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BarracksSi 12-14-09 09:24 PM

New electric bike wheel - "Copenhagen wheel"
 
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/12/15/sc...th/15bike.html


The Senseable City Laboratory at M.I.T. has designed a wheel that captures the kinetic energy released when a rider brakes and saves it for when the rider needs a boost. While technically sound, the wheel’s true challenge may be in winning over cyclists. For centuries, bikes have been beloved for their simplicity, not their bells and whistles.

But, said Carlo Ratti, the laboratory’s director, “biking can become even more effective than what it was.” What the lab is working on, he said, is “Biking 2.0.”

The new wheel uses a kinetic energy recovery system, the same technology used by hybrid cars, like the Toyota Prius, to harvest otherwise wasted energy when a cyclist brakes or speeds down a hill. With that energy, it charges up a battery inside the wheel’s hub.

The sleek red hub, called the Copenhagen Wheel, was to be unveiled Tuesday morning in Copenhagen. It can be retrofitted to any bike’s rear wheel, and it includes sensors that track air quality, a meter that logs miles and a GPS unit to track routes. All that data can be sent via Bluetooth to a rider’s smartphone and shared with others.
Steve Hed was asked about it, too.

AEO 12-14-09 10:58 PM

so... how much does it cost?

one of the biggest problems with the prius, even with all its technology, is that it is so heavy, that it doesn't really get any better mileage than a comparable diesel that's much cheaper.
now, since all this is applied to the bike wheel... just how heavy is it?

sounds better if they just called it a 'light electric scooter' :innocent:

colleen c 12-14-09 11:17 PM


Originally Posted by AEO (Post 10147289)
so... how much does it cost?

one of the biggest problems with the prius, even with all its technology, is that it is so heavy, that it doesn't really get any better mileage than a comparable diesel that's much cheaper.
now, since all this is applied to the bike wheel... just how heavy is it?

sounds better if they just called it a 'light electric scooter' :innocent:

Good point.

Just like everything else in the bike marketing world, eventually the cost will be inversley proportional to the weight. :(

It does sound interesting though, therfore I'll put it on my Christmas wish list. :D

dynodonn 12-14-09 11:30 PM

Pretty scary, I was just thinking of this very type of setup while riding my bike yesterday. Lo and behold, in the papers the very next day.

akohekohe 12-15-09 04:41 AM

The Bionx already does this so I don't know why these people claim it is such a new innovation.

jefferee 12-16-09 12:13 PM


Originally Posted by akohekohe (Post 10147791)
The Bionx already does this so I don't know why these people claim it is such a new innovation.

The major differences are:
-The battery is integrated with the hub motor/generator
-Gear shifting and changing the power assist configurations are done from a smart phone via bluetooth :rolleyes:

Here's a picture... why do I get the sense that there's not a lot of participation in this project from bike enthusiasts?
(hint: look closely at where the chain meets the hub)

http://i394.photobucket.com/albums/p...hagenwheel.jpg

The website, apart from that picture, seems pretty well done-up.
http://senseable.mit.edu/copenhagenwheel/index.html

BarracksSi 12-16-09 11:32 PM


Originally Posted by jefferee (Post 10153620)
-Gear shifting and changing the power assist configurations are done from a smart phone via bluetooth :rolleyes:

That's probably the dumbest part of the whole design. Yeah, I could use my iPhone, but not everyone has one, and of those who do, they don't want to be sucking down the battery with an app running in the foreground during the ride.

AEO 12-19-09 05:17 PM


Originally Posted by jefferee (Post 10153620)
The major differences are:
-The battery is integrated with the hub motor/generator
-Gear shifting and changing the power assist configurations are done from a smart phone via bluetooth :rolleyes:

Here's a picture... why do I get the sense that there's not a lot of participation in this project from bike enthusiasts?
(hint: look closely at where the chain meets the hub)

http://i394.photobucket.com/albums/p...hagenwheel.jpg

The website, apart from that picture, seems pretty well done-up.
http://senseable.mit.edu/copenhagenwheel/index.html

I was about to say the bike image is flipped...

Rollfast 12-19-09 06:08 PM


Originally Posted by akohekohe (Post 10147791)
The Bionx already does this so I don't know why these people claim it is such a new innovation.

So far I can't see HOW this helps a 270lb guy take 40lbs of groceries, etc home any better than said 270lb guy.

Mein gott, I so love cruisers.

nwmtnbkr 12-19-09 06:27 PM

I'm not sure this will ever make it to market, despite the hype. I believe it will be hard for them to compete with lower-priced hub and non-hub motors that have good torque. They might get excited in the flat lands of Denmark, but if you have any hills, you know that you need torque, which requires power.


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