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Old 02-13-10, 04:29 PM   #1
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Lighting on a tight budget

Do you spend more for the front or the rear?
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For the Rear get two of these. They are brighter then the PBSF and have three modes.

http://www.pricepoint.com/detail/193...fety-Light.htm
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The Front:

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You'll usually spend more money on the front lights, especially if you want to "see" and not just "be seen." But I do like two lights in the rears, typically one flashing and one solid.
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Yikes, $150? A sub $30 Terralux would be more like it if on a budget. I've got more money into my tail light with a Dinotte but I want daytime visibility.
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Personally I think rear and side illumination is the most important since most bike accidents at night are rearenders, but headlights cost more thus usually you will spend more on a headlight. But you could easily start with a headlight and a taillight for under $100 and have decent lighting. In fact you could start with the PlanetBike Blaze 2 watt headlight for $60 (or the Blaze 1 if your really on a tight budget for $45) and then the Cateye TL-LD 610 taillight for $25 and be pretty satisfied till more money came to improve upon that.
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I repeat, the Terralux 220 lumen light is $28. That is what you need on a tight budget. Screw the bike specific lights, they suck.
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I repeat, the Terralux 220 lumen light is $28. That is what you need on a tight budget. Screw the bike specific lights, they suck.
Do you have a link? Is it a DX offering, or is there some U.S. based source?
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Do you have a link? Is it a DX offering, or is there some U.S. based source?
Here's one choice:

http://www.batteryjunction.com/tlf-3c2aaex.html

oops, just noticed it's on back order there...
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I repeat, the Terralux 220 lumen light is $28. That is what you need on a tight budget. Screw the bike specific lights, they suck.
Yikes! A P4 cree? Didn't know you could still buy them. No wonder they are so cheap.
You know that LED is only rated at 180lm...
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Yikes! A P4 cree? Didn't know you could still buy them. No wonder they are so cheap.
You know that LED is only rated at 180lm...
So you have a better idea for a AA light for $25? I can't wait. I'll be all over it. Oh, and only 180 lumens? Who gives a shlt for 25 bucks! Get two of the suckers.
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Personally I think rear and side illumination is the most important since most bike accidents at night are rearenders, but headlights cost more thus usually you will spend more on a headlight. But you could easily start with a headlight and a taillight for under $100 and have decent lighting. In fact you could start with the PlanetBike Blaze 2 watt headlight for $60 (or the Blaze 1 if your really on a tight budget for $45) and then the Cateye TL-LD 610 taillight for $25 and be pretty satisfied till more money came to improve upon that.
There are some VALUE options out there. Don't buy the toy "be seen" lights for the front. Those 1-3W jobs make good hiking lamps but terrible bike lamps. Worse yet for an extra $20-$40 you could get a REAL front light.

By now you must have heard about the Magicshine. It's available for about $83 on DealExtreme. For the rear, the latest and greatest is the Portland Design Works Radbot 1000. It's by far the best blink for the buck you'll find at $30. Add in $20 or so shipping and your at about $140 for a basic VALUE setup.
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Personally I think rear and side illumination is the most important since most bike accidents at night are rearenders, but headlights cost more thus usually you will spend more on a headlight. But you could easily start with a headlight and a taillight for under $100 and have decent lighting. In fact you could start with the PlanetBike Blaze 2 watt headlight for $60 (or the Blaze 1 if your really on a tight budget for $45) and then the Cateye TL-LD 610 taillight for $25 and be pretty satisfied till more money came to improve upon that.
There are some VALUE options out there. Don't buy the toy "be seen" lights for the front. Those 1-3W jobs make good hiking lamps but terrible bike lamps. Worse yet for an extra $20-$40 you could get a REAL front light.

By now you must have heard about the Magicshine. It's available for about $83 on DealExtreme. For the rear, the latest and greatest is the Portland Design Works Radbot 1000. It's by far the best blink for the buck you'll find at $30. Add in $20 or so shipping and your at about $140 for a basic VALUE setup.
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There are some VALUE options out there. Don't buy the toy "be seen" lights for the front. Those 1-3W jobs make good hiking lamps but terrible bike lamps. Worse yet for an extra $20-$40 you could get a REAL front light.

