstrap the FENIX from your bike and drop into your pocket.
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Old 04-02-08, 05:07 PM   #5
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the dinotte's are really nice, have you considered any of them?????

http://store.dinottelighting.com/sha...unt2=150764107
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For $150, you could get 2 FENIX lights, a good charger as well as the batts. Good enough for any riding situation. No cables to speak of, and with the velcro handlebar mounts, takes all of 2 seconds to unstrap the FENIX from your bike and drop into your pocket.
+1. I have Fenix and am glad I do. One on the helmet will fit most cyclists' needs and one on the bar will fulfill the rest.

I don't have Dinotte's, but wish I did. I have not been to their website lately, but the Li-ion version with dual 200L headlights and the 140L tailight used to be $429. Best value combination in cycling IMHO. This would be cheaper and better than what I eventually ended up with. Upgradeable, too.
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The 3 lights you have listed all use "older" LED's. Don't use a flashlight. That is like bringing a knife to a gunfight! For less money you can get the very latest in LED technology. Up to ~520 lumens in a lighthead that measures only 3/4" x 1 1/2" x 1 1/2". 173 grams total weight of lighthead and battery.

Amoeba bike light
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I won this light set from Bike Journal.
The quality is unbeatable. 3 year warranty.
http://www.vetta.com/Product_Lights_MicroLux-tsl.htm
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A 180 lumen Fenix flashlight mounted on your helmet will meet most road cyclists needs, period. It will light up both lanes of a 2-lane country road and has a bright center beam for lighting the way. A second one mounted on the handlebars makes an incredible combination. A buddy of mine is retired and has been riding all his life. He was not aware of the Fenix option until I showed it to him. He bought two and loves them. His budget prior to that was $300 to $400 for a new light set and was pleased that he could spend less than half that much, including a new battery charger. See the many previous Fenix posts for details on models and helmet/bar mount options. Solid 2-hour runtime on 2-AA batteries and it is easy to carry spares. I was skeptical at first but first hand experience convinced me. Seeing is believing!

Absent that, Dinotte is the most cost-effective and upgradeable quality bicycle light specific solution on the market with great customer service.

BTW - I have viewed the Dinotte's and Niterider and L&M options in person that you are considering and compared them and other models to the Fenix as well.
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Pretty happy with my minewtx2.
Small, good runtimes, fast charging, bright enough for a main commuting light and a great helmet light for off road.

Review of that and the stella here.
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For $150, you could get 2 FENIX lights, a good charger as well as the batts. Good enough for any riding situation. No cables to speak of, and with the velcro handlebar mounts, takes all of 2 seconds to unstrap the FENIX from your bike and drop into your pocket.
Absolutely! I wish I would have gone this route long ago before wasting money on anything else. I use one on the bar, the other on the helmet.
Like dekindy says, an incredible combo.
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For $150, you could get 2 FENIX lights, a good charger as well as the batts. Good enough for any riding situation. No cables to speak of, and with the velcro handlebar mounts, takes all of 2 seconds to unstrap the FENIX from your bike and drop into your pocket.
+1

They are useful around the house too.
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I'm considering purchase of one of these three headlights, all are:
--$200-300 range
--led
--300gm weight range
--Li-Ion battery
--fast charger.

Hard to make this choice.

Anyone have any real-world experience with these or just have suggestions regarding these or similar models?

1-
CygoLite Trident 3xLED Li- Ion battery 290ghttp://www.cygolite.com/products/new/TridenX/TridenX_Lion.html

2-
NiteRider MiNewt.X2 LED Li-Ion battery 232g
http://www.niterider.com/prod_minewtx2.shtml

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Light & Motion Stella 180-L LED Li-Ion battery 300g
http://www.bikelights.com/Products/Stella180L.htm
Narrow down the choices even more if possible. That will help eliminate some lights and make the choice easier.
You will get some recomendations here that don't consider run time.

What do you need for runtime? This makes a big difference in what light you need.
If you will be riding in traffic, in the city with lots of ambient light, or in the rain, you need a bright
light. On a dark road with no streetlights you don't need as much.
If you have thin racing tires a bright light is more important than if you have big tough MTB tires.
If you really want to ride fast a bright light is a big help.
If you plan on lots of off road riding a light with lots of good side spill makes it easier.
Riding in very cold weather can reduce run time a lot. A water bottle battery keeps the battery warm longer if you really need it.
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You might want to check out the new "SCOLO" LED bike mini-headlight at Candlepower forums. They're getting a lot of buzz for their performance and price. They use the latest Cree Q5 LEDs. A pair of 200+ lumen lights with harness, etc. will cost you less than half your target budget.

http://www.cpfmarketplace.com/mp/sho...d.php?t=174344

Scroll down near the bottom of the first page to see it mounted on a bike. Other shots show beam patterns and wiring options.
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You might want to check out the new "SCOLO" LED bike mini-headlight at Candlepower forums. They're getting a lot of buzz for their performance and price. They use the latest Cree Q5 LEDs. A pair of 200+ lumen lights with harness, etc. will cost you less than half your target budget.

http://www.cpfmarketplace.com/mp/sho...d.php?t=174344

Scroll down near the bottom of the first page to see it mounted on a bike. Other shots show beam patterns and wiring options.
I could not find anything in that entire thread about run time. Did I miss it?
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Look on the third page, post #77. 7 hours on high mode using 6 NiMH cells. There are several posts on different cells type and amp combinations. Some are using rechargeable RC batteries.
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I'm going to contact the Scolo people. There seems to be a dearth of info in English on their website, like run time and weight. But the product looks good, and very reasonably priced. Thanks everyone for the suggestions.
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I'm going to contact the Scolo people. There seems to be a dearth of info in English on their website, like run time and weight. But the product looks good, and very reasonably priced. Thanks everyone for the suggestions.
I would recommend a detailed comparison between this and the Dinotte. The Dinotte is tried and proven, offers great customer service, and they have provided an upgrade path for previous technology changes. There are a lot of separate costs to add up and Dinotte offers many bundled options that you can mix and match and determine the price immediately on-line.
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I would recommend a detailed comparison between this and the Dinotte. The Dinotte is tried and proven, offers great customer service, and they have provided an upgrade path for previous technology changes. There are a lot of separate costs to add up and Dinotte offers many bundled options that you can mix and match and determine the price immediately on-line.
True, also...for a potential light buyer....

There are a few happy Dinotte owners, nightime beam shots, and info about them here in the forums.
It's as close as you can come to seeing one before you buy it.
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Let us know what you decide and how it works out.
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I like my Stella.
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Yes, yes you do, but this thread is about lights, not beer Chip.
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I like my Stella.
How much did you have to give for it, Chip?

I see it has the same brightness as my Fenix with a substantially longer run time. I'm curious about the price comparison.
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The 3 lights you have listed all use "older" LED's. Don't use a flashlight. That is like bringing a knife to a gunfight! For less money you can get the very latest in LED technology. Up to ~520 lumens in a lighthead that measures only 3/4" x 1 1/2" x 1 1/2". 173 grams total weight of lighthead and battery.

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You obviously have not used a Fenix. It is by far the best value for a bicycle headlight. You will not find a better option in the same price range. You'd have to spend 2-3 times as much to buy a bicycle specific light capable of competing with the Fenix.
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