Bike Forums

Bike Forums (http://www.bikeforums.net/forum.php)
-   Electronics, Lighting, & Gadgets (http://www.bikeforums.net/electronics-lighting-gadgets/)
-   -   Android Phones, ANT+ and APPS (http://www.bikeforums.net/electronics-lighting-gadgets/908348-android-phones-ant-apps.html)

irrelevantapple 10-05-13 07:00 PM

Note 3 already has ant+. Samsung just failed to mention the fact and media didn't realise. http://www.thisisant.com/directory/galaxy-note-3

donalson 10-05-13 07:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by irrelevantapple (Post 16135859)
Note 3 already has ant+. Samsung just failed to mention the fact and media didn't realise. http://www.thisisant.com/directory/galaxy-note-3

awesome... think it's time to look into selling the note 2 lol

irrelevantapple 10-05-13 07:27 PM

prefer ant+ over ble because you already have the hardware? Or is it multicast support or else wise? I'm asking because I'm not aware of the critical differences.

donalson 10-05-13 08:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by irrelevantapple (Post 16135919)
prefer ant+ over ble because you already have the hardware? Or is it multicast support or else wise? I'm asking because I'm not aware of the critical differences.

I have the hardware, more hardware is easy to find and inexpensive, it's power efficient, and it's compatible with the a lot of other cycling specific computers... ble is new so parts are a bit more expensive and hardware/software is still working on compatibility

irrelevantapple 11-01-13 07:02 AM

Some screenshots of my setup. Details and descriptions in this album, please read for related information https://plus.google.com/photos/10273...O_65I_m8pazyQE

Note the distance and climb rate colour match incline but should be purple to differentiate, just didn't realise I set it wrong. The plot can't be fully understood because of that. I should probably remove either Kcal or kJ... I haven't tested recording video while riding yet and i'm waiting on an external charger before I can take shots of the hardware setup. I can share when possible if anyone's interested?

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-C...1-16-48-20.png https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-7...1-16-48-04.png
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-B...1-16-52-44.png https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-s...1-16-52-55.png
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-q...1-17-17-35.png https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-P...1-17-17-16.png
https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-Q...1-18-30-04.png https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-H...1-18-28-20.png
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-1...1-18-38-05.png https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-j...1-18-37-53.png

anga 11-22-13 08:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rich Gibson (Post 16092296)
I found a better mount at REI. Here's the new setup
http://richgibson.smugmug.com/Other/...C0171-2-XL.jpg

http://richgibson.smugmug.com/Other/...SC0172-2-L.jpg

Garmin soft cable HRM sensor, Bontrager SC sensor, Garmin ANT+ receiver, Samsung Galaxy S4, deltacycle.com mount, OTG right angle cable and iPBike software. Works perfectly.

Rich

This is what I need. Did iPBike give you that display? Where did the numbers come from?

donalson 11-22-13 10:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by anga (Post 16268403)
This is what I need. Did iPBike give you that display? Where did the numbers come from?

Yes that is ipbike... numbers are the example before you turn sensor on

irrelevantapple 11-25-13 01:57 AM

My external charger arrived so my setup is complete. My approach is everything's as cheap as possible while serving function. Last photo is waterproofing using crumpled sandwich bag cut to size.

http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3719/1...912e8ed1_b.jpg
Bike computer setup by irrelevant_apple, on Flickr
http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3702/1...3c28933d_b.jpg
Bike computer setup by irrelevant_apple, on Flickrhttp://farm8.staticflickr.com/7410/1...82c64726_b.jpg
Waterproof by crumpled sandwich bag cut to size by irrelevant_apple, on Flickr

anga 11-27-13 10:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by irrelevantapple (Post 16275756)
My external charger arrived so my setup is complete. My approach is everything's as cheap as possible while serving function.

What is your hardware setup?

Rich Gibson 11-27-13 12:12 PM

Is that cross bar pack a battery supply? Are you using an ANT+ receiver or low power Bluetooth? If so, how do you do it? I figure you either plug in the power OR the sensor. It isn't a problem with me because I never ride longer than 2-1/2 hours and that only uses around 40% of my battery supply on my Galaxy S4.

donalson 11-27-13 03:55 PM

if that is a gs4 AND he has the right update it does have ant+ built in... the GS5 is rumored to be out early next year and if it has ant+ I'll likely upgrade at that point... I wish it was something more phones had... although with the new bluetooth LE protocol it may put a hurt on future ant+ integration... time will tell

http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=2469353
http://www.dcrainmaker.com/2013/10/s...e-devices.html

irrelevantapple 11-27-13 05:55 PM

its a galaxy nexus modded for bt4 since Google in their wisdom disabled it. Using topeak sensors. The external charger is a 3x18650 which can take 1-3 individually, enb brand from fast-tech.com. Two genuine Samsung 3000mah batteries and the external for less than $20.

by my testing I used to get varied battery life by operation. Bought the phone used so the 1850mah battery likely came degraded. I'd get only 2 hours with screen full brightness in daylight with those mapping apps overlayed with draining white backgrounds for the amoled. To divide the power up if the 1850mah was actually 1850mah it works about. 900mah daylight navigation. 600mah daylight no navigation. 450mah night navigation. 300mah no navigation.

