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Old 09-15-10, 09:37 AM   #1
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DiNotte Has A New Self-Contained USB Rechargeable Taillight

DiNotte has just released a new totally self contained USB rechargeable taillight with a QR mount. That's the good news.

The bad news is that it's $200.

I've yet to see any info on lumens or runtime.

http://store.dinottelighting.com/sha...t=products.asp

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Old 09-15-10, 10:08 AM   #2
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Looks interesting, but it's too much money for a new product in today's market, and it still doesn't incorporate a reflector.
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Given the "300R" name, I speculate that it's intended to be about 300 lumens. I think I'll get one, because (1) I like the relatively civilized DiNotte flash patterns, (2) I've been wanting a high-output self-contained light, and (3) knowing DiNotte, they'll back it up really well if there's issues for us foolish early adopters Stay tuned...
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Given the "300R" name, I speculate that it's intended to be about 300 lumens. I think I'll get one, because (1) I like the relatively civilized DiNotte flash patterns, (2) I've been wanting a high-output self-contained light, and (3) knowing DiNotte, they'll back it up really well if there's issues for us foolish early adopters Stay tuned...
Nope. Their other taillights don't follow that convention, so I can't imagine this one does.
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Yeah, their headlight model numbers seem to indicate lumen output, but not the taillights.
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Nope. Their other taillights don't follow that convention, so I can't imagine this one does.
The 140's were supposed to be around 140 lumens. At any rate, DiNotte does say it's brighter than a 140, but "not quite" as bright as the 400R, so it should be well-suited to daytime visibility, which is the main thing for me. I think I'll mount it down near rear-axle level, rather than at the seatpost, so a motorist stopped behind me in traffic will be spared from point-blank exposure.
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So many posters here are worried about the poor drivers getting lights in there eyes, when we get to 1000 lumen taillights, will they be singing the same song..
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The 140's were supposed to be around 140 lumens. At any rate, DiNotte does say it's brighter than a 140, but "not quite" as bright as the 400R, so it should be well-suited to daytime visibility, which is the main thing for me. I think I'll mount it down near rear-axle level, rather than at the seatpost, so a motorist stopped behind me in traffic will be spared from point-blank exposure.
According to DiNotte they are 120 lumens, but they don't say if that is out the front or emitter.

http://www.dinottelighting.com/LED_b...t--limited.htm
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I wrote Dinotte and asked about runtimes and battery replacement. Here's the jist of the reply I got.


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4/8/16 hours on the steady modes (H/M/L)

Slow strobe = 12 hours

Six hours for both other strobe modes

Battery is not field replace-able – but we will offer a replacement at a reasonable cost (hasn’t been determined yet)
The runtimes and actually having a replacement battery option seem a lot better than the new Light and Motion taillight, although the DiNotte is twice the cost.
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I've been on the bubble about buying a Dinotte light for 2 years and I just bought this light after about 30 seconds of thinking about it. This nails all my requirements for a battery-powered taillight: wicked bright, self-contained, quick-release, long enough runtime for my 44 mile r/t commute, and easy to charge. Just this morning I was wondering if Dinotte would release a new product this fall that would come closer to the ideal, and bingo, they've got at least one sale. This will be my "oh hey! howya doin'!" light to compliment my steady-on, dynamo-powered taillight
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Battery is not field replace-able – but we will offer a replacement at a reasonable cost (hasn’t been determined yet)
So it needs to be sent to Dinotte to have it replaced? That means needing two lights, and also means dealing with international shipments/customs/etc for some of us.

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The runtimes and actually having a replacement battery option seem a lot better than the new Light and Motion taillight, although the DiNotte is twice the cost.
Do we actually know that the L&M battery can't be replaced at all? Even by L&M?
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140R = 120 Lumens.
400R = 240 Lumens.

With the 300R "in between the 140R and 400R" it should give you a good indication about it's brightness.

Interesting too see how people find all kinds of reasons not like this light. Reality is that in high output, high quality tail lights, Dinotte is the only player in town. I own the 400R and a whole slew of AA/AAA operated lights (Mars 3.0) Cateye LD1100 (sp?) and I've yet to see a light that comes close in lumens and build quality.

