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Old 03-29-11, 07:54 PM   #1
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NiteRider Sol, NiteRider MiNewt 250, Light & Motion Vis 360, or Cygolite Expillion?

I'm looking at getting one of the following lights - NiteRider Sol, NiteRider MiNewt 250 Cordless, Light & Motion Vis 360 or Cygolite Expillion 180. I don't plan to do much night riding, just occasional dusk or dawn(daylight savings), there are some street lights. I want to be visible to traffic, plus see the road. Any recommendations or thoughts? Thanks
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Old 03-29-11, 09:47 PM   #2
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I can tell you what NOT to buy; that would be the NR MiNewt 250 Cordless. Purchased about 3 months ago, used once and provided good lighting. Recharged light, pressed on button, light does not stay on...only flashes for milisecond each press of the button. Contacted NR company; return light for service. NR has nice lights when they work, however, you can't rely on them to work and consequently must always have a 2nd non-NR branded back-up light. Have heard excellent things about Cygo-Lites; many former NR owners use them.
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Old 03-30-11, 05:42 AM   #3
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I have the Expilion 250. I use it on my helmet for after-work rides during the winter. Got it for Christmas 2010.

I have a Magic Shine 900 on the handle bar. The Expilion is the light I can aim through corners, and it adds to the total beam on straight section.

Before dark, I use the beacon mode to draw attention, and it works.

Generally, I can run the Expilion on medium or low and get plenty of light.

Thus far, it has been reliable.

I don't have any experience with the others. I am pleased with the Expilion.
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Old 03-30-11, 07:29 AM   #4
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I've also got the MS900/Expilion250 combo. I had purchased the Cygolite with the hopes of replacing the MS light (I really am looking to get rid of the external batteries/cables of the MS light).

I do like the Expilion a lot, and although it's noticably dimmer than the MS 900, it's still plenty bright for most conditions. Throwing out more light than a MS is a lot to ask afterall.

The lack of cables/external batteries is nice and it's easily portable. IF you're looking at the expilion 180, I'd give the 250 a look too.

I had an old Niterider lightset with the big water bottle battery. It was a great light- real bright and good ride time (battery life). I only stopped using it because the battery was so cumbersome. Can't really speak for any of their newer lights though.

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Old 03-30-11, 08:32 AM   #5
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It's been a few years since I bought a big rechargeable light, partly because I've had such good service with the two Cygolites I've bought. Good value, good lights, good run-time, good water-proofing (necessary for commuting), work well -- what's not to like?

I wore out the SLA battery on my first light, and they had replacement parts available for purchase. It's still going with the new battery, as far as I know, since I gave it to my daughter. Ran the newer one just last night, it's still going.
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Old 03-31-11, 02:34 PM   #6
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I use a Serfas TSL 250. It's just as good as Cygo-lite but I think it's like $10 cheaper at $120
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I am using the NR 250; only had it a few months. So far, so good. Plently of light. I keep it on low except fot the couple miles of bike trail.
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I use a Planet Bike 2W blaze for dawn/dusk and collision avoidance, ~100+ lumens and run of 2AAs. Dedicated rechargeable lights are good for serious night riding, but if the battery isn't charged, you're hosed. With the AA Blaze, the batteries last quite a few hours (depending on high , low or flashing) and you can just stick in a new set in when needed. I get cars flashing their highs at me even on heavy overcast days using the Blaze in flash mode.

For more extensive nighttime excursions, I use a 700 lumen rechargeable with a Blaze as a backup.
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Old 04-01-11, 07:17 PM   #9
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The Serfas has a removable battery so you can hang on to a couple and swap them out as needed.

And what kind of 700 lumen light do you use?
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I've got the NR 250 cordless too and I just dropped it. IT JUST BROKE! RAH!!!! When I hook it up to the charger it lights up red and green but it won't turn on at any point. I would suggest fitting some kinda casing around it. I literally just dropped it from a little bit above hip level when I pulled a shirt out of my bag and didn't realize it was there. Learn from my errors!
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"NR has nice lights when they work, however, you can't rely on them to work and consequently must always have a 2nd non-NR branded back-up light."
I can't speak for the cordless NR lights, but I have had and currently have a couple NR's that work great, are light weight and always work flawleesly.
Currently I have the Niterider Minewt usb plus (110 lumens) and the new Minewt usb 150 (150 lumens). I'm always amazed how much bright light can come out of such a small, compact and lightweight system. I've never had any gripes about these lights.

Keep up the good work Niterider!

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Old 04-06-11, 07:20 PM   #12
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Has anybody ever tried the Trek Ion Rechargable? Our LBS has one but it is rated at 15000 candles but most rate theirs in Lumens. If I convert the candles it is way out there.
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I'm looking at getting one of the following lights - NiteRider Sol, NiteRider MiNewt 250 Cordless, Light & Motion Vis 360 or Cygolite Expillion 180. I don't plan to do much night riding, just occasional dusk or dawn(daylight savings), there are some street lights. I want to be visible to traffic, plus see the road. Any recommendations or thoughts? Thanks
check out this flashlight: http://www.dealextreme.com/p/flood-t...nt-3-aaa-26800

for the price you can't go wrong and for it's brightness, it's even better. i would say it's about 150-200 lumens (or more). i had 2 of these and can't speak highly enough (because it's just economically sound).
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Have no experience with any of them, but one of the local shops has both NR and the Cygolight Expillion. If weight is any kind of a factor in your decision process, opt for the Cygo.
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Has anybody ever tried the Trek Ion Rechargable? Our LBS has one but it is rated at 15000 candles but most rate theirs in Lumens. If I convert the candles it is way out there.
this is just a 1 watt rechargeable bike light. not worth it's price of $99. go to dealextreme.com and you will find cree flashlight that you can use as bike light. they are way cheaper but so bright. i don't work for them but have bought those lights and i just love them (especially the price).
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I'm looking at getting one of the following lights - NiteRider Sol, NiteRider MiNewt 250 Cordless, Light & Motion Vis 360 or Cygolite Expillion 180. I don't plan to do much night riding, just occasional dusk or dawn(daylight savings), there are some street lights. I want to be visible to traffic, plus see the road. Any recommendations or thoughts? Thanks
if you're limited to these lights, my suggestion is go with the light and motion. i have a L&M 120 and i like it a lot. light is so small, it is so light and the beam is on a bright side.
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Competitive Cyclist has the NR on sale for $110.
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You can also find some really good deals on some New Old Stock NR Trinewts around the internets these days. I plugged it into qbike.com and could find some reputable online shops hawking it for < $200. That's a steal for a Trinewt. If I didn't already have a Minewt 200 and an MS 900 and an old NiteHawk Halogen, I'd probably bite. My Minewt battery has been rock solid for years.
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I've got the NiteRider MiNewt 250 cordless and it's been great so far. I haven't used it in the rain yet, so we'll see how that goes. The light is bright enough for poorly lit sections of bike trail, but if I had the money I would have honestly gotten something brighter - but I do a LOT of nighttime riding.
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