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    niteflux red zone 8

    no info on the web-site yet, so i figured i'd share...

    from niteflux:
    Good things come to those who wait:
    Attached are photos of the new Niteflux red zone product. It is improved on the original in many ways:

    even easier to see from all angles
    much easier switch action
    longer runtime
    easier to attach to seat posts
    repairable/battery replaceable

    Also, in response to requests from USA, it is also going to be available in DOUBLE power. That is 8W peak power in flash mode and over 400lm!

    We are now finished pre-production test on this new unit. It has taken some time to finalise the design but it will be worth the wait. We are now beginning the first production cycle. This will take around 4-6 weeks.

    For those who have asked about getting a new niteflux red zone for xmas, I am sorry but we wont be guaranteeing delivery before xmas.
    For those who have asked about international delivery, we usually ship these from a warehouse in USA but there have been changes in the postal system in USA banning all batteries in the short term. This is expected to be reviewed with new rules in place on Jan 1 2013. Niteflx bicycle lights will comply with the new rules and international postage will resume at that time.


    If you are receiving this email it is because you have sent a back-order enquiry to niteflux. Sorry we cant give individualised replies to all emails. We get too many. Thanks for your patience, we will be making a special offer to all back-order customers: A free upgrade from 4W version to 8W version. Just reply to this email to book your 8W version if you want it. Otherwise, we will send another email when the first batch of stock is available.

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    Day-um! The RZ4 is hella bright on its own (and probably one of the brightest lights for a c-note), but apparently some of us have been going "more, please"?? Any idea of pricing yet? Are you gonna take them up on their offer for a free upgrade?

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    yeah, for my needs, 4W is plenty. i've already got two of the older RZ4s, which is beyond insane for where i ride. even with one of them, i'm often mistaken for an emergency vehicle... even at close range, even by people who are expecting me to show up on my bike.

    i had an order in for the white-zone when the shipping and inventory problems hosed the outstanding orders, and i think i'll just stick with the "regular" new version of that, when it's available (which i'll get discounted, because my order got hosed).

    the only thing i can think of where an 8W version would be justified (and then, i'd still get two) would be long desert roads with high speed limits, harsh sun and very little (but very fast) traffic.

    i have no idea about the pricing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by smasha View Post
    no info on the web-site yet, so i figured i'd share...

    from niteflux:
    Wow! Thanks for the info!

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    Dear NiteFlux customers.
    Finally we have our first production batch of the new red zone 8 ready to ship. For those that are getting this email for the first time, please read below.

    Our website does not show this product yet and still lists the old versions as out of stock. We wont be updating this until we have filled all the back-orders. There is a long list of people that have enquired, and we want to serve these first. Note also I have made special offer of free upgrade to 8W version for those on this email list.

    Now, to order, or really, to pay: go to [URL redacted]. Make secure card payment at the site there. If you choose either red zone or white zone, you will not get the version that is pictured there, you will get the new version. (pictures attached to this email). You will get an automatically generated email from us with your payment receipt and an order number will be generated within our system. Reply to it with your order preference (eg let us know if you want upgrade to 8W) and delivery address.

    International customers, we will send a consolidated shipment to USA each week and your order will be posted by US airmail from there.

    Please do contact me with any queries, otherwise we will start filling the orders in order of payment receipt.

    Best Regards,
    David.
    and yes, there's also a white-zone-10 available!!! i'm scared!!!
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    Looking at those pictures, it appears that the light(s) can be orieentated vertically or horizontally- is that correct? The horizontal position would be great for people with minimum seat post showing and possibly for the folks who like to strap their loads to the top of the rear rack.

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    RZ8 manual.
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    RZ8 video review/comparison.

    i'm going to sleep. the video should be available soon...

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BFNH6MWfN6g

    this light is just crazy. the WZ-10 is even crazier.
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    I can't imagine needing a tail light brighter than my RZ4, but someone out there might. For those who aren't familiar with these lights, they are awesome. The on/off function takes a bit of getting used to, but mine has proven to be an excellent wet weather light. Very rugged, rock solid mounting clip. You don't have to worry about having it aimed just right either, I just clip mine to either my saddle bag or my messenger bag and take off; suppose helmet mounting would work just as well.
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    I wonder if the RZ8 will be brighter than the daytime only Dinotte?

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    Anyone able to compare this to the Dinotte 300R?

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    Just got mine yesterday. Here is a little video I made of it.
    http://youtu.be/Iz5Mkah4QZY

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    Quote Originally Posted by weshigh View Post
    Just got mine yesterday. Here is a little video I made of it.
    http://youtu.be/Iz5Mkah4QZY
    Did you already had it back ordered?

    Nice video btw!
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    Yes, nice video. I really like the RZ8. I have a couple issues though. The Red Zone people are incredibly slow getting their products to market. If I didn't know better I would swear they were making these in someones down stair basement. The other issue is price. While I like the lamp design it is pretty much very simple. That said I think the price should reflect this ( in other words, it's too expensive )

    What really surprised me in the video was that the Cygolite HotShot was the more predominate light once you got at distance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stix Zadinia View Post
    Did you already had it back ordered?

