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    How to send GPX files to device?

    I have a Garmin GPSmap 60Cx. It works fine, but there's one thing I've never been able to figure out. How do I send GPX files to this device?

    A friend has sent me a route in the form of 14 GPX files. I've unzipped them to the desktop of my PC. Do I need to use a special program to move these to my device?

    I suspect there's something quite obvious that I'm missing here. If someone would be so kind as to walk me through this, I'd greatly appreciate it.



    Thanks in advance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ekdog View Post
    I have a Garmin GPSmap 60Cx. It works fine, but there's one thing I've never been able to figure out. How do I send GPX files to this device?

    A friend has sent me a route in the form of 14 GPX files. I've unzipped them to the desktop of my PC. Do I need to use a special program to move these to my device?

    I suspect there's something quite obvious that I'm missing here. If someone would be so kind as to walk me through this, I'd greatly appreciate it.



    Thanks in advance.
    It's been a long time since I used a GPS60, but of the top of my head, I think all I ever had to do was connect it to my PC so it would show up as a USB drive, and there was a GPSX folder that already existed that I could drop my GPX files into.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mulveyr View Post
    It's been a long time since I used a GPS60, but of the top of my head, I think all I ever had to do was connect it to my PC so it would show up as a USB drive, and there was a GPSX folder that already existed that I could drop my GPX files into.
    I've got it hooked up to my PC via USB, but it's not showing up as a USB drive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ekdog View Post
    I've got it hooked up to my PC via USB, but it's not showing up as a USB drive.
    Have you activated the USB Mass Storage setting as the manual describes? http://www8.garmin.com/manuals/GPSMA...nersManual.pdf
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    Quote Originally Posted by mulveyr View Post
    Have you activated the USB Mass Storage setting as the manual describes? http://www8.garmin.com/manuals/GPSMA...nersManual.pdf
    Fiddled around with it and managed to activate the USB Mass Storage setting. I can only see two folders: "Eula" and "Garmin". I've moved the tracks into both of them, but they don't show up on the device as tracks or routes to follow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ekdog View Post
    I have a Garmin GPSmap 60Cx. It works fine, but there's one thing I've never been able to figure out. How do I send GPX files to this device?

    A friend has sent me a route in the form of 14 GPX files. I've unzipped them to the desktop of my PC. Do I need to use a special program to move these to my device?

    I suspect there's something quite obvious that I'm missing here. If someone would be so kind as to walk me through this, I'd greatly appreciate it.



    Thanks in advance.

    If you're trying to send a route I think your best bet will be to convert it to a number of track logs (each one with no more than 500 points), then load it into MapSource and send them to the GPS that way.

    I may be wrong but don't think you can send an entire GPX file to the 60 series the way you can with the newer 62 series.
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    Quote Originally Posted by contango View Post
    If you're trying to send a route I think your best bet will be to convert it to a number of track logs (each one with no more than 500 points), then load it into MapSource and send them to the GPS that way.

    I may be wrong but don't think you can send an entire GPX file to the 60 series the way you can with the newer 62 series.
    Sounds complicated. I'll be honest with you. I have no idea how to carry out such a conversion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ekdog View Post
    Sounds complicated. I'll be honest with you. I have no idea how to carry out such a conversion.
    If you open your GPX files in Mapsource you should be able to see the routes on your map. If your friend has split a route into multiple routes it may be he has already converted them into track logs for you. Then you just connect your GPS with the USB cable, click the "Send to GPS" button, and it's done.
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    Quote Originally Posted by contango View Post
    If you open your GPX files in Mapsource you should be able to see the routes on your map. If your friend has split a route into multiple routes it may be he has already converted them into track logs for you. Then you just connect your GPS with the USB cable, click the "Send to GPS" button, and it's done.
    Thanks for your patience.

    I opened the files in Mapsource and was able to see each one on the map. Then I sent each one to the GPS. So now I should be able to find them on the device in the "Tracks" menu, right? They aren't there.

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    This worked for me earlier today. I manually imported the GPX file through Garmin Connect and then went to review it. I was able to save it as a course. Now I can retrace the route. I am using an Edge 800 though.

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    This is SO frustrating! Damn! I'll never buy a Garmin product again. They offer absolutely no support once they've got your money.


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    I also have Garmin GPSmap 60Cx (the one that's dying). You can open GPX files with Map Source as long as they contain tracks*. If the GPX file is a route or contain waypoints then no go. Once you open the GPS track in Map Source you will be able to load it to your GPS. But you will need to filter the tracks down to 500 point per track since Garmin GPSmap 60Cx only supports 500 points per track. If you don't filter the track then it'll show only partially on the Garmin GPSmap 60Cx.

    * I use Ride With GPS website to create routes then save that as a GPX track and it always worked for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AdamDZ View Post
    * I use Ride With GPS website to create routes then save that as a GPX track and it always worked for me.
    Have you paid for the premium service?

    I still haven't been able to successfully download these tracks to my GPS! Damn! What is it about this technology that makes it so damned user unfriendly? Couldn't it be set up so one could simply drag and drop tracks to one's device? This is ridiculous!

    Do you happen to know if there's a GPS forum where I could get some help on this?
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    Quote Originally Posted by contango View Post
    If you open your GPX files in Mapsource you should be able to see the routes on your map. If your friend has split a route into multiple routes it may be he has already converted them into track logs for you. Then you just connect your GPS with the USB cable, click the "Send to GPS" button, and it's done.
    How can I tell if he's converted them into track logs or not?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ekdog View Post
    How can I tell if he's converted them into track logs or not?
    Open the GPX file in MapSource or BaseCamp. They will show up as either routes or tracks.

