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Old 09-13-11, 09:38 PM   #151
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as a commuter who uses video for police evidence, i like 60fps for snapping sharp images of number plates, but i use 1280x720, 60fps... another mode that's missing from the new contour. why do they call it "Action HD - 1280 x 720 @ 30/25fps"??? 30fps will miss a lot action.
I set my Contour to the 1920 x 1080P @ 30fps with the resolution on maximum, since US plates are not the size of billboards like NZ plates, I need all the clarity I can get. I tagged one motorist last month, with a clear shot of his rear plate, vehicle model emblems and even a rear window decal, all at a 40 mph speed difference.
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I set my Contour to the 1920 x 1080P @ 30fps with the resolution on maximum, since US plates are not the size of billboards like NZ plates, I need all the clarity I can get. I tagged one motorist last month, with a clear shot of his rear plate, vehicle model emblems and even a rear window decal, all at a 40 mph speed difference.
nice

and then there's UK plates, which are like are-code + phone number.

i've currently got a pair of HERO-960s, which only support up to 960p, and no 60fps; and a contour-1300. i've got a HERO-1080 on the way, and i'll (hopefully soon) get a 2nd contour-1300 and upgrade the 2nd HERO-960 to a HERO-1080.

then... with 3-6 cameras all recording at the same time, on different modes, take the test setup to an RLJ hot spot

then we'll see what cameras on what modes catch plates and of course i'll provide any evidence of illegal activity to the police and post test results on youtube.
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then... with 3-6 cameras all recording at the same time,

There's a handful of downloads.
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Old 09-13-11, 10:58 PM   #154
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for downhill MTB, handlebar and helmet cameras are all you need. if you intend to use your video as evidence (road rage, unsafe passing, tailgating, etc), add a rear camera.

for road racing... it could go either way. if you're always in the back, a rear camera isn't much use
No need to ride on the roads here. We have a massive MUP system and I seem to be the only one on them. LOL.
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Old 09-13-11, 11:03 PM   #155
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I just recorded a guy pulling a boat just about kill a few dozen racers at Iron Man this past weekend. He's for sure going to be on You Tube.
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Old 09-16-11, 06:30 AM   #156
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Well if you've got nothing better to do for the next 30 minutes.....

My first and second bicycle videos. They are only my 4th and 5th videos ever. LOL.


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Nice videos! I like how sunny it is in NV
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Nice videos! I like how sunny it is in NV
Thank you. I like how sunny it is too. And it rained earlier in the day.
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.... I like how sunny it is in NV
In July, nighttime can be one's friend, at least it was the last time I was in Sin City.

I still cannot get over on how brown everything was, then come back to the shocking greens of the Pacific NW.
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It rained 3 days last week. When it started it was a welcome relief. But after two days I was ready for the sunshine again and as hot as it can get, it's still pleasant to commute all summer long. I venture to say we have more perfect "outdoor days" than just about anywhere else on the planet.
I don't see brown. I see gold and red and lavender. This picture was taken at the bike race turn-around but 4 years earlier. This is how I see the desert.

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Old 09-17-11, 11:31 PM   #161
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The proprietary battery for the CountouHrD has been reduced by $5 on Amazon. This tells me it is on its way out as well. I picked up one today as well as another 32GB of memory. I also found the Contour line AC/USB wall charger for $9.99. I intend to use a helmet camera and a handlebar mount at the same time on my bicycle and I intend to use a fender mount and a helmet mount on my motorcycle as well.
Traveling through Utah, by bicycle or motorcycle will require a bunch of battery and memory. I hope I'm good to go. I have a 4 day road trip in Utah in 3 weeks. This one is all about the photo shoot.
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Well, I've made some changes and additions to my camera lineup since I last posted in this thread.

First, I got a 32 GB Class 10 memory card for my ContourHD. It works great, much faster than the 16 GB Class 4 I was using before. The only quirk is that the memory card status light is always red, no matter what. This is a known issue with 32 GB memory cards and many people have reported the same problem, yet Contour has not released a firmware update to address the issue.

Last week, I got the new Contour Flex Strap Mount, which I wrapped around my head tube for last weekend's ride in the hills. It worked great! The video was much smoother than my handlebar or helmet mount videos. You can see for yourself here.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dyUBIrmTc8E

Yesterday, I took a ride to REI and picked up two clearance model cameras-the Midland XTC-100 and the GoPro HD Hero 960. They were $63.93 and $149.95 respectively. I bought the last ones they had.

