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    Looking for a Light mount...

    Okay, I've been reading, and looking, and looking some more.. I've accepted that flashlights work best and I already have a pretty awesome flashlight I would like to mount to my bike, but I have yet to find the mount for it. Anyone have an idea of someplace I can buy a flashlight mount for a http://www.surefire.com/G2-Led ?? I swear by Surefires, and this is just a lower end one of their LED's rated @ 80 lumens, plenty bright for night riding IMO, but I'll have a better idea after I've ridden for a bit to figure out the speed I would be riding at, and whether or not I'll need a brighter (reason for a new one ) surefire. Most are about the same diameter, so I figure anything with a dual rubber coating would be great, protect my new carbon fiber road bike and flashlight as well.

    And if any of you have any knowledge of Surefires and how they compare to other High Performance lights, let me know of your experiences.. just in case something might just be better (doubtful but there may be like a .00012% chance.. heh).. then again maybe theres a better light for biking.. don't know.

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    There's a few mounts on this page: http://www.dealextreme.com/products.dx/category.915

    I've tried most of them.

    This mount (sku 8274)



    http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.8274

    Is very well recommended and although I haven't tried it myself, lots of people on here seem to like it greatly.

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    This one (sku 792)



    http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.792

    I have tried, but I wasn't as impressed with.

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    This one (sku 15342)



    http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.15342

    I've got a few of these and they work great, especially on smaller (AA) torches and if you want a bit of left/right adjustment. This one may well be the best choice for you. I've also modified them and used one half of the clamp on my HID project (see my signature)

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    This one (sku 13004)



    http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.13004

    Is of course the famous Fenix mount. Probably better suited to medium sized torches rather than small torches, I use one of these on my seatpost with one of DX's amazing high power red LED torches.

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    This one (sku 15642)



    http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.15642

    Is great for larger torches, it's robust and lightweight and works very well with my P7 torch.

    I've tried a couple of other mounts from DX, but as they no longer seem to be on the site, there isn't much point in recommending them.

    All in all there's a fair choice of torch mounts on DX and having tried most of them I can honestly say that many of them are very good.

    If one of the mounts I've described looks like it might suit you, just ask on here if it's any good and you'll get feedback from other people who have tried them.

    Also, the prices include postage

    BTW. 80 lumens isn't really very much....
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    Having tried some of the DX mounts and also Two Fish mounts, I can say that Two Fish mounts are a far better product in every way.

    As for the light, SureFires aren't nearly as bright as other lights currently being made, and also they don't accept 18650 batteries, which offer much better runtime than CR123 or whatever the SF runs off of.

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    lockblocks can be bought from usa dealer fenixstore for 7.50 or get a 3 pack for 16.00.. 80 lumen output is pretty weak compared to what is available on the market today.. A Q5 cree can usually put out 200+ lumens while the stronger P7 or MC-e leds are in the 500+ lumen output range..

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    Make your own....

    1. use two interlocking hose clamps ...or

    2. Look at this idea using two conduit clamps.

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    http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.8274

    I have four of these, and just ordered two more.

    You can fit them on wider seat tubes than the screw

    would allow if you use a zip tie instead.

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    Two Fish Lockblocks all the way. I've used and discarded just about all the others. The only other mount that's worth a rat's is a Mawri Mount but you have to figure out how to secure the slide-out part to your light. This is a good place to get Mawri Mounts: http://www.el34world.com/Misc/bike/BikesLights7.htm

    Two Fish Lockblocks will fit Surefire G-2's, P-6's and any other smaller diameter flashlights. I have several Surefires but they all stay home where they're safe. I tried them on the bike, but they're not bright enough even for my 10-12mph nighttime speeds.

    I use two lockblocks on the handlebars with Crees and one on the fork holding a P7, underslung on a Minoura Fork Mount at the same level as the hub. Makes a great "to see" light at night or a strobe during the day. The Minoura mount allows lateral adjustment and the lockblock adjusts vertically. Plus, it looks pretty cool.

    Do yourself a favor and don't even risk your G-2 on your bike. Keep it on your boat or in your camping gear and spring for a $25-30 Cree or P7.

    The conduit clamp idea works but it's pretty bulky and ugly, and requires a wrench to take your light off your bike. That becomes a real PITA after a while. For a real low budget solution, you'd be better off with the innertube method.


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    Quote Originally Posted by uke View Post
    http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.8274

    I have four of these, and just ordered two more.

    You can fit them on wider seat tubes than the screw

    would allow if you use a zip tie instead.
    What light do you use that with? I've found them too tight for lights that take 18650 batteries, and far too loose for AA cells. They have been totally useless in my experience.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ziemas View Post
    What light do you use that with? I've found them too tight for lights that take 18650 batteries, and far too loose for AA cells. They have been totally useless in my experience.
    I use it for my MTE 2-mode p7 (1x18650) and it fit very tight at first and now it's just tight. Which is fine by me!

    x1 on the ziptie mount, I run slightly oversize handle bars on my commuter and I tossed out the rubber spacer and screw/nut and just used a strong ziptie threaded through the holes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ziemas View Post
    What light do you use that with? I've found them too tight for lights that take 18650 batteries, and far too loose for AA cells. They have been totally useless in my experience.
    My front: http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.13060
    My back: http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.20333

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    I don't want to have a head on but oh god, I HAVE to fling myself into oncoming traffic to pass, theres no alternative!!!

