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 01-15-13, 07:21 AM #1 Garfield Cat Senior Member Thread Starter     Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Huntington Beach, CA Bikes: Cervelo Prodigy Posts: 6,366 Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s) Quoted: 135 Post(s) Wind Chill Calculator I ran across this wind chill web site that shows the formulae for both the old method and the new method. http://www.onlineconversion.com/windchill.htm The formulas used to calculate the wind chill index are: Old Wind Chill Index (Pre-November 2001) = 91.4 - (0.474677 - 0.020425 * V + 0.303107 * sqrt(V)) * (91.4 - T) New Wind Chill Index = 35.74 + 0.6215T - 35.75(V0.16) + 0.4275T(V0.16) where: V = wind speed (mph) T = temperature (F)
 01-15-13, 12:36 PM #2 hotbike Senior Member     Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Long Island, New York Bikes: a lowrider BMX, a mountain bike, a faired recumbent, and a loaded touring bike Posts: 3,045 Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s) Quoted: 73 Post(s) I don't know. That's going to require a calculator. And it doesn't take into account the humidity. I know the THI is something else, used on hot days. But I believe in using Fairings. So named because they block a strong wind, leaving a fair wind.
 01-15-13, 01:10 PM #3 prathmann Senior Member   Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Bay Area, Calif. Bikes: Posts: 6,534 Mentioned: 5 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s) Quoted: 296 Post(s) Neither of those formulas strikes me as reasonable. For example, enter a temperature of 0F and a windspeed of 0 mph. The windchill index at that site comes out as 48F (old formula) or 36F (new formula). Sorry, but if I go outside on a 0 degree day it doesn't feel like it's either 36F or 48F just because the wind isn't blowing. The site needs to add some input validity checking. The NWS formula is based on some curve fitting that's only valid for certain ranges of the temperature and wind speeds. Specifically: -50F < T < 50F 3 < WS(mph) < 110 Last edited by prathmann; 01-15-13 at 01:34 PM.
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 01-15-13, 03:32 PM #5 Garfield Cat Senior Member Thread Starter     Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Huntington Beach, CA Bikes: Cervelo Prodigy Posts: 6,366 Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s) Quoted: 135 Post(s) How about just trying to quantify the subjective feeling when the cold air cuts right into your bones? There are days when we go outside on a cold day with no wind and its tolerable but add 15 mph winds, and its a whole different story. In Chicago along the Lakefront, its like that.
 01-15-13, 10:48 PM #6 digibud Senior Member     Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Further North than U Bikes: Spec Roubaix, three Fisher Montare, two Pugs Posts: 1,987 Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s) Quoted: 35 Post(s) My coldest ride this year, with the new wind chill calculator : -48F . But for anyone wearing clothing the wind chill factor is quite meaningless. It might represent how a person would feel if they are naked...but nobody is riding naked. A block of metal at -40F doesn't know if it's windy out or not and if you are wearing a windproof jacket it doesn't make much difference if it's windy or not. Granted you will indeed lose more heat when it's windy but a windchill chart is really kind of meaningless as it pertains to objects that are either ambient temp or protected from the wind like a body in a windproof jacket. Once, however, at about -30F I hopped on my snow machine and blasted across a small lake at about 50mph for about a minute. My entire face was flash frozen, superficially and I got a scream as the door was opened to the house where people quickly took me to a sink of warm water. THAT was a case where windchill was very meaningful.
01-16-13, 06:44 AM   #7
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 Originally Posted by digibud My coldest ride this year, with the new wind chill calculator : -48F . But for anyone wearing clothing the wind chill factor is quite meaningless. It might represent how a person would feel if they are naked...but nobody is riding naked. A block of metal at -40F doesn't know if it's windy out or not and if you are wearing a windproof jacket it doesn't make much difference if it's windy or not. Granted you will indeed lose more heat when it's windy but a windchill chart is really kind of meaningless as it pertains to objects that are either ambient temp or protected from the wind like a body in a windproof jacket. Once, however, at about -30F I hopped on my snow machine and blasted across a small lake at about 50mph for about a minute. My entire face was flash frozen, superficially and I got a scream as the door was opened to the house where people quickly took me to a sink of warm water. THAT was a case where windchill was very meaningful.