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Old 10-11-09, 11:53 AM   #76
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You really need to work on your people skills

Long ago there was a product called Lightbrain (no longer made) which was a voltage regulator for halogen lights. It rapid pulsed the light to improve battery efficiency. It also included a strobe mode.

The Niterider Digital Pro had a strobe mode too. Look here for a review. The Digital Pro was being sold long before LED.

Perhaps you ought to reconsider telling anyone to shut up
There are failed attempts at products with all kinds of ridiculous features. Those you mentioned are two of them. Big deal. My point is still valid, and I don't care one bit what YOU think of me or your recommendations.
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Old 10-11-09, 11:57 AM   #77
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You see, just more personal attacking and nothing to back up your ridiculous words. Real easy to shout garbage from the cheap seats, isn't it? As I said before, you're just like a drunk at the bar who took a physics class 30 years ago and now thinks he knows how everything works.
As has been pointed out to you before, by myself, others AND by the moderation staff, it is you who seem to be making the personal attacks. An intelligent fellow would have taken the hint, but you obviously have not, which doesn't bode well for you longevity in this community. A smart fellow can take a hint...it remains to be seen if you are one of those smarter fellows.

Now would you prefer to answer the question I asked...or continue to make an ass of yourself?
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I'm going to continue to disregard the garbage you spew on here and post my valid points, which are ON TOPIC. Your trolling is obvious, cowardly and childish. How's THAT for "people skills"?

Moderators ... When are you going to DO something about this?
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I'm going to continue to disregard the garbage you spew on here and post my valid points, which are ON TOPIC. Your trolling is obvious, cowardly and childish. How's THAT for "people skills"?

Moderators ... When are you going to DO something about this?
Are you just here to argue and spread bad info about LED lights?
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How about modulating headlamps for motorcycles, which are specifically allowed under both Canadian and US transportation laws...and are indeed thought to make motorcycles more visible. In fact, didn't I hear that they are now available for automobiles?
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I'm going to continue to disregard the garbage you spew on here and post my valid points, which are ON TOPIC. Your trolling is obvious, cowardly and childish. How's THAT for "people skills"?

Moderators ... When are you going to DO something about this?
You still have not answered the ON TOPIC questions I asked (above) that sent you off on yet another drunken rant...

If you have a problem with anything I have said, there is a nice "Report this post to a moderator" link you can use to report it...and as a former moderator I can assure you that every reported post is seen and discussed by the moderation team. HTH
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Are you just here to argue and spread bad info about LED lights?
I'm here to state my opinions, whether you like it or not. Disagree with my points if you want, but the question you just asked is OFF TOPIC, rude, and maliciously characterizes my points incorrectly. Troll somewhere else.
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I'm here to state my opinions, whether you like it or not. Disagree with my points if you want, but the question you just asked is OFF TOPIC, rude, and maliciously characterizes my points incorrectly. Troll somewhere else.
Nope. Your posting history backs it up.
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The law against strobed front lights is the law of common sence. Strobes are way too distracting for headlight use. Just because LED sources CAN be strobed doesn't mean it's a good idea. Just because marketing and advertising hacks want to put another "feature" on the packaging doesn't mean it's a good idea to strobe a front light.

Ask an epileptic person if they think a strobed headlight is a good idea. Strobed lights are not necessary for better visibility on the street. Collisions happen because bicyclists ride on sidewalks, on the wrong side of the road, too close to parked cars, too fast for conditions, without mirrors, and distracted. Also because car drivers drive distracted, without knowledge of proper lane usage, don't use their turn signals, and don't know where the front of their vehicle is in relation to themselves ( which is why many now leave so much space in front of them while waiting at stops). There's no evidence that strobing a headlight makes any difference.

Strobed white lights should be reserved for emergency vehicles. As with helmet mounted headlights, they scream out "look at me, me, me" without any consideration for anyone else on the road, and by their overly distracting presence make everyone else on the road at greater risk.