    If they are tracks you won't get turn-by-turn guidance but you'll see the track on your GPS, overlaid on your map.

    If they are routes you can still send them to your GPS and you'll get turn-by-turn guidance (if the maps in your GPS support it), but it might not navigate you the exact same route.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ekdog View Post
    Thanks for your patience.

    I opened the files in Mapsource and was able to see each one on the map. Then I sent each one to the GPS. So now I should be able to find them on the device in the "Tracks" menu, right? They aren't there.
    It could be they are set up as routes, in which case they will show up in Routes rather than Tracks.


    Quote Originally Posted by AdamDZ View Post
    I also have Garmin GPSmap 60Cx (the one that's dying). You can open GPX files with Map Source as long as they contain tracks*. If the GPX file is a route or contain waypoints then no go. Once you open the GPS track in Map Source you will be able to load it to your GPS. But you will need to filter the tracks down to 500 point per track since Garmin GPSmap 60Cx only supports 500 points per track. If you don't filter the track then it'll show only partially on the Garmin GPSmap 60Cx.
    For good measure the way the 60 will filter is to take the first 500 points and ignore the rest of the track. I got caught out with that and ended up having to figure out the one-way system in a strange town on the fly. Which was interesting...


    Quote Originally Posted by AdamDZ View Post
    * I use Ride With GPS website to create routes then save that as a GPX track and it always worked for me.
    I use bikeroutetoaster. It can route down a lot of tracks and paths as well as roads, you just need to sanity-check the route because sometimes what it registers as a path suitable for cycling can be anything but.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ekdog View Post
    Have you paid for the premium service?
    If you use bikeroutetoaster you won't have to pay at all.

    I still haven't been able to successfully download these tracks to my GPS! Damn! What is it about this technology that makes it so damned user unfriendly? Couldn't it be set up so one could simply drag and drop tracks to one's device? This is ridiculous!
    There are units that let you just drag a file onto the GPS as a mass storage device. Unfortunately (for you) the 60Cx isn't one of them.

    Do you happen to know if there's a GPS forum where I could get some help on this?
    You could try the Technology section of the Groundspeak forums, the focus there is more on geocaching but people there have a lot of experience of all sorts of GPS units. Or you can keep asking here to see what we can help you with.
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    Yeah, that's pretty much how I learned about the 500 point limit too Didn't RTFM.

    Ekdog: no, I'm using the free service from Ride With GPS. The premium service adds the ability to load the files directly to the GPS which is not necessary. Where are you getting those GPS files from? Remember that they have to contain a track, not a route. Routes don't work for me either.

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    I downloaded a program called Easy GPS and then upgraded to their premium service (3-day free trial), which allowed me to simplify the tracks (get them below 500 points) and then send them to my unit. I thought I'd finally solved this, but they still don't appear on the 60Cx. I've looked under both Tracks and Routes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by contango View Post
    There are units that let you just drag a file onto the GPS as a mass storage device.
    Could you recommend one?

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    AdamDZ and Contango: I've sent you both private messages with links to the GPX files in question. Perhaps you could have a look at them and let me know if anything is amiss.

    By the way, I'm planning to ride from Seville to Lisbon following old roads and trails, and a friend of mine who's cycled the route and written a book about it included these tracks (routes?) with it. It would be so nice to be able to have turn-by-turn directions.

    Thanks so much.

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    You can simplify the tracks in Garmin software, it's called filtering. I looked at your files and responded to your PM. We need to know exactly at what point you're having difficulties, where the process fails for you.

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    Sometimes filtering loses a lot of resolution from the track log, so what I did with some was filter and with others was use the "track split" tool in Mapsource.

    You won't get turn-by-turn directions when using a track log, the advantage of the track log is that you get to see the exact route you're supposed to take on the GPS. If you tell the GPS to route then unless you've got a lot of waypoints along the route you potentially find the GPS routes you a different way.

    A lot of the time I use track logs on the basis I know in advance what route I'm planning to follow and it avoids any issues where the GPS tries to save 100 yards by having me turn across the traffic twice to cut a modest corner off my route, or route me along a narrow track that consists of two inches of water over six inches of mud.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ekdog View Post
    Could you recommend one?
    Any newer unit should work. If you like a touchscreen interface you could try a Dakota, Oregon or Montana (depending on how big a unit you want and how much cash you want to spend). If you prefer buttons you could look at the 62s or new eTrex range. Go for one that supports memory cards so you can as many maps as you want later.

    I've still got my old 60CSx about that my wife now uses, and I use a Montana 650. It's a huge great unit to mount on bike handlebars but works very nicely, it's got a monstrous great screen and works like a dream. If you prefer something smaller and/or cheaper the Oregon is the next step down, and the baby of the range is the Dakota. The Dakota is a little small for my liking but works pretty well - a friend of mine has one on his bike and likes it. The only issue with the smaller unit is he uses a pen as a stylus to operate the touchscreen as it's a little small for him to operate with his fingers.
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    Yeah, you do lose track resolution with long tracks so I also split them up sometimes. The newer units can take more points.

    I'm upset with Garmin over their map licensing but I might just bend over and get an Oregon since my 60Csx is dying. Garmin makes really nice hardware. There is nothing quite to match it. Yeah, mmmm, the Oregon is really nice.

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