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    I use the conduit clamps with my Taskforce C cells, and they work great. Total adjustability, very strong with a heavy light.

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    I have only used the TwoFish lock blocks to mount lights to my bars and helmet. I have been very satisfied. I have three different lights, a single 18650 P7, a 3 x AAA led and a 2 x AA led, and they all work very well with the lockblock mounts.
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    i'm using the same ones, simply awesome, cheap affordable, and it gets the job done.

    by the way i'm even using them UP SIDE DOWN, and it has never let my P4 fall down.

    To change batteries i have to manually rip it off, and ply it apart, the holder it's that good

    Quote Originally Posted by Unknown Cyclist View Post
    There's a few mounts on this page: http://www.dealextreme.com/products.dx/category.915

    I've tried most of them.

    This mount (sku 8274)



    http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.8274

    Is very well recommended and although I haven't tried it myself, lots of people on here seem to like it greatly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GTALuigi View Post
    i'm using the same ones, simply awesome, cheap affordable, and it gets the job done.

    by the way i'm even using them UP SIDE DOWN, and it has never let my P4 fall down.

    To change batteries i have to manually rip it off, and ply it apart, the holder it's that good
    What about if you lock up on the street? Do you have to 'ply it apart' too? Sounds like a PITA if you need to take the light on and off regularly.

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    DX 13004 - the Fenix mount. Downside: rattles like blazes as the top and bottom sections are not a tight fit, and can't be tightened. I ended up epoxying them togther, then scrapped it in favour of 15342 -- cheaper and better. Recommended.

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    noting all of the above, 1. thanks, 2. in regards to Cree lights vs Surefires... What happened to Surefire? I thought that they were supposed to be one of the best tactical light makers out there? anyways, if i start to look into getting a different flashlight, what are the recommended ones? fenix? crees? what models etc?

    and those batteries, where can you get them from?

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    Quote Originally Posted by scottydoesntkno View Post
    noting all of the above, 1. thanks, 2. in regards to Cree lights vs Surefires... What happened to Surefire? I thought that they were supposed to be one of the best tactical light makers out there? anyways, if i start to look into getting a different flashlight, what are the recommended ones? fenix? crees? what models etc?

    and those batteries, where can you get them from?


    http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.5790



    http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.1251

    If you'd like to browse the torches on DX:

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    Click on Flashlights/Lamps on the left or use the search.

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    ^^^

    That charger from DX is known to have serious problems and really shouldn't be trusted as there have been counterfeit ones bought from DX that overcharge to dangerous levels. Check out the comments (not the reviews as they only post positive ones) on the sale page for more info.

    There are US based sellers who sell the same charger which to my knowledge don't have the same issues as the DX ones.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scottydoesntkno View Post
    noting all of the above, 1. thanks, 2. in regards to Cree lights vs Surefires... What happened to Surefire? I thought that they were supposed to be one of the best tactical light makers out there? anyways, if i start to look into getting a different flashlight, what are the recommended ones? fenix? crees? what models etc?

    and those batteries, where can you get them from?
    Surefire has a loyal following amongst many folks on CPF, largely I suspect due to the fact that they are made in the US and supply the military and police. While I'm sure they are a high quality product, for shear light output there are many other options. Personally I've been quite impressed with the quality, output, and price of SolarForce lights. They can be bought from either US vendors or directly from Hong Kong. One nice thing about them is that they take a P60 (SureFire style) drop-in, which means that you can easily change the LED to a more powerful one as technology changes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ziemas View Post
    That charger from DX is known to have serious problems and really shouldn't be trusted as there have been counterfeit ones bought from DX that overcharge to dangerous levels
    What a crock.

    It has been alleged that some are copies, not proved.

    Besides, the chargers under accusation were bought years ago FFS - one of them was bought in 1996 !!!!

    I've looked at those tests and most of them are deeply flawed, the off load voltage has NOTHING to do with the charge voltage.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Unknown Cyclist View Post
    What a crock.

    It has been alleged that some are copies, not proved.

    Besides, the chargers under accusation were bought years ago FFS - one of them was bought in 1996 !!!!

    I've looked at those tests and most of them are deeply flawed, the off load voltage has NOTHING to do with the charge voltage.
    I know that you are a DX 'fan boy' and think that they can do no wrong, but actually take the time to read the post about this charger from DX on the DX message board. There are current posts regarding this charger.

    If the same charger, known not to be counterfeit, is available for a similar price why risk it with DX?