Just my opinion. Don't allow marketing hype and fear mongering guide your actions. Nobody strobed their headlights untill LEDs started being used for that purpose. Strobed headlights are pure marketing BS.
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Thanks for posting that link! It certainly shows the importance of modulating a headlight at way above the flicker rate. I suppose that's to accomodate the effect the speed of the light has on its modulation as seen by an observer standing still. Bike strobing headlights are a completely different situation, which demonstrates the basis for my reaction to Mr. Give-em-all-the-finger.
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There are failed attempts at products with all kinds of ridiculous features. Those you mentioned are two of them. Big deal. My point is still valid, and I don't care one bit what YOU think of me or your recommendations.
You asked a question...

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Show us a non-LED bike headlight that strobed, from BEFORE LEDs started being sold with that feature. Show us a strobed HID or halogen lamp. Untill then, STFU and I'll disregard your recommendation.
...I provided an answer. Your point, that strobed lamps didn't exist before LEDs, is absolutely invalid. Both of the products that I used to illustrate the invalidity of your statements was commercially available. The Niterider Digital Pro was not a stellar product to be sure, but it was sold in several thousand units in the early 2000's.

You can't, absolutely can't, accept that you are wrong. Not on this nor on anything else you have been wrong about.
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Thanks for posting that link! It certainly shows the importance of modulating a headlight at way above the flicker rate. I suppose that's to accomodate the effect the speed of the light has on its modulation as seen by an observer standing still. Bike strobing headlights are a completely different situation, which demonstrates the basis for my reaction to Mr. Give-em-all-the-finger.
However, you asked a question about strobed bicycle headlamps prior to LEDs. That question has been answer and you choose to ignore it. The Niterider Digital Pro was strobed to send an SOS signal. That is way below the rate given in the link. It was truly a strobed halogen bicycle headlamp.

Question asked. Question answer. Answer rejected because it demonstrates, once again, that you are incorrect.

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Hey Ziemas, learn how to read! I recommend against putting high poweered headlights on HELMETS, not against using them. I recommend against TOO MUCH light, and I'll add blinking headlights (which only paranoid cyclists use, and for no good reason).

TOO MUCH headlight is inconsiderate to everyone comming toward you, other bicyclists included, and dangerous to everyone they encounter while temporarily blinded. Not ALL cyclists using high powered headlights adjust them propeerly. Just like not all helmet wearers adjust THEM properly.

I don't care whether you like my recommendation or not. My words are for those who CAN comprehend my points and aren't blinded by their own paranoia about getting hit from the front. Nor do I care about the opinion of a pseudo-"scientist" who demonstrates his ignorance about light in general as he pontificates about it. Perhaps he should read a bit longer on the Wikipedia before posting such wordy drivel.
Ok, first and foremost, I am shocked at the combative manner you use to debate these issues with fellow cyclists. Second, I have a cygolite crossfire with upgraded LED's, I'm not sure of the lumens, but I'm sure someone here can post that info. I use flash mode, due to the fact that one morning I was coming in to work, with my previous headlight on solid, sun was coming up, but it was a bit foggy, lady turned right into me, she was coming from the other lane, and turning into an intersection, I just missed her bumper, had I been just a bit slower on the breaks, I'd have been on her hood. I now use a flashing light as soon as it's bright enough for me to see without the headlight, and I haven't had an incident.

In my opinion, more light on a bicycle is always better. The first time I read an article "Driver blinded by cyclists runs him down" I'll change my thoughts, but the ones I keep seeing are "Driver hits cyclists, claims "I just didn't see them". Your point of view is at this point a non issue. Drivers aren't being blinded by cyclist and running off the road left and right, but they are running them down because "they didn't see them".

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Wow, just today on my way home from work a taxi went flying around a blind corner at speed, nearly hitting he. Luckily I had my helmet light flashing, and he slammed on the brakes as soon as he saw it.
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I think the OP has his question answered.

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