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    Anyone using a Light & Motion Vis 180 taillight yet?

    I did a double-take when browsing my Excel Sports catalog. L&M concocted a Li-ion taillight with amber side markers, USB chargeable, 35 lumens, reasonably light & compact, and has a passive reflector too. The flash mode is briefly shown in this video:

    http://www.youtube.com/user/LnMEngin.../0/Z-rqH-Yt4_Y

    I'm a little underwhelmed at the "sine-wave" flash mode... the more you can differentiate yourself from the background, the better, and I would've rather seen a strobe-style flash. Anyway... anyone got any firsthand reports on these?

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    at 99.00, it was not that impressive.. I think the side markers and mounting system are very nice touches but at that price point it would be a tough sell..

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    The most impressive LED light Taillight I have found:

    New illuminx Light n' Lifesaver Emergency LED
    Strobe Light With 9 Strobe Settings Including
    Waterproof, Visible up To 8,000 Feet,
    Crush Resistant Capsule & Magnetic Base

    https://www.dailysteals.com/Daily-De...f-Up-To-80.asp
    http://www.bikeforums.net/showthread...1#post11252068

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    Senior Member socalrider's Avatar
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    NICE but how does it attach to your bike, it only says magnetic base??

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    I wrote L&M about it, and they were very vague about the battery and if it can be replaced. With only an eight hour listed runtime I can imagine that after awhile the runtime will be less, and it would be nice if you could replace the battery. The idea of a $100 disposable taillight doesn't sit well with me.

    EDIT: I just re-read my email correspondence with L&M and they did confirm that the battery is not user replaceable.

    Here's a snippet of our correspondence.

    We don’t create product for disposal. If the battery were to lose life in the warranty period, we would replace. If the light runs its course, we will have a program in place for recycling. The exact details have not been determined, as this is a brand new product for us, but please be assured that we do not want this product thrown away.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ziemas View Post
    I wrote L&M about it, and they were very vague about the battery and if it can be replaced. With only an eight hour listed runtime I can imagine that after awhile the runtime will be less, and it would be nice if you could replace the battery. The idea of a $100 disposable taillight doesn't sit well with me.
    From what I've heard, $100 would be a good deal for a L&M replacement battery, so just throwing it away and buying a new one might be the best deal! (OK, I'm joking).
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    Senior Member socalrider's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by ItsJustMe View Post
    From what I've heard, $100 would be a good deal for a L&M replacement battery, so just throwing it away and buying a new one might be the best deal! (OK, I'm joking).
    The battery is integrated into the tailight, it is not a full size lion battery pack.. They also have a bigger light that has a weaker runtime and is $169.00.. I say these lights are going to fail in selling..

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    bump, anyone using one of these, i can probably get one for around $80 at the lbs? any user reviews at this point??

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    performance bike as a 20% sale on lights...

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    Since they're so new, and L&M hasn't set its recycle-replace policy yet, you're just not going to get any long-term reviews.

    But, I got one after buying my Vis 360 helmet light. I really like how both of these recharge via USB (my laptop is always nearby), and the 180's mount is one of the few that will fit my road bike's aero-shaped seat tube. It seems solidly constructed. The light won't just slide out of its bracket -- you have to push a button (the little red one marked "pivot lock" in their pictures), pivot it down against the bracket, then push-and-slide. I don't think it's going to just bounce off the bike.

    Anyway, I like it so far. Bright, compact, well-built, and convenient.

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    How hard do you think it would be to drill a hole through the back of the mount? I'm interested in one of these lights, but only if I could bolt the mount to my rear rack.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mbcharbonneau View Post
    How hard do you think it would be to drill a hole through the back of the mount? I'm interested in one of these lights, but only if I could bolt the mount to my rear rack.
    The best rear rack light, IMO, is one powered by a generator hub...

    I'm out-of-state and can't take a look at mine. I think you might be able to drill the mount, but you'd need the screw to fit either flush or countersunk so it doesn't block the sliding arm of the light body.

    Better pic of the mount in their owner's manual:
    http://www.bikelights.com/support/en...905-0333-A.pdf

    I'd also say to contact them and see what they say.

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