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    If I going to buy a Garmin: Edge 800 or 810?

    I am looking at ebay and see alot of Garmin Edge 800's for sale. I read up on the 810 but I can get a 800 for alot less money. Anyone have a 810 now? Also anyone with a 800 what do you think of it.
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    Looks like the 800 is to Garmin what Vista was to Windows.

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    I have the 800 and am pretty happy with it. The biggest weakness, in my opinion, is poor screen contrast. In some lighting situations it is hard to read. I also had an issue in that I downloaded the NA maps, and they worked great for a while, but then the file got corrupted, and Garmin's suggested solution was to buy another set of maps. Customer service could be better.

    I have looked at the 810, and the new features are not things that have a lot of value to me, so I am not looking to upgrade.

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    The only features on the 810 over the 800 that would have value to me is having 10 instead of only 3 bike profiles, and the ability to save different screen setups for different types of rides/activities. Its biggest new feature, bluetooth connectivity through a smart phone, has virtually no value to me. The screen contrast is just as bad as the 800.

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    Regarding maps - the 800 (and I assume the 810) will work just fine with Open Source Maps. I have both on my 800; bought the Garmin maps while trying to get turn-by-turn to work. "Turns" out that my problem had nothing to do with the maps and I was able to get things going. Garmin documentation leaves a lot to be desired, but I'd be shocked if anything has changed since release of the 800.

    I definitely like the turn-by-turn directions. Would have prevented a 35 mile excursion in the Marin 100K!
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    Looks like I can get a 800 bundle set for the price of a 810. Well I'll try and bid on one and see how I do!
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    I have a Garmin 800, and in retrospect, I think I would have been just as happy with the 500. I do like the new features of the 510/810 though and now wish that I had those. Oh, well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by corynardin View Post
    I have a Garmin 800, and in retrospect, I think I would have been just as happy with the 500. I do like the new features of the 510/810 though and now wish that I had those. Oh, well.
    Many don't realize that a you can download a route to a 500 and it will depict a breadcrumb track on it's screen that you can follow. It doesn't have maps so won't show any roads and doesn't give turn guidance, but you can easily see if you've wandered off the track.

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    Reading about 510/810 now. Sounds interesting on paper. However, I already have live tracking through a free Android app, I'm not sure what's the value of being able to display the weather forecast on the Edge, and wireless activity upload is not a huge plus if you have to plug the unit into USB to recharge it anyway.

    I'll be thinking about it more, but, at current eBay prices, I'd probably take 800 over 510.

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    I'm just wondering why the 510 is being released so late compared to the 810. I mean, the 810 is nice, but I think it, as well as the 800, are a bit big IMO. I think the 510 is perfect in size and it has the touch screen as well as the cleaner interface. Anyways, I would pick up an 800 from a place with a liberal return policy and just get it. That way if you find yourself not utilizing it to it's fullest or don't need the mapping you can exchange for the 510.
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    dcrainmaker recently reviewed the 510 and 810 and compares them to the older 500 & 800.

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    sorry for bringing up a dead thread but I figure I ask the same question. any changes since Feb?

    thanks for your help

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    Check out the respective forums here: https://forums.garmin.com/forumdisplay.php?20-Cycling

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    From a mapping perspective only (quality of maps), is there a difference between the maps in the 800 and the maps in the 810?

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    No difference. Neither unit comes with usable maps in their base form. Maps are extra or available on the web. The units have the same display and the maps that work on either are the same. Garmin's CityNavigator maps and various open source maps.

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    i've heard the 810 is really buggy, my local shop has had one returned by a customer and sent their stock back of 810s back.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Looigi View Post
    No difference. Neither unit comes with usable maps in their base form. Maps are extra or available on the web. The units have the same display and the maps that work on either are the same. Garmin's CityNavigator maps and various open source maps.
    Thanks for your reply.

    I'm a bit confused. I thought the 810 comes with a micro-SD loaded with North America? Is that what you're referring to by 'City Navigator maps'? When you say that neither one comes with usable maps, I'm a bit puzzled. All pictures I've seen of the 810 (such as the one below), clearly show a map.... Or by 'no usable map', you mean I can't scroll the display to view nearby roads? - only my route for turn by turn navigation?


