Brake light with accelerometer
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Brake light with accelerometer
https://www.bikerumor.com/2013/05/13/...ht/#more-60037
Looks like a much more practical and reliable solution to something that folks have been tinkering with for years.
Looks like a much more practical and reliable solution to something that folks have been tinkering with for years.
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I have a dyno brake light. Haven't put it on a bike yet
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Seems a bit steep. Adding an accelerometer should only add maybe $8 to the cost of a brake light, and that's on one-off pricing, like if I just went to Digikey and bought a single accelerometer chip. It should interface fine to the processor that's already there in the light.
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Velodroom bike light
Well... as an engineer working on a similar, but less expensive and way better looking
bike light, I can tell it is not the components that cost. Electronics add maybe 4$ to this project.
Main expenses are probably R&D and marketing. Still, 100$ implies a bit too large contribution
from the backers to get their production costs down. After that they may reduce the price,
but not holding my breath for it. Just my biased opinion.
Project I'm working on: https://vd.ee
and a brief Velodroom trailer/teaser
bike light, I can tell it is not the components that cost. Electronics add maybe 4$ to this project.
Main expenses are probably R&D and marketing. Still, 100$ implies a bit too large contribution
from the backers to get their production costs down. After that they may reduce the price,
but not holding my breath for it. Just my biased opinion.
Project I'm working on: https://vd.ee
and a brief Velodroom trailer/teaser
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Well... as an engineer working on a similar, but less expensive and way better looking
bike light, I can tell it is not the components that cost. Electronics add maybe 4$ to this project.
Main expenses are probably R&D and marketing. Still, 100$ implies a bit too large contribution
from the backers to get their production costs down. After that they may reduce the price,
but not holding my breath for it. Just my biased opinion.
Project I'm working on: https://vd.ee
and a brief Velodroom trailer/teaser
bike light, I can tell it is not the components that cost. Electronics add maybe 4$ to this project.
Main expenses are probably R&D and marketing. Still, 100$ implies a bit too large contribution
from the backers to get their production costs down. After that they may reduce the price,
but not holding my breath for it. Just my biased opinion.
Project I'm working on: https://vd.ee
and a brief Velodroom trailer/teaser
Much better looking and more practical (mount etc)..
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Velodroom now also covered in bikerumor: https://www.bikerumor.com/2013/05/14/...ve-bike-light/
We are also working on front light and want to make it the best one in the world,
so any feedback-suggestions-comments are welcome.
We are also working on front light and want to make it the best one in the world,
so any feedback-suggestions-comments are welcome.
Last edited by Indrek Rebane; 05-14-13 at 05:24 PM.
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Interesting and thanks for sharing. I have thought of fitting a Busch & Mueller BrakeTec as I run a dynamo on one of my bikes.
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Interesting and thanks for sharing. I have thought of fitting a Busch & Mueller BrakeTec as I run a dynamo on one of my bikes.
Good engineering and ingenious operating principle. Also very reasonably priced.
Velodroom is working on dynamo model as well, but this will not be on the market before 2014.
Dynamo connection is currently mandatory for bike lights in Germany by StVZO TA. Of course
we will do our best to make better light than B&M. However, if you need one now there is no
match to B&M as far as I know. And this comes from their competitor.
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AIUI B&M uses a frequency comparator to detect when the bike is slowing (from the dyno hub). That seems likely to be cheaper (all electronic) than adding an accelerometer into the mix.
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I came across these https://www.ebay.com/itm/111058289337...84.m1497.l2649.
can't beat the price. I order 2 of these to use on my bike rack to improve the brake light visibility. sinc my bike blocks my brake lights.
can't beat the price. I order 2 of these to use on my bike rack to improve the brake light visibility. sinc my bike blocks my brake lights.
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As the hub dynamo has Power pulses, the B&M one lights brighter as the Pulse Frequency drops .
in normal operation there is a capacitor to smooth out the pulses
Flashing tail lights are verboten in German bike regulations.
but Asian Export Stuff sells withall those flashing Modes.
in normal operation there is a capacitor to smooth out the pulses
Flashing tail lights are verboten in German bike regulations.
but Asian Export Stuff sells withall those flashing Modes.
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Seems a bit steep. Adding an accelerometer should only add maybe $8 to the cost of a brake light, and that's on one-off pricing, like if I just went to Digikey and bought a single accelerometer chip. It should interface fine to the processor that's already there in the light.
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OK, so add about 80 cents minus whatever the custom silicon costs, to the total cost. 80 cents is what I can buy small processors for in relatively small quantities (100+) In 5000 quantities, it's down to about 60 cents or less. The accelerometer is a more significant cost, they're usually a couple of bucks in the quantity I buy, but I'm sure when you start buying a few thousand the price drops considerably.
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I'm glad to announce that things have moved a notch closer with Velodroom bike light.
Today we are launching our Kickstarter campaign and hopefully reach our set goal.
Kickstarter page:
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/velodroom/velodrooms-smart-bicycle-light
Today we are launching our Kickstarter campaign and hopefully reach our set goal.
Kickstarter page:
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/velodroom/velodrooms-smart-bicycle-light
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Anyone experienced taillight getting brighter upon acceleration as well? Seems like accelerometer is working both ways on some lights. Couldn't find anything about such a specific issue so had no other choice but to ask here.
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Yeah, is this a zombie resurrection for an imagined issue?! Haha!
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As far as I've been able to tell, it only gets brighter under deceleration. That said, I have a hard time riding and seeing my tail light at the same time. I'm just not that flexible.
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