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Old 04-28-10, 01:13 PM   #26
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Thanks for writing back and letting us know what you went with!

The one think I would say is that for convenience sake, it might be easiest to either run both lights off a single battery, or get a second charger for the 2nd battery. I store my bike by a power outlet at home, I just hook the charger up to the battery(s) every night. I don't have to mess around with taking them on and off the bike, or trying to remember how long it's been since I last charged them, they're just always ready to go.

On word of caution - don't leave the batteries hooked up to the light when you're not using them (physically disconnect them). They'll drain the battery, even though the light is off. I think it only took about a week to completely drain mine with the light off. (If they're not connected to a light, they'll hold their charge a really, really, really long time though)
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Old 04-28-10, 01:14 PM   #27
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haha yeah - good advice! I accidentally charged by battery on my bike too and I was like ... duh ... what a good idea!
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Old 04-28-10, 01:21 PM   #28
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I hate waiting for stuff. I have new MTB tires on the way and I made the mistake of having them delivered to my home and now I have to head them off before my current spouse sees them ... !
I ordered my frameset in early February. It's supposed to be here "soon." I've got all the parts ready and waiting ('cept for the stem), but can't get anything started until the frame/fork actually show up.
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Old 04-28-10, 01:28 PM   #29
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no wonder you were bashing stuff ... wutz up with the delay? is it custom?
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no wonder you were bashing stuff ... wutz up with the delay? is it custom?
No, just a box-stock 58cm SOMA Saga frameset. I'm guessing that the factory was back-logged.
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oh too bad - have something else to ride in the meantime?
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I can't believe how bright the 140L tail light is. Here's a video that shows the three flashing modes:

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My theory is that there are two factors for safety - visibility and awareness.

For example, if you are on a country road and there is nothing else around, any driver can see you easier than they would in a city setting. Similarly, wearing a bright red jersey is going to help drivers SEE you, but the problem is if they see you then tune you out or get distracted by something else.

I would say that the trick is then to make sure they PAY ATTENTION as they approach and pass.

Therefore you need to send the message "You need to pay attention to me" - hi vis yellow, flashing lights, and even an aggressive body posture is going to help.

A neon green ball peen hammer held menacingly in your hand would also give you a wide berth from most motorists, but would interfere with my aero tuck

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My theory is that there are two factors for safety - visibility and awareness.

For example, if you are on a country road and there is nothing else around, any driver can see you easier than they would in a city setting. Similarly, wearing a bright red jersey is going to help drivers SEE you, but the problem is if they see you then tune you out or get distracted by something else.

I would say that the trick is then to make sure they PAY ATTENTION as they approach and pass.

Therefore you need to send the message "You need to pay attention to me" - hi vis yellow, flashing lights, and even an aggressive body posture is going to help.

A neon green ball peen hammer held menacingly in your hand would also give you a wide berth from most motorists, but would interfere with my aero tuck

Excellent points. It's one thing to be seen or noticed, but another thing entirely to remain on their radar.

I'm going to run an amber Dinotte in front in the flashing mode to help reduce the risk of getting cut off by oncoming drivers making left-hand turns.


Does anyone make a Ti/Carbon ball peen hammer in neon green?
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Old 05-07-10, 02:46 AM   #35
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+1 & - $$s on the diNotte!

Got the 400L about two months ago solely for daytime protection on our rides. Boy do these things work. Here, there's no stopping by drivers at intersections. They just wonder on in and it's every vehicle for themselves. Bikes don't even register on drivers' radar. The amber light in strobe mode changes that. Get cut off a lot less. Also get a much wider berth with the red strobe at the rear. A MAJOR investment, but there's nothing else like it. I wish they were evan brighter. Also wish they had a quick release on these, but can't have everything. In addition to the added LED, a key reason we went with the 400 over the 140 was that we could not mount it on the stoker's seatpost as it would be obscured by our racktop trunk bag.

Glad to see Geoman is about to enter the game to provide a less expensive alternative. But so far he's only planning to offer red, so only half way there. We use his original 900 Magicshine when we head out real early though.
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Here's a quick & dirty video that I threw together that shows the Dinotte 120L (red), Radbot 500, and Dinotte 200L (amber):


The 120L/red is on the left, the Radbot is in the middle, and the 200L/amber is on the right. Taken right before 6:00PM, and the camera is facing west.
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