Rox 8.0/9.0
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Rox 8.0/9.0
Does anyone use this? Please let me know how you like/dislike it.
Are there any other recommendations for a cycle computer that lets you upload the data on to your computer so you can keep track of your workouts? I thought about Edge 705 but that's a little pricey and as of right now, I really don't have a need for a gps unit.
Are there any other recommendations for a cycle computer that lets you upload the data on to your computer so you can keep track of your workouts? I thought about Edge 705 but that's a little pricey and as of right now, I really don't have a need for a gps unit.
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I'm also interested in Rox 9.0. I've done a LOT of research and it doesn't seem like anything touches the Rox 9.0 in terms of data collection and analysis tools. The Polar units come close. But they have a fatal flaw, the sensors are sealed and you cannot replace the batteries. Every time you run out of juice, you have to buy new sensors. This is very bad for the environment.
However, Polar's C600 unit does have a very unique feature. It has a torque sensor that works my measuring the vibration in the top run of the chain with a laser. VERY clever if you ask me. But it's in the same price ballpark as the Garmin units.
But PDA#1 Poster, they do have an online Flash simulator of the Rox 9.0. I would say there is a bit of a learning curve there to operate the thing. But it lets you do a lot of stuff. That's always the tradeoff. And search for Rox 9.0 review on google. You'll find some favoreable ones, and no bad ones like you will for the Garmin units.
I think I just convinced myself to take the plunge.
However, Polar's C600 unit does have a very unique feature. It has a torque sensor that works my measuring the vibration in the top run of the chain with a laser. VERY clever if you ask me. But it's in the same price ballpark as the Garmin units.
But PDA#1 Poster, they do have an online Flash simulator of the Rox 9.0. I would say there is a bit of a learning curve there to operate the thing. But it lets you do a lot of stuff. That's always the tradeoff. And search for Rox 9.0 review on google. You'll find some favoreable ones, and no bad ones like you will for the Garmin units.
I think I just convinced myself to take the plunge.
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Thanks. Yeah, I pretty much read all the reviews out there and I guess I just wanted someone to give me a slight nudge to actually make the plunge. I guess that's what I'll end up getting (too bad because Performance Bike near my house doesn't carry this but 3sports does - and I don't have a discount code for 3sports )
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So I finally went to 3sports here in town and purchased the ROX9.0. The set up was actually not as daunting as it may seem from some reviews. I think the key is once everything is attached to your bike, going ahead and installing the software. You can choose the settings and make adjustments on the software which is a lot easier to do than on the actual piece itself (the piece is prob not hard but typing via a keyboard is def easier). Unfortunately, it was raining on and off so I couldn't go out for a solid ride... I did just ride around in circles in my cul de sac just to calibrate the speed/cadence/HR and it all seemed to work fine. I can't wait to take it out for a ride to see how it does! And since I'm definitely a data nerd, I will be loving the analysis that I can do on the ride information that I download to the computer. Again, as I find out more about the features and stuff, I'll try to post here (assuming some people are interested despite the lack of comments).
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I'm very interested and must have read all there is on the Rox 9 on the net but that being inadequate, just bought a Garmin. Still would be nice to hear more.
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So far, I am pretty happy with my ROX9.0. It has an abundance of data and lets you record trip values as well as a log book which the latter can be used to "analyze" your workout because it displays min/max/avg spd, HR, incline, decline, etc etc... besides cadence, everything you want it to record (aside from watts, obv) is there.
The only complaint that I have (and this might only be because I don't know how to do it) is that when I set the log book function, I was hoping I can create lap information. In other words, if I'm working out on a 6 mile loop and I do that 4 times for a 24 mile ride, I want to have one logbook that has the entire 24mile ride but I also want to be able to analyze the data by segment. Sure, the charts and graphs are there but I want to know my average speed, average HR and compare the last 6 miles to the first 6 miles or whatever and I haven't found a way to do that. Not computing averages by lap is a pretty big shortfall in my opinion, considering how much this software costs.
Does anyone know if there's a way to record laps within the same log book or if I would have to create a separate log for each lap every time?
The only complaint that I have (and this might only be because I don't know how to do it) is that when I set the log book function, I was hoping I can create lap information. In other words, if I'm working out on a 6 mile loop and I do that 4 times for a 24 mile ride, I want to have one logbook that has the entire 24mile ride but I also want to be able to analyze the data by segment. Sure, the charts and graphs are there but I want to know my average speed, average HR and compare the last 6 miles to the first 6 miles or whatever and I haven't found a way to do that. Not computing averages by lap is a pretty big shortfall in my opinion, considering how much this software costs.
Does anyone know if there's a way to record laps within the same log book or if I would have to create a separate log for each lap every time?
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You may know this already, but you can set waypoints to mark each lap, which will show up on the graph, but I don't think it currently calculates averages for each segment. This sounds like a good idea, and something they could add to the software without having to change the hardware, so why not suggest it to Sigma Sport?
Alternatively, the data can be dumped into CSV files (Comma Separated Values). I haven't looked at them, but presumably they could be imported into a spreadsheet, or, I think, even edited and reimported into the Sigma Data Center.
