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Old 01-18-04, 11:40 PM   #51
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P.S. The 4.5 amp sealed lead acid "gel cell" battery w/charger and weather-resistant case is still only $19.99 at Pep Boys. Not on sale--standard price here in Atlanta. Fantastic, considering the naked battery (no fuse, plug-ins, protective case, charger) costs almost $30 at Radio Shack.
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Old 01-18-04, 11:44 PM   #52
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Awesome! Still no pics though
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Well, found more choices, looked in the right spot at Menards and found 50 and 75 watt mr16 with cover glass.
Also found 10 watt mr11 but open.
If I could just find a Pep Boyz here I'dd be happy.
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Check out Solux museum-approved MR-16 bulbs. These are high-color-temperature (ie, almost pure white) bulbs for lighting artworks. Available in 35W and 50W, 38 degree floods to 10 degree spots, 4200K-4700K. The higher the K the whiter the light. Typical MR-11 and MR-16s are 2925-2950K. I have ordered a 35W, 4700K, 10 degree spot from lightbulbsdirect.com. Once I have hooked it up and tried it I will make a report.
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Major geek points to RainmanP for worrying bout color temp, I didn't even think about that.
I doff my tinfoil hat in respect.
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Thank you. Thank you very much. You give me too much credit. It wasn't so much that I was worried about color temp, per se. I was just hoping to put together something that would approximate a HID light in brightness and whiteness. I guess the extra geek points may be due anyway for knowing just enough about photography to know about color temp.

By the way, the reason I suddenly became more interested in this project is that a couple of days after LittleBigMan's original post the SWITCH went out on my 6-month-old, $400 NiteRider Blowtorch HID light. I was furious to have such a no-brainer part go out on a high-tech piece of gear. I have returned it for a refund.
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By the way, the reason I suddenly became more interested in this project is that a couple of days after LittleBigMan's original post the SWITCH went out on my 6-month-old, $400 NiteRider Blowtorch HID light. I was furious to have such a no-brainer part go out on a high-tech piece of gear. I have returned it for a refund.
Have no fear, Rainman! Together, there is no limit to the potential geekiness we can achieve.

To infinity, and beyond!

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Note: THIS IS NOT A FLYING TOY!
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Not the way I ride it, for sure!
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'scuse for barging in on a very interesting subject, and this being my first post to any of the biking news groups, i'd like to add my two cents. hopefully i don't step on any toes.

if any of you have not checked out http://nordicgroup.us/s78/ and your as technically challenged as my self and need everything written down ahead of time, this is a good place to start for creating your own lighting system. this website has photo's and diagrams along with ideas on getting cheap parts for cost/wholesale instead of paying through the nose.

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http://nordicgroup.us/s78/ ...is a good place to start for creating your own lighting system. this website has photo's and diagrams along with ideas on getting cheap parts for cost/wholesale instead of paying through the nose.
Thanks, dude! Fantastic.
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Thanks, dude! Fantastic.

e'hem, dudette.

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Kat,
Bless you, my child! That is the website I have been seeking! I immediately ordered some of his recommended items, particularly the Optronics lights that use MR-16 bulbs. He cautions about availability of these lights, but I was able to order directly from Optronics. I plan to replace the 55W bulb with the 35W Solux bulb that has whiter light.

Thanks for the website!
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Right.

I've picked up a 12V Xenon strobe emergency flasher, x-tremely bright, at Radio Shack for $8 (in the "alarm equipment" section.) Weatherproof, large polycarbonate yellow cover. Tested beautifully. I've seen relatively tiny LED's made for bikes that were the same price. Looks almost exactly like this:

http://www.allelectronics.com/cgi-bi...-3A&type=store

Also, at Auto Zone, I picked up a red tail light for $5.50. Also tests nicely for brightness, but doesn't come close to that xenon strobe. Not only can you see the strobe from every angle extremely well, it casts such a powerful flash that everything around it lights up. Now, I'm ready to join the extraterrestrial experimental cow abduction team!

