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Old 09-07-09, 11:50 PM   #1
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headlights that will light up the road (not saftey lights)

does anyone know of a hi-powered head light, that is arround 60 bucks? i need something to light the road, ahead, but not break the bank
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A bit more than your target price range but you won't find anything better for the money that offers as much light.
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A bit more than your target price range but you won't find anything better for the money that offers as much light.
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A bit more than your target price range but you won't find anything better for the money that offers as much light.
Ditto. Save up some money and get this if you can. You won't regret it. I've got far more $$ than this invested in crappy lights that didn't work out, spending $20 to $50 at a time. I would have saved a couple hundred bucks by just biting the bullet and buying a good light the first time.

The first light that I had that really worked for me was an HID that I put together myself from parts that cost me well > $200. The Magicshine puts out as much light as that but costs $90 and weighs a lot less. Progress is a wonderful thing.
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thanks for the posts, ill go with the more expencive light once, rather than buying 2 or 3 cheap ones to replace while i go. does anyone have any experience on how many lumens or candle power it takes to light up the road ahead of you at about 15 feet? give or take.

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anyone ever head of the cygolite pace 135? any good? supposidly 135 lumens
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15 feet is hardly at all. I think most people around here want to light it up for 50 feet or more. The MagicShine can easily light it up for 50 feet, probably more like 75.

Most people ride at least 15 MPH. That's 22 feet per second. You'll have only 3/4 second to react to something in the road if you're only lighting up 15 feet.

I have emergency "limp home" lights that might only light up for 15 feet, but when I'm using them I go very slowly and carefully, and I'm still really not happy at all about it.
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Does this have a smart charger so I don't have to remember to unplug it?
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15 feet is hardly at all. I think most people around here want to light it up for 50 feet or more. The MagicShine can easily light it up for 50 feet, probably more like 75.

Most people ride at least 15 MPH. That's 22 feet per second. You'll have only 3/4 second to react to something in the road if you're only lighting up 15 feet.

I have emergency "limp home" lights that might only light up for 15 feet, but when I'm using them I go very slowly and carefully, and I'm still really not happy at all about it.
ohh hehe i didnt think of the math, cuz my cruise speed is 17. thanks
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Ha, my cruise speed is about 11. I can use a candle.

I'm commuting in the big city so I have to deal with buses (I hate those long monsters), traffic lights, and people-without-bikes. And for some reason the wind is always in my face.

Still, I ordered the MagicShine. I have a Planet Bike 15w halogen but I had to replace the bulb and it doesn't work nearly as well as when it was new. So, I'll keep that as a spare.
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Ha, my cruise speed is about 11. I can use a candle.

I'm commuting in the big city so I have to deal with buses (I hate those long monsters), traffic lights, and people-without-bikes. And for some reason the wind is always in my face.

Still, I ordered the MagicShine. I have a Planet Bike 15w halogen but I had to replace the bulb and it doesn't work nearly as well as when it was new. So, I'll keep that as a spare.
i just picked up a cygolite pace 135 with 135 lumens, and its perfect lighting for me, just wondering if you knew of a mount or a way to mount it to my stem, becauase i have drops on my bike and they get thicker as they get closer to the stem, and the light is always off a bit.
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135 lumens is not very much light for night riding.. That output is more in the range of being seen as opposed to seeing especially of you are going to be riding somewhere near 20mph..

The light that was recommended above puts out easily 4 times that much light..
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135 lumens is not very much light for night riding.. That output is more in the range of being seen as opposed to seeing especially of you are going to be riding somewhere near 20mph..

The light that was recommended above puts out easily 4 times that much light..
I'm confused by this, as I'm in the process of replacing a Niterider 15W halogen "digital" light. I've been told that this light puts out aproximately 130 lumens, yet it was very bright, back when it worked.
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Light technology has been evolving fast over the last few years.. A light that is 5+ years is an antique by lighting standards of today..

The average bright light is around 500 lumens while there are new models that will be available soon from name brand vendors that will be putting out over 1000 lumens..

When I did my 1st night rides in the early 80's I used a light called a wonderlight, that probably put out 10 lumens and that seemed acceptable for that time..
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I think MagicShine has redefined the price/performance point. For anyone who's riding in complete darkness and needs the light at all to see by and has any kind of budget, there's not much reason to go for less than the MagicShine P7 at $90 and whatever lumens it puts out, probably 500-600.

At the rate GeoMan seems to be selling these, and the quality they've achieved recently, the other vendors are going to HAVE to react. Hopefully MagicShine will continue to improve. Maybe we'll see them or some other vendor come out with a shaped beam light too, though honestly I've found that with the MagicShine properly pointed, the light is very even and bright out 50+ feet.
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I have a few different P7's and all of them are brighter than my Trinewt which is rated just under 500 lumens.. 1 year ago if you were buying a 90.00 light you probably were not getting much, the MS light is a bargain at 90.00.. You will see major vendors starting to put out p7 lights and I am sure they will be in the 300-400.00 price range and even higher for dual p7 setups..
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i really want to point out that the optic through which the light is projected is often more important than the quantity of light alone...

you can have a light that is rated at a few hundred lumens but it's really not doing much for you unless it is pointed exactly where you need it, and it's too narrow of a spot to be pointed all the places you need it at once.

the best lights are bright enough and wide enough so that when your eyes are adjusted to them, they will light up everything in your field of vision.

for that reason i like flood beams that have a center spot and can be helmet mounted.

i too wish i hadn't spent so much on lights and had instead waited for a light like the ms900, but i am fortunate enough to have a light and motion HID lamp that is at least as nice. people always get caught up in the lumen count or output and they don't think enough about where that output is going.
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Like some of the other folks here, I've squandered ALOT of money over the years on $30-$50 lights, and am a new owner of a "Nova 900 (same light as the magicshine)". IMO it is an absolute bargain at $90 shipped, and is well worth bumping your budget.
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^^^^^Also (for context), I've also used several top-end (lights and motion, niterider, turbo cat) and the nova/magicshine easily holds its own at a fraction of the cost.
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^^^^^Also (for context), I've also used several top-end (lights and motion, niterider, turbo cat) and the nova/magicshine easily holds its own at a fraction of the cost.
Folks seem to be liking them...

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Except for the weird modes on the new ones. Hopefully that's a temporary thing.
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Except for the weird modes on the new ones. Hopefully that's a temporary thing.
Nice thing is you can cycle through a "weird mode" and not use it.

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Nice thing is you can cycle through a "weird mode" and not use it.

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Yeah, but a useful mode is now gone. From reports, there is no longer a useful flash mode; there's one that's too rapid to be of any use, and SOS which is both too slow and inappropriate.
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Yeah, but a useful mode is now gone. From reports, there is no longer a useful flash mode; there's one that's too rapid to be of any use, and SOS which is both too slow and inappropriate.
Sorry, nothing changed except the addition of a 20% mode and the "weird" flash mode you describe. Nothing was taken away.



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Sorry, nothing changed except the addition of a 20% mode and the "weird" flash mode you describe. Nothing was taken away.



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OK, that's good. Reports here said that the current models were high/med/low/blink/SOS, and the blink was now something like 30 pulses per second, which is insane.

Mine was high/low/blink at 3 pulses per second, which is about right.

So the blink mode is still around 3 pulses per second, not 30? If so then it's all good, though SOS is still utterly useless.
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