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Old 02-19-10, 11:55 AM   #1
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wireless computer -- suggestions?

it has been brought to my attention that my fred status is in jeopardy of being revoked if i don't get either a helmet mirror or a cycle computer... and i've opted to go the computer route.

now, i've looked at dozens of these things on the web and even manhandled a few a the lbs but, i have to admit, i'm at a bit of a loss. what i'm looking for is whatever most closely meets the following criteria:

want
- wireless. that's priority one.
- removable mounting system. preferably one where the mounting bracket can be removed easily from the handlebars. if the unit is a wristwatch or some other thing that doesn't require handlebar mounting, that's even better.
- trip odometer and avg speed in addition to the basic suite of options

don't want
- gps. really, seriously, no gps.
- hrm or cadence.
- wires.

really, the hardest part of that list is finding one with a mounting mechanism that doesn't require some sort of permanently-installed bracketing system on the handlebars.

suggestions anyone?
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Old 02-20-10, 05:22 AM   #2
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Cateye Strada. The head unit removes easily enough, although the wireless sensor attaches to the fork with small zip ties, and can't really be removed unless you have some replacement zip ties handy when you want to reattach it.
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well, i'm now leaning towards the sigma something-or-other (technically it's called the Bc1606ldts... but who the hell is supposed to be able to remember that?)

http://www.www.sigmasport.de/us/prod...6ldts/?flash=1

the big advantage is that the display unit is attached with some sort of o-ring set up that leaves no annoying mounting bracket on the handlebars (point #2 of my want list).

anyone ever used one of these? or even any product from sigma?
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Why wireless? The only good thing about it is that it looks a little cleaner and takes about 5 minutes less to install. Downsides are that it's far less reliable especially if you have HID or LED lighting and it takes batteries at a much higher rate. I've never really understood the appeal of wireless. I don't even use wireless internet in my house except for handheld devices, because it's slower and less reliable by far.
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I've used both wired and wireless Sigmas, now on my 3rd comp from them. I've also used VDO. Current one (Sigma 1606L) is wired, because I ride year round, my winter bike spends lots of time in the cold and so the wireless sensors all eat batteries for breakfast. It does have a mounting unit that stays in the handlebars, apparently the one you're looking at is different. In my experience Sigmas are OK products, nothing fancy but they do the job. Models change frequently, getting spare parts for a couple of years old model can be impossible. It's not just Sigma, I've had the same experience with VDO. Which is one reason I'm constantly looking into GPS based units, no need for any additional hardware. It seems to me they're not quite there yet.

Knog of Australia makes a wireless comp called NERD (the name alone should guarantee your fredness for years to come). I think it can be removed from handlebars, leaving just the sensor unit in the fork. They claim: "No signal or function interference from city **** like cell phones, lights, batteries or your buddy Ruperts freakin' blood hound." I like their marketing.

Both Polar and Suunto (and probably Garmin too, though I'm not familiar with their models) make HR wristwatch and/or bike comps that use traditional wireless sensors at wheel instead of GPS. You might want to look into those (Polar CS-and RS-series, Suunto T3/T4/T6). Of those, only the Polar CS series has reasonably good functions as a bike comp, on paper at least. All others take training session approach, requiring you to frequently upload the data to your laptop or some web site and keep track of total mileage there. Which may or may not be what you're looking for.

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Old 02-24-10, 09:17 AM   #6
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Cateye Strada. The head unit removes easily enough, although the wireless sensor attaches to the fork with small zip ties, and can't really be removed unless you have some replacement zip ties handy when you want to reattach it.
+1 on the Cateye Strada. I use that computer on two different bikes. Accurate, easy to set up, and neither one has ever lost their signal on me.
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Does anyone find that their wireless computer picks up interference from blinking headlights?