The Midland records in SD 640x480 30fps. The quality can't compare to the lowest resolution setting on my Contour, but it's passable for random and non-critical footage. I like the small size and the fact that it takes 2 AAA batteries. I got two 4-packs of low-discharge Lenmar rechargeables (similar to Eneloops) for $7.99 each at Fry's Electronics. I already had a couple brand new ones laying around from an earlier purchase, so I charged them up and got at least 2 hours of recording time. Now I have 8 more of those batteries since they worked so well.

The camera comes with handlebar and helmet mounts and two other mounts. The handlebar mount was crap. It never stayed in place, and rolling shutter was more pronounced due to shakiness in the mount. The camera's tripod hole is not deep enough to use a different mount with a standard tripod screw like my Manfrotto Super Clamp, so I bought a small rubber washer from the hardware store and put it over the screw between the Manfrotto mount and the camera. The Manfrotto and the right-angle ball mount I have on it (to keep the camera pointed in the right direction) are made of alloy and brass, so there are no loosening or flex issues that can cause rolling shutter.

Here's a short test video from the Midland. I caught up to a guy riding his BMX bike on a flat rear tire, so I decided to use that footage since that was the only semi-interesting thing I saw today.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vQDlr2Pj53A

I will test the GoPro tomorrow. I plan on mounting it to the seatstay facing the rear.

I'm going to use the Contour on my helmet and the GoPro on the bike's frame, since frame mounting seems to produce the smoothest video.

Here's the two new cameras, plus the crappy Midland handlebar mount. You can see the tripod adapter on the GoPro, which will allow me to use it on the Manfrotto mount or my Pedco UltraClamp. I refuse to buy the stock GoPro handlebar mount. I have read posts on this forum from other cyclists that mentioned the mount breaking off suddenly, sending the camera crashing to the pavement. No thanks!

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Do you have a link to this Flex Strap? I'm not familiar with this.
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Nevermind, I found it. Thank you much for the heads up.
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Old 11-16-11, 01:23 PM   #165
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I have been out of it for a bit but here is an example of dashware, garmin 500 data, and a Tachyon HD which they no longer make but they make a new micro version.
http://www.tachyoninc.com/

I have other Videos there you can see that I've created and I take the sound out because this camera is shock proof which means the mic is inside the housing and it sounds horrible. One of the vids has audio from my camera and its no bueno.

LOL just remembered that dog chasing me at the end!
Thanks for mentioning Tachyon Inc. This was my first time hearing about this company. After some research I'm ordering the Tachyon OPS HD. I didn't realize how small these things are. I've been dying to find a decent camera to capture the funny things I encounter on rides. This will come in handy as well when I'm in the car or just out and about everyday life. Better then carrying a camcorder around. What's that saying, "It's useless unless you have it on you"...

Arghh....as always prices are jacked up in Canada. Gonna give the 808's a try first.

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Hey freightrain,

You will love the 960 - I have one too and the quality and battery life is excellent. I use the 60fps setting becasue if anythin "cool happens" its neat to playback on the PC in super-slow mode.

Im using a 16gb 4x spped chip and it seems to work well giving me close to 2.5 hrs of good quality video. Enough for any ride

Good to hear from you!
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Hey freightrain,

You will love the 960 - I have one too and the quality and battery life is excellent. I use the 60fps setting becasue if anythin "cool happens" its neat to playback on the PC in super-slow mode.

Im using a 16gb 4x spped chip and it seems to work well giving me close to 2.5 hrs of good quality video. Enough for any ride

Good to hear from you!
That's the setting I plan to use also. It's the same setting I've been using on my Contour since I bought it. It gives you smoother video and less rolling shutter waviness when the camera is mounted to the bike. I'm going to use the Contour on my helmet and the GoPro on the bike, with the open back to let in more sound.

I'm using a 32 GB Class 10 memory card in mine, and I bought a couple of spare batteries. Even though the Battery Bac Pac isn't compatible with the 960, I bought it to use as an external charger.

Good to hear from you too! I've been around, but I noticed a steady decline in interest in my video postings on C/A, so I finally gave up and started posting them in the road cycling ride video thread instead. Since there are more cyclists there who appreciate and make their own raw video, I seem to have better luck in there.
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Old 11-16-11, 08:35 PM   #168
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I found that this was the best mount for my Go Pro... Great camera mount, super solid. Perfect POV on the trail...

www.dimension5k.com
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Here's a perfect example of why I bought the Midland for stealth use, even though its quality is inferior to my Contour and GoPro.

