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Old 11-16-10, 02:28 PM   #1
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What are you using instead of the Magicshine battery?

Did you switch to a different battery? Or are you using different lights for now? I'm back to the AA lights, a Teralux on the helmet with another Teralux and L2D on the handlebars. I'll see how well they work on the way home tonight, and imagine I'll do ok even if I will be charging more batteries more often now.

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Old 11-16-10, 02:31 PM   #2
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Still using my Magicshine. Figure riding a bike is more dangerous than using the battery packs
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Old 11-16-10, 04:04 PM   #3
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I am looking aggressively for options to replace my battery and keep the lights. I went to Batteries Plus at lunchtime today to see if they could set me up with an equivalent replacement. After 20 minutes of discussing options, no luck.
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I am looking aggressively for options to replace my battery and keep the lights. I went to Batteries Plus at lunchtime today to see if they could set me up with an equivalent replacement. After 20 minutes of discussing options, no luck.
You went to the wrong place. Go to Batteryspace. You can pick up exact duplicates (18650 2p2s) or other configurations.
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Old 11-16-10, 05:39 PM   #5
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Another option is to use 2P2S 18650 cell holders and some DX sourced cells and chargers, which you could then monitor with an inexpensive multimeter. Hardest part would be finding and fitting the right connector to mate to the MS light head.
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Old 11-16-10, 06:48 PM   #6
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I've been using Dinotte batteries all along. I figured they were older than MS batteries - so cycle them the most and spare the MS until you need them.

For anyone who cares, the Dintotte batteries have such a superior velcro-strap attachment system that it is almost worth going to Dinotte and buying their straps and O-rings.
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Old 11-16-10, 07:02 PM   #7
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I use my MS and just keep an eye on it when I charge the batteries.
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I use my MS and just keep an eye on it when I charge the batteries.
Same goes here. I had a spare battery I just started using. I'll just keep using that and if the lighthead is still ok after that battery die, than I'll just order another battery pack elsewhere.

If my lighthead totally die, than that's ok also. I've got two MG X Thrower on my drop bar and just got a MG P Rocket flashlight that has the XG-P R5 which is not too bad in brightness and runtime. I'll use that to replace my MS light when they all meet it's final hours. The MS is usually run on Medium setting anyway so that XG-P R5 should be fine.
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Old 11-16-10, 08:34 PM   #9
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I'm still using mine. I swore(just yesterday i believe) that I would not babysit my battery. Well I am. It is sitting in an ammo box on my living room floor charging away happily. I might switch the charging to work where I tend to remain in 1 room for a few hours at a time.
But If/when I do change I am going to go with individual cells and a holder. There's a guy on mtbr.com that makes holders that you build(screw and wire together) to your own specs. You can use 2, 4 6 or more batteries. Charging will be a little more difficult but at least you can determine which cell goes bad. I am also going to get a decent charger because that might be the problem w/ MS. This guy also makes powerful headlamp kits that you put together yourself. All the kits seem simple with a little soldering skill. I don't have the guys info with me but will post tomorrow if folks are interested.
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You went to the wrong place. Go to Batteryspace. You can pick up exact duplicates (18650 2p2s) or other configurations.
Thanks, that looks promising. I am not clear about what battery pack is an exact replacement for the MS battery. None of them have the same connector, so I assume that I'd have to cut off the connector from my MS battery and splice it onto one of these. I'm somewhat comfortable with hacking up stuff like that, but don't have any experience with batteries. Is it straightforward or is there an element of risk of wiring it up wrong.

Sorry, but I'm just looking for some guidance from my BF brethren. Thanks!
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Old 11-16-10, 09:10 PM   #11
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Are the original batteries from over 1 year ago still fine.. I have to top mine off before rides but it is still working 2.5 hours on high mode... I see some of the older style batteries being sold on ebay right now..

http://cgi.ebay.com/Rechargeable-440...item3cb247a1a5
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I've been using Dinotte batteries all along. I figured they were older than MS batteries - so cycle them the most and spare the MS until you need them.

For anyone who cares, the Dintotte batteries have such a superior velcro-strap attachment system that it is almost worth going to Dinotte and buying their straps and O-rings.
I have the newer MS battery, the round one. It has a great velcro strap. Are you talking about the square older MS battery. I wonder if both models are the problem? I charged my battery next to me last night(rather cozy, the 2 of us). Took about 3 hours, never got hot, charger was warm but never hot. I don't know if any of this is worthy or not but just reporting in.
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Electrical folks: My electrical engineering degree was with-held pending further notice(just like China's So if you don't mind please correct any faults you see.

What I think: MS battery is (or needs to be) 18650, 2P2S, 7.4V and 4400MAH. Is this correct?? If so will the following system work?