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Bless you, my child! <snip>

Thanks for the website!
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wow, thanks. thought it might be helpful and it's not an easy site to find. been looking into lighting for quite awhile now. i'm currently looking into ground effects for my trike and ran into it on that search. noted it, printed it out, and filed it for future ref. and seeing as i ran into this thread thought someone else might want to do the same.

i'm way too into lighting. i've got so darn many lights on my bikes that i can out bright light an 18 wheeler and have on many an occation. (i LOVE my highs) i'm very concerend w/ weight so i have a tendency to lean twards the new LED's they've come out w/ lately. you'd be surprised at how much light 4 (and i mean 4 X 4, not one set of only 4 LED's but 4 sets of 4) of those little LED's will throw out. i've scared peds thinking i'm some form of space ship or something before.

i use front lights, side lights, wheel LED's, and rear lights. don't care if they are laughing at me when i pass... if the laugh, they know i'm there and that's all i care about. getting hit sucks royal dog crap. not EVER going to be hit because someone didn't see me.

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I've picked up a 12V Xenon strobe emergency flasher, x-tremely bright, at Radio Shack for $8 (in the "alarm equipment" section.) <snip>

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Now, I'm ready to join the extraterrestrial experimental cow abduction team!

those things are F*n awesome. if they weren't illegal in the UK i'd have one installed already.

guess cause i'm currently in the US i could try one out... i'm thinking about it... upload a picture when you get it installed please. i'd love to see it!

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I only had time to mount the red tail light tonight. Very bright. It will do just fine! (Great light output for about $6.) Considering it hooks into my 12V system, it doesn't need batteries, so it's very "light."

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Pete, is that an LED taillight or bulb? If LED, how many. Do you know the wattage? I wish I had seen your post yesterday. Last night I ordered one of those strobes from allelectronics.com! Oh, well, I got a couple of other things, too, so I'm not going to try to cancel.

Kat you are a girl after my own heart!
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1. There's no such thing as too much light.
2. If they are laughing at you they saw you and didn't run over you.
Kat, what kind of headlight setup are you using?

I ordered a pair of the Optronics driving lights that use MR-16 bulbs. They should be in today. In one I am going to use a 10-degree spot 35W Solux lamp that produces very white light. The other will probably get a 20W. I wish the Solux was available in 20W, but it only comes in 35 and 50. For the rear I plan to use the amber xenon strobe and a non-flashing red 8-LED light that has the reflex lens so it provides some visibility even when the light is off.

Can't wait to get it all together!
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Pete, is that an LED taillight or bulb? If LED, how many. Do you know the wattage?
No, its an incandescent bulb. I don't know the wattage, but it's probably very small.

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I wish I had seen your post yesterday. Last night I ordered one of those strobes from allelectronics.com! Oh, well, I got a couple of other things, too, so I'm not going to try to cancel.

I ordered a pair of the Optronics driving lights that use MR-16 bulbs. They should be in today. In one I am going to use a 10-degree spot 35W Solux lamp that produces very white light.
I feel the same way about your Optronics driving lights. I wish I had known about them beforehand. But that's ok, your victories are my inspiration for future upgrades!
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Pete,
The nice thing about the Optronics lights is that you get a pair for about $15, plus shipping. I ordered directly from Optronics and got the QH-8CC, which seems to be the same light as the 7 only black instead of chrome.
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How did you connect it all together

I have a 19V computer battery that appears encased. It's a 3.9Amp battery and I'd like to hook everything together with the one battery i.e., front and rear lights.

On the battery you bought, did you have to open up the case? What did you use to make the connections?
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I have a 19V computer battery that appears encased. It's a 3.9Amp battery and I'd like to hook everything together with the one battery i.e., front and rear lights.

On the battery you bought, did you have to open up the case? What did you use to make the connections?
I don't know about the 19V. I use a 12V because it's compatible with so many low-voltage accessories.
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The nice thing about the Optronics lights is that you get a pair for about $15, plus shipping. I ordered directly from Optronics and got the QH-8CC, which seems to be the same light as the 7 only black instead of chrome.
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That battery will blow out 12V lights pretty quickly. Some bulbs can be overvoltaged up to about 20%, but 50%+ is too much. A 5 amp hour sealed lead acid batter is only about 10 bucks and a nice charger about 15. Or you can get the power pack that Pete got for about $20. It is 4.5 AH, comes in a little bag, and has convenient car lighter type plug.
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Has anybody found another store that has Pete's power pack?
Iowa seems to not have a Pep Boys store, just plenty of their advertising. Radio Shack has a 5 amp/hour 12v but they want $30. Ouch.
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