Yesterday I stopped to hook up my Dinotte to its battery pack. A pedestrian took a little too much interest in the ContourHD on top of my helmet and accused me of being paranoid.

The song snippets at the beginning and end of the video sum up my opinion of him!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zx1WBnhSJ8Q
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Here's a perfect example of why I bought the Midland for stealth use, even though its quality is inferior to my Contour and GoPro.

Yesterday I stopped to hook up my Dinotte to its battery pack. A pedestrian took a little too much interest in the ContourHD on top of my helmet and accused me of being paranoid.

The song snippets at the beginning and end of the video sum up my opinion of him!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zx1WBnhSJ8Q
http://www.youtube.co/watch?v=zx1WBnhSJ8Q
There is always going to be someone who is going to piss on your parade just to make themselves feel superior... That dude is one of those..
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There is always going to be someone who is going to piss on your parade just to make themselves feel superior... That dude is one of those..
Yup. Either that or he had some issues that medication may or may not be able to take care of.

A couple days ago I took my new GoPro on its first test ride. Here is the result of my hamfisted attempt at mounting the camera on the back of the bike. I mounted it to the rear rack of my hybrid with a Manfrotto Super Clamp and right-angle ball mount. I didn't realize that simply tightening the thumbscrew that connects the camera housing to the GoPro tripod adapter wasn't enough to keep the camera in place, so every time I rode over a bump the camera moved down until it was pointing at the rear tire. A couple more bumps made it flop up and down a couple more times before coming to rest pointing at the rear tire again.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=498W_PNqsKQ

After that I figured out how to mount the camera properly using just the Manfrotto Super Clamp without the right-angle ball mount.
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Here's a perfect example of why I bought the Midland for stealth use, even though its quality is inferior to my Contour and GoPro.

Yesterday I stopped to hook up my Dinotte to its battery pack. A pedestrian took a little too much interest in the ContourHD on top of my helmet and accused me of being paranoid.
i run cameras for MY safety, comfort and entertainment. if someone else doesn't like it... tough noogies. it's worth noting that of the people i've "busted" with my videos, none of them ever suspected that they were on camera: if they did, they may have been more inclined to behave themselves.

"Just Because You're Paranoid Doesn't Mean They're Not Out to Get You" - ???

"Just because they really are out to get you doesn't mean you aren't paranoid." - Steven Brust

"The difference between common-sense and paranoia is that common-sense is thinking everyone is out to get you. That's normal -- they are. Paranoia is thinking that they're conspiring." - J. Kegler
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After that I figured out how to mount the camera properly using just the Manfrotto Super Clamp without the right-angle ball mount.
i've got my HEROs all mounted upside down, so if they get loose or knocked around, they tend to fall into position, instead of falling out of position. the mounts are adjusted so that the cameras fall into place. this also makes it quicker to put the cameras on (after taking them off) - i just push them down until they stop.

pictures - http://www.bikeforums.net/showthread...1#post13066685
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i run cameras for MY safety, comfort and entertainment. if someone else doesn't like it... tough noogies. it's worth noting that of the people i've "busted" with my videos, none of them ever suspected that they were on camera: if they did, they may have been more inclined to behave themselves.

"Just Because You're Paranoid Doesn't Mean They're Not Out to Get You" - ???

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You forgot this song.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r9ObLGRq33o

I'm not giving up on using high quality cameras, but for urban riding I may use the Midland, especially if I ride through less than desirable areas.

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i've got my HEROs all mounted upside down, so if they get loose or knocked around, they tend to fall into position, instead of falling out of position. the mounts are adjusted so that the cameras fall into place. this also makes it quicker to put the cameras on (after taking them off) - i just push them down until they stop.

pictures - http://www.bikeforums.net/showthread...1#post13066685
I'm doing that now too. That's why I don't need to use the right-angle ball mount.
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Old 11-21-11, 10:25 PM   #175
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Hi All,

I just want to contribute on this thread and share some of my video using GoPro HD Hero. I like the different mounting options of the GoPro. I guess better choose a camera that fits your needs and riding style.

http://www.youtube.com/user/tracerey
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