    Nice video btw!
    Thanks. Yeah I had it pre-ordered and this I believe is from the 2nd batch sent to the US.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 01 CAt Man Do View Post
    Yes, nice video. I really like the RZ8. I have a couple issues though. The Red Zone people are incredibly slow getting their products to market. If I didn't know better I would swear they were making these in someones down stair basement. The other issue is price. While I like the lamp design it is pretty much very simple. That said I think the price should reflect this ( in other words, it's too expensive )

    What really surprised me in the video was that the Cygolite HotShot was the more predominate light once you got at distance.
    i agree with your points. It seems to be a pretty niche light. After having it a couple days now my biggest issue is getting the side cap off to charge it. Mine is really stuck on. For some reason the side with the power button is much easier. It'd be nice if they could make the charging port more easy access.

    Id like to do some more video in more real world usage. My first video was in a pretty dark area and lined up straight with the camera. I think once out on the road it could change a bit. I think my camera didn't have the dynamic range to pick up much difference in the lights. RZ8 was much brighter to my naked eye. Hotshot holds its own when viewed straight on though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by weshigh View Post
    Thanks. Yeah I had it pre-ordered and this I believe is from the 2nd batch sent to the US.
    Oh, and how long did it take for you to get the light, if you don't mind me asking?
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    Quote Originally Posted by 01 CAt Man Do View Post

    What really surprised me in the video was that the Cygolite HotShot was the more predominate light once you got at distance.
    Not suprised....Bought mine for daytime riding and get comments that they see It 1/2 of a mile back.
    I don't really care about side lighting.
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    the website's been updated, so presumably these are now in-stock and ready to ship.

    https://www.niteflux.com/store/
    updated manuals posted, above.

    i've been running the RZ-8 and WZ-10 for a few months now, having previously run the original RZ4 for about a year. i'm impressed. the only thing i don't like is the velcro; i haven't had any problems with the velcro, i just don't like velcro. i need to get some reusable zip-ties.

    i run the WZ-10 on high during the day, and at night it's on a lower setting, paired with a "see light" (an 18650/XML-T6 from dx). i run the RZ-8 on high during the day, on a lower seting at night paired with a hot-shot.

    every now and then i scroll through the different flash patterns, and keep coming back to the default.
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    I have had an original Redzone 4 and a Whitezone 5 for about a year. I really like the functionality of the lights, when they work. Unfortunately, my Whitezone 5 died after only 5 months of intermittent use. The battery will not hold charge.

    I have emailed Niteflux three times, with no reply. This poor customer service isn't unusual apparently. I found several reports on the web of RZ4 batteries dying and no response from Niteflux. In one case the customer did get a replacement after several months of struggling, but the replacement died again and the customer gave up after further lack of response. There is a post from the owner of Niteflux ('David') on a South Australian cycling forum where he acknowledges that the original RZ4 and WZ5 had issues with 'road chemicals' leaking though the resin coating and causing the lights to fail. My lights have only been used on a touring bike with full mudguards, so I'm not sure how this could be the cause of the failure of my lights - just poor quality batteries I believe.

    If I don't hear back from Niteflux soon I guess I will have to go through the ACCC (the Australian consumer watchdog). Disappointing, because as I said above, I like the lights - just not the poor durability and lack of support.

    Cheers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by flibble View Post
    I have emailed Niteflux three times, with no reply. This poor customer service isn't unusual apparently. I found several reports on the web of RZ4 batteries dying and no response from Niteflux.
    I've had the RZ8 for a month or so, and I emailed niteflux about some replacement caps and David got back to me immediately. Very different from your issue with the light, but I just thought I'd chip in that I had a positive CS experience.

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    I'm thinking about buying a white zone 5 as a "be seen" light.

    http://www.niteflux.com/buy/white-zone-5/

    But the cost is a little prohibitive.

    Are there any other options out there available?

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    as for other options in the "OMG! be-seen!" lights, i'm not aware of anything close.

    as for customer service, i've heard, and experienced, good and bad. overall, my experience is that the support has been excellent... when they check their email.
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    I went ahead and bought the WZ5. I actually own a RZ4 which has worked fine now for about 6 months.

    One of my concerns regarding the WZ was that if it would disturb my vision with blasts to my eyes. I experimented with the RZ and fortunately the handlebars provide some shielding, so hopefully this can still work out fine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shahmatt View Post
    One of my concerns regarding the WZ was that if it would disturb my vision with blasts to my eyes. I experimented with the RZ and fortunately the handlebars provide some shielding, so hopefully this can still work out fine.
    i've got my WZ-10 mounted to the front of the head-tube with a releasable zip-tie. i run it on high during the day, and a few notches down at night. when i'm going straight, the stem is between the light and my face. when turning, particularly low-speed turns while looking more down, i sometimes get a face-full of flash... but it hasn't caused me any problems.
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