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Knog of Australia makes a wireless comp called NERD (the name alone should guarantee your fredness for years to come).
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well, isn't that just an awesome-looking piece of hardware? i took the time to check out some reviews and pictures and stuff and found that it

a) attaches to the bars with the same elasticized strap mech that the frog does. no permanent mounting bracket
b) is weatherproof. which is a bit of a deal for me, being an all-weather guy myself.
c) can optionally mount on the top tube
d) has a little bar graph thingy that tracks current speed vs. avg speed. not something that was on my "want" list, but now that i know it exists it feels indispensable.
e) gets generally positive reviews on its wireless reception.

and it comes in different colours. which, again, wasn't an issue until the option was presented to me...
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A wired computer is waaaaaaaay more Fred, lol. Wireless is soooooo 2000, you gotto go older than that if you want to maintain your status! ;-)

The sigma wireless looks like it just goes on and off with a strap as well -
http://www.rei.com/product/799882

I've heard varying reports of the range of different units, but if you really don't want to take it on and off the bike you might be able to just keep your wireless computer in your pocket! :-) (Note that some only transmit enough signal to reach the handlebars)

I know you said no gps, but come on - how awesome would it be to say "Where's my speedometer? Oh, it's in my wristwatch/gps!"
http://www.rei.com/product/767421

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well, isn't that just an awesome-looking piece of hardware? i took the time to check out some reviews and pictures and stuff and found that it

a) attaches to the bars with the same elasticized strap mech that the frog does. no permanent mounting bracket
b) is weatherproof. which is a bit of a deal for me, being an all-weather guy myself.
c) can optionally mount on the top tube
d) has a little bar graph thingy that tracks current speed vs. avg speed.
not something that was on my "want" list, but now that i know it exists it feels indispensable.
e) gets generally positive reviews on its wireless reception.

and it comes in different colours. which, again, wasn't an issue
until the option was presented to me...
Like I said, their marketing > Chuck Norris.

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Does anyone find that their wireless computer picks up interference from blinking headlights?

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Its been known to happen. Move the two further apart, or go wired.
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+1 Cateye Strada Wireless

Time between battery change = 1 year
Distance between battery change = 4500 miles
Time to replace: 5 minutes
Cost to replace 25 cents x2

dropped it
rained on
never lost signal ( I run a deal extreme flashing LED red flash light on my handles bars)
very easy to install
very easy to remove

Trouble free

wishes:
Back light or easier to read disply for my old eyes
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+1 Cateye Strada Wireless

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Back light or easier to read disply for my old eyes
knog nerd 12 has backlight... and has that speed bar thingy and comes in your choice of colours.
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or the planet bike protege 9.0. I have one for sell on ebay

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I love the Cateye Strada I just got. You can get it for $37 shipped from Amazon.
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I've been using a Cateye Micro Wireless for two seasons. Pretty easy to set up and has all the basic functions. The only thing I'd look for next time is a computer with cadence. So much better than the two Sigmas I had to return to the LBS because they wouldn't function properly or at all.
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the sigma 1609 is nice. cadence and all.
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Why wireless? The only good thing about it is that it looks a little cleaner and takes about 5 minutes less to install. Downsides are that it's far less reliable especially if you have HID or LED lighting and it takes batteries at a much higher rate. I've never really understood the appeal of wireless. I don't even use wireless internet in my house except for handheld devices, because it's slower and less reliable by far.
I agree with this...boo for me. But I had a wireless Cateye 2 and about 3 years went by and the sender died, but Cateye was fantastic and sent me a new one for free even though they knew the warranty expired. But then the new one died about 2 years later. Wireless also eat batteries but not too bad, I had to replace the sender bats about once or twice a year but the computer still has the original bats in it. I liked the wireless look but the last wired computer I had lasted 12 years without any issues except for three or four bat changes then the wire went bad at the end. Also when the temps dropped below freezing the wireless computer just died but the wired job never did that. I didn't notice any slowness with mine but reliability was a big enough concern for me that I went back to wired. I like Cateye because of their outstanding customer service so I went back to them for a wired job and got the Enduro 8...yeah it's on a road bike but the last wired job I had the wire went bad so I'll see what happens to this with the more rugged wire.

Wireless use to be the rage but now their just passe.

There is a post on Road Cycling that a person reported that his wireless had a 5 second delay between cadence and speed....that's a huge delay.
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I have the Sigma 1606L DTS with Cadence option. It is a solid reliable unit with quick twist detach and uses rubber rings with double sided tape to mount the computer. The unit NEVER works with my LED headlight on and even plays up with the tailight on which is about as much seperation as you can get. It burn through a set of batteries once or twice a year whcih don't cost a lot to replace.

I'm tempted to look at the knog if it works interference free..
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