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    The base unit does not have usable maps. You need to by a package that includes a map, buy the maps separately, or use OS maps. Garmin's maps are called CityNavigator and are available on CD, microSD card, or via download. The go for ~$100.

    Info is on the Garmin website: https://buy.garmin.com/shop/shop.do?cID=160&pID=112912

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    Quote Originally Posted by JackoDandy View Post
    Looks like the 800 is to Garmin what Vista was to Windows.
    I wouldn't say that at all. In fact, if anything, I'd say the 810 has capabilities that, while some may view as "neat," others will say "Why would i pay for that?" I don't really have a compelling desire for people to be able to track me in real time, even friends. That's basically the big enhancement in the 800 versus the 810.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cafzali View Post
    I wouldn't say that at all. In fact, if anything, I'd say the 810 has capabilities that, while some may view as "neat," others will say "Why would i pay for that?" I don't really have a compelling desire for people to be able to track me in real time, even friends. That's basically the big enhancement in the 800 versus the 810.
    True, but the ability to upload your workout to the web via your cell instead of hooking it up to a PC is a major time/hassle saver - at least for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dannydyn View Post
    True, but the ability to upload your workout to the web via your cell instead of hooking it up to a PC is a major time/hassle saver - at least for me.
    Sorry, but I've got to laugh. Just for the heck of it, I just uploaded a ride to my PC from my creaky old 705 starting with my browser running. Working casually, I found and clicked on the GC link in my favorites, connected the USB to the 705, waited for it to connect to the PC, clicked Upload, waited for it to upload, then opened it to view it. 49 seconds. That's a "major time/hassle"?

    You can't look at the data without having the site/program open anyway, so if it's open in the first place, connecting the USB and uploading the data might take all of 30 seconds.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Looigi View Post
    Sorry, but I've got to laugh. Just for the heck of it, I just uploaded a ride to my PC from my creaky old 705 starting with my browser running. Working casually, I found and clicked on the GC link in my favorites, connected the USB to the 705, waited for it to connect to the PC, clicked Upload, waited for it to upload, then opened it to view it. 49 seconds. That's a "major time/hassle"?

    You can't look at the data without having the site/program open anyway, so if it's open in the first place, connecting the USB and uploading the data might take all of 30 seconds.
    A bike shop in a wealthy suburb near me tried really hard to convince me I needed to upgrade my Garmin, just because my 705 won't be officially supported anymore. I get why they want to sell me something, but doing so on the basis of obsolescence when for many the 705 does all they want kind of cracks me up. Don't get me wrong, I'd love to have one, but $500-600 can do a lot, especially considering how relatively little we use these devices compared to things we use for long periods every day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cafzali View Post
    ... I needed to upgrade my Garmin, just because my 705 won't be officially supported anymore...
    Certainly there won't be any firmware updates, but they are still "repairing" them. If you send one in for repair, they replace it with a refurbished unit with new battery and case for $110. I plan on doing that myself when the battery or buttons start on mine showing signs of crapping out. I'd much rather do that then get a 800 or 810. Aftermarket replacement batteries are available and easy enough to install, but once the rubber buttons start to go, you're SOL.

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    Note re: turn by turn directions and the 500.

    it can do turn directions using the tcx file downloaded from sites such as ridewithgps.com

    I've been using this on my La Bella Preme training rides with team as I am leading the rides and am not 100% familiar with area we are riding in. Someone else designs route. I save route to my ridewithgps profile. Download the tcx file to my computer then transfer file to Garmin 500 using directions provided. It works pretty well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beachgrad05 View Post
    Note re: turn by turn directions and the 500.

    it can do turn directions using the tcx file downloaded from sites such as ridewithgps.com...
    Yes. Those cues are embedded in the TCX file by the software/site that created it. It doesn't depend on or require maps on the device. They are text messages that show up on the display and you can get the on the 705 by putting the tcx file in the courses directory and following a course rather than navigating a saved ride, which is what you do with gpx files. When navigating gpx (or FIT in the 800/801 case) the 705/800/810 will show a zoomed in diagram of the upcoming turn, much like an car GPS. Kinda nice, but not essential. And, of course these units will show all the roads, whereas the 500 and 510 will only show a breadcrumb trail on the screen with no roads or landmarks depicted.

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