If I didn't already have the 400r, I'd be buying this today.
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So it needs to be sent to Dinotte to have it replaced? That means needing two lights, and also means dealing with international shipments/customs/etc for some of us.



Do we actually know that the L&M battery can't be replaced at all? Even by L&M?
It seems that way from an email I received from them when I asked. Maybe thing will change, but if they do offer a replacement battery it will most likely be quite expensive as all their other batteries are.

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We don’t create product for disposal. If the battery were to lose life in the warranty period, we would replace. If the light runs its course, we will have a program in place for recycling. The exact details have not been determined, as this is a brand new product for us, but please be assured that we do not want this product thrown away.
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OK, someone buy one and give us a hands on review
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OK, someone buy one and give us a hands on review
I'm waiting for mine and will put up a report when it comes in.
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Run time seem a bit short...at least with the other rear lights you can bring along extra batteries.
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Run time seem a bit short...at least with the other rear lights you can bring along extra batteries.
Twelve hours on slow strobe isn't bad, but is on the others in a bit short. Personally I'm not interested in steady modes. We'll have to wait and see just had slow 'slow' mode really is. The strobe on the new L&M self-contained light seems quite slow, and the runtime is only 8 hours.
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Twelve hours on slow strobe isn't bad, but is on the others in a bit short. Personally I'm not interested in steady modes. We'll have to wait and see just had slow 'slow' mode really is. The strobe on the new L&M self-contained light seems quite slow, and the runtime is only 8 hours.
I'd assume the blink modes are the same as their other lights. Personally I never found Dinotte slow strobe to be useful, it's a very short blink every 1.5 seconds or so. Too little light for my tastes.
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I'd assume the blink modes are the same as their other lights. Personally I never found Dinotte slow strobe to be useful, it's a very short blink every 1.5 seconds or so. Too little light for my tastes.
Jaa, that sounds waaaay to slow. Too bad.
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Jaa, that sounds waaaay to slow. Too bad.
OTOH, their other blink modes are the best ones out there. One is constant low with a high blink about twice a second. The other is constant low with a burst of 5 high power flashes together; looks like an emergency vehicle strobe and is definitely attention getting.
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One is constant low with a high blink about twice a second
That's the one I use. Sample of the pulse frequency:
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So many posters here are worried about the poor drivers getting lights in there eyes, when we get to 1000 lumen taillights, will they be singing the same song..
How many high power and what brand/bin LED's would I need for a 1000L red tail light? I know I want one and that would likely be the equalizer of tail lights.
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OK. I have Exposure lights/Magicshine lights and a DiNotte 400R Tail light. The DiNotte 400R Tail light RULES. There are 3 stobe modes. I have been out 6-7 hrs and the strobe mode stays strong. Great in dark AND daylight. Recharges faster than MS and Exposure lights. Great quality product. If I didn't have the 400R I would jump on their new light.
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If it pumps out at least 120 lumens like the model 140 does, I'd say the price is pretty good. The L&M Vis 180 rechargeable claims only 35 lumens and they want $100 for it.

You get what you pay for. I've had the DiNotte 140R-AA for two years now riding 5 days a week and it's solid as a rock.
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I've got the 300R paired up with a Cygolite Trion 600. The 300R run times are on Dinottes website. Being new to running bike lights, I can only say that I'm very impressed with the 300R. I run the light in the fast flash mode and, as I recall, the run time is 12 hours. This matches up with the 12 hour ( fast flash ) run time of my Trion 600. Both lights recharge fairly quickly, mount and dismount with ease, and no wires.

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Hi,

I recently purchased a 300R tail light and am extremely pleased with the light. I was wondering if it is possible, and if Dinotte has any plans, to provide an external battery pack that would plug into the USB recharging port? It would be a nice feature to extend the 4 hour run time, at 100%, to something greater with external batteries.
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No official answer on this yet. We’re looking at a few options. It might be something we’ll have outlined around February.

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Hampton NH, 03842 USA

general email: sales@dinottelighting.com



Tel: 603 929 0123

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