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    Unthinking adoration of a company does no one any good, especially when it comes to possibly dangerous goods. I've bought plenty of stuff from DX over the years, I even placed an order with them yesterday, but I certainly don't trust anything from them connected to the mains, especially after others have had problems with the same product. I'm not so cheap as to try and save three or four dollars on an iffy product.

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    no1john Tuesday, May 12, 2009 8:17 AM Reply
    I am using this charger with a pair of new Trustfire 18650 2400mAh 3.7v Li-on protected batterys. The battery's seem to ship charged but I placed one in the charger and it is showing a solid red(no flickering to green) led even after 5 hours of charging, Is this normal? I placed the second battery in my torch and left it on for 2 hours to drain some power from it, I then placed the partialy drained battery into the charge and it also shows a solid red led (no flickering). How can i tell if it is charging? Should it not flicker green as other people have said? The charge shows a solid green led without battery inserted and changes to solid red when battery is in place.Can anyone help explain this. Thanks

    captjimjam Moderator Tuesday, May 12, 2009 8:50 AM Reply
    Do you have a multimeter to hand, to measure the battery voltage?

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    no1john Tuesday, May 12, 2009 9:18 AM Reply
    No multimeter unfortunatly, Im'e begining to think the charger will never show a green led for when a battery is charged


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    I received my charger today and, like you, after a couple of hours, the two leds were still red. I unplugged the charger, remove one battery, put it back in, replug the charger and the two leds were green...

    You might try to unplug and replug the charger.

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    gazzag94 Tuesday, May 12, 2009 1:16 PM Reply
    You might try to unplug and replug the charger.

    Yeah. Always works for me when my AA/AAA/9V charger remains Green after swapping charged batteries for empty batteries.

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    no1john Tuesday, May 12, 2009 1:21 PM Reply
    Thanks for the tip's, the charger is now displaying a green led after 6 hours of charging battery. At no time did it flicker green so i guess they must of changed the spec of the charger.

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    It should be fine now, as long as you remember to unplug after every full charge. At least that's what I do.

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    GrAnd Tuesday, May 12, 2009 2:01 PM Reply
    The latest batches seems to have cheaper circuit which does charge with lowering current instead of CC/CV. That means it is not blinking while charging and takes more time to charge. So, it behaves in the same way as TrustFire TR-001 does. Here is the charging graph (from TR-001 though; As WF-139 is a little bit more powerful, the time should be shorter)

    http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/5915/vaavg.th.png
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    Green leds just indicate when the current reaches some level. The actual charging is continuing actually (with low(ering) current).

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    no1john Tuesday, May 12, 2009 2:06 PM Reply
    would it be safe to use this charger with unprotected cell's? would it stop charging at at the correct limit for battery
    http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.1251

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ziemas View Post
    I know that you are a DX 'fan boy' and think that they can do no wrong, but actually take the time to read the post about this charger from DX on the DX message board. There are current posts regarding this charger.
    LOL @ 'fan boy'

    Nearly all the reviews are positive (I read them before buying) and equally nearly everyone that has one is happy with it.

    So, in reality I'm just reflecting the average user.

    I bought one and it's superb, several of my friends have them and they all use them very happily.

    It isn't a case of me being a 'fan boy' it's just a case of honest representation.

    A very small whining minority can easily cause a good company or good product to look very bad, simply because the 99% of happy purchasers don't make as much fuss as the whiners.

    So to be fair, if you want a level playing field, let people that have had positive experiences speak about them without you attacking their every accurate observation.



    ps. there's still no evidence whatsoever of any of the chargers being 'counterfeit'
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    Quote Originally Posted by Unknown Cyclist View Post
    LOL @ 'fan boy'

    Nearly all the reviews are positive (I read them before buying) and equally nearly everyone that has one is happy with it.

    So, in reality I'm just reflecting the average user.

    I bought one and it's superb, several of my friends have them and they all use them very happily.

    It isn't a case of me being a 'fan boy' it's just a case of honest representation.

    A very small whining minority can easily cause a good company or good product to look very bad, simply because the 99% of happy purchasers don't make as much fuss as the whiners.

    So to be fair, if you want a level playing field, let people that have had positive experiences speak about them without you attacking their every accurate observation.



    ps. there's still no evidence whatsoever of any of the chargers being 'counterfeit'
    The reason that all the reviews are good is because DX doesn't post any negative reviews. I've gotten several peices of total rubbish quality goods from DX. When I mentioned the poor quality of their tailight mounts you replied with how great some other product you bought from them is, like that somehow changes the crap that they are selling.

    As for you being a 'fan boy', whenever anything negative is said about the quality of DX goods you chime in talking about how great everything from DX is.....that sure sounds like a 'fan boy' to me. Why you refuse to admit that DX sells some rubbish is beyond me, and a disservice to all who read your posts.

    As for you representing the average user, that's complete BS; the average user knows to be damn careful what they buy on DX as the specs and quality of the same product frequently change. I'm not out to bash DX, what I'm out to do is give people a fair representation of what they really are. It would be nice if you'd do the same.

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