Alternatively, the data can be dumped into CSV files (Comma Separated Values). I haven't looked at them, but presumably they could be imported into a spreadsheet, or, I think, even edited and reimported into the Sigma Data Center.
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i am just beginning my search for the 'perfect' computer. i think I would like to know cadence, hr, speed, incline/decline, etc. i don't know that i need a GPS quite frankly. Any information you gain with your new Rox 9.0 I would love to hear. BTW, I heard you say something about the price of the software. Do you have to buy them separately?
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The software comes with ROX9.0.
You can set waypoints but not have segment average information. Good suggestion on mentioning it to the support center. I'll try that.
The only other downside is that the average cadence information is not kept for the analysis either. Apparently due to memory issue. Trip would keep the cadence info but no analysis on the workout and I believe no HR information.
I purchased my ROX for about $230ish. I thought about Garmin Edge 705 but a little too pricey and I wasn't interested in a GPS system for now.
You can set waypoints but not have segment average information. Good suggestion on mentioning it to the support center. I'll try that.
The only other downside is that the average cadence information is not kept for the analysis either. Apparently due to memory issue. Trip would keep the cadence info but no analysis on the workout and I believe no HR information.
I purchased my ROX for about $230ish. I thought about Garmin Edge 705 but a little too pricey and I wasn't interested in a GPS system for now.
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Pretty impressive customer support. Response was about 18 hrs. I don't know how that compares to other sites but usually, if the answer comes back within 24 hrs, I am pretty happy (maybe my expectation sucks!?).
Anyways, I asked about them including a feature that will let you calculate the averages in between segments so that if you're doing multiple laps of the same course, you can monitor how consistent you were or how much of a drop off there is from first to last, etc. Here's their response:
When you open your LOG in the SIGMA Data Center there are two triangle's
that are red (WP at the top for Way Point). You can drag these around and
focus on certain sections of your ride.
Then go to current on the tabs below, and you can see the values for the way
point section you have cordoned off with those two red triangles.
Best regards,
Chad
Sigma USA
1067 Kingsland Dr.
Batavia, IL 60510
Now, I haven't had a chance to test it since I just got this and I'm at work (my sigma software is on my home pute) but I will def take a look at it tonight and report back.
Anyways, I asked about them including a feature that will let you calculate the averages in between segments so that if you're doing multiple laps of the same course, you can monitor how consistent you were or how much of a drop off there is from first to last, etc. Here's their response:
When you open your LOG in the SIGMA Data Center there are two triangle's
that are red (WP at the top for Way Point). You can drag these around and
focus on certain sections of your ride.
Then go to current on the tabs below, and you can see the values for the way
point section you have cordoned off with those two red triangles.
Best regards,
Chad
Sigma USA
1067 Kingsland Dr.
Batavia, IL 60510
Now, I haven't had a chance to test it since I just got this and I'm at work (my sigma software is on my home pute) but I will def take a look at it tonight and report back.
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Sounds good. I've been on the fence about several computers for a while. The ROX is on my list as well as a couple Polars. I've found your post very interesting.
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Pretty impressive customer support. Response was about 18 hrs. I don't know how that compares to other sites but usually, if the answer comes back within 24 hrs, I am pretty happy (maybe my expectation sucks!?).
Anyways, I asked about them including a feature that will let you calculate the averages in between segments so that if you're doing multiple laps of the same course, you can monitor how consistent you were or how much of a drop off there is from first to last, etc. Here's their response:
When you open your LOG in the SIGMA Data Center there are two triangle's
that are red (WP at the top for Way Point). You can drag these around and
focus on certain sections of your ride.
Then go to current on the tabs below, and you can see the values for the way
point section you have cordoned off with those two red triangles.
Best regards,
Chad
Sigma USA
1067 Kingsland Dr.
Batavia, IL 60510
Now, I haven't had a chance to test it since I just got this and I'm at work (my sigma software is on my home pute) but I will def take a look at it tonight and report back.
Anyways, I asked about them including a feature that will let you calculate the averages in between segments so that if you're doing multiple laps of the same course, you can monitor how consistent you were or how much of a drop off there is from first to last, etc. Here's their response:
When you open your LOG in the SIGMA Data Center there are two triangle's
that are red (WP at the top for Way Point). You can drag these around and
focus on certain sections of your ride.
Then go to current on the tabs below, and you can see the values for the way
point section you have cordoned off with those two red triangles.
Best regards,
Chad
Sigma USA
1067 Kingsland Dr.
Batavia, IL 60510
Now, I haven't had a chance to test it since I just got this and I'm at work (my sigma software is on my home pute) but I will def take a look at it tonight and report back.
After having this for a few weeks, I think ROX is a good purchase if you are interested in logging your workouts AND actually wanting to see how your workout was whether by segment or in total. If you are happy with just knowing your current status or not interested in analyzing your workouts, I think there are better/cheaper options.
All in all though, I am very happy with my ROX9.0 despite its $230 price tag.