By now you must have heard about the Magicshine. It's available for about $83 on DealExtreme. For the rear, the latest and greatest is the Portland Design Works Radbot 1000. It's by far the best blink for the buck you'll find at $30. Add in $20 or so shipping and your at about $140 for a basic VALUE setup.
I've heard of the MS. It's on the short list.

I'm torn between the MS and running a two flashlight set-up- one flood, one thrower. The MS has the superior run time. The duo flashlights, by default, a redundant system. If one goes wonky, the other should still be operational.

Not familiar with the PDW. I'll have to google it.
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for the tight budget http://www.performancebike.com/bikes...4#ReviewHeader

It's not the best, but it works well enough to keep you off the curb and on the trail. If you're riding 20 mph in the dark... no. If you're riding along at 10 mph, it's more than enough to keep you from running into parked cars. It's a very good price. I've a couple.

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One or two of these. http://www.shiningbeam.com/servlet/t...II-Cree/Detail They run about 3.5 to 4 hours on a pair of 2700 Sanyo Nimh.
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One or two of these. http://www.shiningbeam.com/servlet/t...II-Cree/Detail They run about 3.5 to 4 hours on a pair of 2700 Sanyo Nimh.
I have this light and while nice, I still prefer using the Terralux. As far as the PDW tail light is concerned, there's a lengthy thread on it in this forum. There were some issues with it that apparently have been fixed. Looks like this one has replaced the Superflash as the "go to" cheap tail light.
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2 MTE P7's from deal extreme: http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.12623
A Planet Bike Super Flash ($20 on Amazon)
Ultra fire Wf-501b (red): http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.20333

I also have other sorted rear lights such as Mars 3.0, Niterider Cherry Bomb, and Planet Bike rack blinky 5. If you have a long commute you may want longer lasting front lights. Also, you don't have to buy everything at once. However if you do get the P7's and Ultrafire you will need to buy batteries and charger if you don't have one already.
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I have this light and while nice, I still prefer using the Terralux. As far as the PDW tail light is concerned, there's a lengthy thread on it in this forum. There were some issues with it that apparently have been fixed. Looks like this one has replaced the Superflash as the "go to" cheap tail light.

Nope: This ONE is Brighter and cheaper than the PBSF
http://www.pricepoint.com/detail/193...fety-Light.htm
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Nope: This ONE is Brighter and cheaper than the PBSF
http://www.pricepoint.com/detail/193...fety-Light.htm
And how would you rate against your coveted Dinotte?
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And how would you rate against your coveted Dinotte?

My 140L Dinotte is My Day Tail Light $140 New.
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And how would you rate against your coveted Dinotte?
None of the other tail lights come close to the DiNotte. The 400L rear light is the brightest, twice that of a 140L because it has two of the same LEDs found in the 140L. According to Geoman, Magicshine will have one out in the next month or two that may rival the DiNotte. Until then, nothing compares.

Some, on these forums and others, have made outrageous and demonstrably false claims about how their cheap tail light is as good as a DiNotte. I have yet to see any beamshots anywhere on the web that prove this to be even close to being the case.

The safest combination for the best value: MS in front and DiNotte 140L in the rear. If you don't trust the MS, buy a cheap flashlight for insurance (Terralux, Trustfire, etc.)
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Nope: This ONE is Brighter and cheaper than the PBSF
http://www.pricepoint.com/detail/193...fety-Light.htm
I guess I'd have to see beam shots to believe it. I've seen the PDW vs the Superflash and it wasn't close. But as you know, it's all child's play compared to the Dinotte.
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I guess I'd have to see beam shots to believe it. I've seen the PDW vs the Superflash and it wasn't close. But as you know, it's all child's play compared to the Dinotte.
The ST-316 Glo light and The PBSF are good lights for night riding.

The Dinotte is Great for Daylight riding.
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The ST-316 Glo light and The PBSF are good lights for night riding.

The Dinotte is Great for Daylight riding.
Personally, I ride with a Dinotte day and night. At night, I add a Superflash on the helmet strap.

So do you know of any beam shots for the Sette?
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