18650 Li-Ion Cell holders:
http://www.luminousdiy.com/Light%20K...ts.htm#holders

18650 Li-Ion cells(MADE IN JAPAN OR KOREA!!!!!!!), I will need at least 4, yes??
http://tinyurl.com/2vyhdq3

Charger: so far all I have found is a 2 cell charger and smart chargers. Need to learn more about this.
http://www.luminousdiy.com/Light%20K...arts.htm#cells


OR just buy this pack

http://tinyurl.com/2er5v77


Use a compatible smart charger like this????

http://tinyurl.com/3xhmncg

Thanks for any input
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Thanks, that looks promising. I am not clear about what battery pack is an exact replacement for the MS battery. None of them have the same connector, so I assume that I'd have to cut off the connector from my MS battery and splice it onto one of these. I'm somewhat comfortable with hacking up stuff like that, but don't have any experience with batteries. Is it straightforward or is there an element of risk of wiring it up wrong.

Sorry, but I'm just looking for some guidance from my BF brethren. Thanks!
This one is an exact replacement by which I mean same voltage, capacity and configuration. You'll have to find the proper connector. I haven't measured the plug so I'm not sure of the size, however you could just take the lead off the dead Magicshine or purchase an extension cable and use half of it so that you'll have the battery intact for the recall.
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This one is an exact replacement by which I mean same voltage, capacity and configuration. You'll have to find the proper connector. I haven't measured the plug so I'm not sure of the size, however you could just take the lead off the dead Magicshine or purchase an extension cable and use half of it so that you'll have the battery intact for the recall.
Looks good. This also looks good and might have the correct connector but is flat not square
http://tinyurl.com/2er5v77
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I've been using Dinotte batteries all along. I figured they were older than MS batteries - so cycle them the most and spare the MS until you need them.

For anyone who cares, the Dintotte batteries have such a superior velcro-strap attachment system that it is almost worth going to Dinotte and buying their straps and O-rings.
Do the Dinotte cable connectors work with the Magicshine light, or do you need to replace the connectors?
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Old 11-17-10, 10:46 AM   #17
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Do the Dinotte cable connectors work with the Magicshine light, or do you need to replace the connectors?
The connector does work... but you will need to trim the waterproof shield on either the MS Cable or on the Dinotte cable for it to fit. Its a tighter fit too but it does work.
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Oh, and the new Dinotte batteries are very nice. There older batteries from about 3 years ago had a similar issue to the MS batteries of today and were recalled.
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... I haven't measured the plug so I'm not sure of the size...
I measured it at 5.5mmx2.1mm, but someone should double check that.
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This one is an exact replacement by which I mean same voltage, capacity and configuration. You'll have to find the proper connector. I haven't measured the plug so I'm not sure of the size, however you could just take the lead off the dead Magicshine or purchase an extension cable and use half of it so that you'll have the battery intact for the recall.
I'm not positive, but these look very close to what I have.

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FYI, this arrived last night:

To Our Valued Geomangear Customers,

Geomangear temporarily has stopped selling Magicshine lightsets due to our concerns regarding the safety, quality, and performance of Magicshine's lithium-ion battery packs sold by Geomangear between July 2009 and November 2010. We have determined that these Magicshine battery packs do not meet Geomangear's high expectations regarding product safety, quality, and performance. We have notified both the manufacturer of Magicshine lightsets and the United States Consumer Product Safety Commission that Geomangear intends to voluntarily recall all Magicshine battery packs sold by Geomangear.

We are actively working with the Safety Commission, outside engineering consultants, and a new battery pack supplier to evaluate product recall options for our customers. Geomangear will provide recall information and instructions directly to our affected customers after our final corrective action plan has been approved by the Safety Commission.

If you bought a Magicshine lightset from us between June 2009 and November 2010, please discontinue using your lightset until we are able to provide you with an upgraded replacement battery pack. Despite our best efforts, this process will take some time, and we ask for your patience. You can rest assured that Geomangear has taken, and will continue to take, appropriate steps to protect the safety of our customers, and we will stand behind our products. We sincerely apologize for any inconvenience this may cause you and appreciate your continued loyalty and support during this unprecedented situation our company is facing.

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I'm not positive, but these look very close to what I have.
The Magicshine I have has a waterproofing collar around the plug. That may make fitting the above plug to other existing MS plugs difficult. I'd purchase an extension cord from Geoman just to make sure I had the right plug set up.
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Hey Cycommute.
What does the label mean by CHINA CELL? My guess it's there for a reason.
Also If I bought a battery say 5500mah could I still use my Magic Shine charger or need a safe charger.

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Hey Cycommute.
What does the label mean by CHINA CELL? My guess it's there for a reason.
Also If I bought a battery say 5500mah could I still use my Magic Shine charger or need a safe charger.

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Probably Chinese cells instead of Korean or Japanese, which are better, but more expensive, cells.

I'd suspect that you could use the Magic Shine charger but it would take longer to charge up the pack.
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