The idea being that i can use it for long distance riding.

Rich Gibson 11-29-13 03:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by donalson (Post 16284109)
if that is a gs4 AND he has the right update it does have ant+ built in... the GS5 is rumored to be out early next year and if it has ant+ I'll likely upgrade at that point... I wish it was something more phones had... although with the new bluetooth L...l

Woo hoo; just checked and 4.3 is on its way. I hope I can get ANT+ support. Anyone know a site which might discuss going about getting it to work?

UPDATE: I finally got 4.3 to install on my S4 and it indeed works with iPBike without the dongle. Woo hoo!:thumb:

Thanks, Rich

irrelevantapple 11-29-13 04:04 PM

sorry ant+ for s3 was incorrectly reported. No ant+ it seems
http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=2524232

Winnershcyclist 12-14-13 07:29 AM

I have a Galaxy S4 international with finally the 4.3 update.
I also have an Ant+garmin hrm and a Polar H7 ble hrm.
I thought I would see how different they are so on a spin class yesterday My max hr with The Garmin ant+ was 140 with an average 100 this was using Endomondo
Previously same class using icardio and polar regularly my figures have been Max 169 and average 149 these figures have been consistent pretty much.
I notice Ant+ refresh doesn't seem real time whereas the Polar is constantly changing figures.
I wonder if its a ant+issue or if anyone else has the same lags with ant+.
I had a zepyr hxm that behaved the same as the Polar so think the Garmin is a bit off...
The Polar has t13 support and behaves the same with gym equipment

z2z2 03-25-14 12:07 PM

ANT+ Enabler for Nexus 5 & 10, HTC One and LG G2 phone
 
More phones added support for ANT+, root is required though.
ANT+ Enabler for Nexus 5 & 10, HTC One and LG G2 phone
https://play.google.com/store/apps/d...ftware.antplus


Quote:

Originally Posted by Winnershcyclist (Post 16329125)
I have a Galaxy S4 international with finally the 4.3 update.
I also have an Ant+garmin hrm and a Polar H7 ble hrm.
I thought I would see how different they are so on a spin class yesterday My max hr with The Garmin ant+ was 140 with an average 100 this was using Endomondo
Previously same class using icardio and polar regularly my figures have been Max 169 and average 149 these figures have been consistent pretty much.
I notice Ant+ refresh doesn't seem real time whereas the Polar is constantly changing figures.
I wonder if its a ant+issue or if anyone else has the same lags with ant+.
I had a zepyr hxm that behaved the same as the Polar so think the Garmin is a bit off...
The Polar has t13 support and behaves the same with gym equipment


donalson 03-25-14 02:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by z2z2 (Post 16610120)
More phones added support for ANT+, root is required though.
ANT+ Enabler for Nexus 5 & 10, HTC One and LG G2 phone
https://play.google.com/store/apps/d...ftware.antplus

awesome... that opens up a TON of phone options

Podagrower 03-26-14 08:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by z2z2 (Post 16610120)
More phones added support for ANT+, root is required though.
ANT+ Enabler for Nexus 5 & 10, HTC One and LG G2 phone
https://play.google.com/store/apps/d...ftware.antplus

Well, it looks like I've got my Saturday work lined up. I was already planning on rooting my Droid 4 (prepping for upcoming KitKat custom Roms), and Asus TF700 (KitKat also), and I don't have any hope of ANT+ with those 2 devices other than the USB OTG cable. But I do have a Nexus 5 which I love, and having it for my ANT+ device rather than my HTC Rhyme would be nice. Hopefully I'll be able to report success after Sunday's ride.

donalson 03-26-14 09:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Podagrower (Post 16612777)
Well, it looks like I've got my Saturday work lined up. I was already planning on rooting my Droid 4 (prepping for upcoming KitKat custom Roms), and Asus TF700 (KitKat also), and I don't have any hope of ANT+ with those 2 devices other than the USB OTG cable. But I do have a Nexus 5 which I love, and having it for my ANT+ device rather than my HTC Rhyme would be nice. Hopefully I'll be able to report success after Sunday's ride.

lol I bought an HTC rhyme from ebay just to use it with IPbike lol... nothing like rocking the "plum" phone :)... anyway let us know how it goes.

Podagrower 03-28-14 06:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by z2z2 (Post 16610120)
More phones added support for ANT+, root is required though.
ANT+ Enabler for Nexus 5 & 10, HTC One and LG G2 phone
https://play.google.com/store/apps/d...ftware.antplus

So far, so good. Nexus 5 rooted (it is a shame to wipe all the data to root, but somebody will figure a way around that I'm sure), installed the app tonight for a quick check, and IPSensor man had no issues finding my HRM and S/C sensor without the USB adapt-a-kit.

Quote:

Originally Posted by donalson (Post 16613038)
lol I bought an HTC rhyme from ebay just to use it with IPbike lol... nothing like rocking the "plum" phone :)... anyway let us know how it goes.

My wife makes fun of the plum phone, but it gets the job done. I'll be making a ride on Sunday, and report back on how it goes, but it looks good so far.

Podagrower 03-30-14 03:34 PM

30 miles of riding today, and this solution worked perfectly. As an added bonus, the Nexus devices are extremely easy to unlock, root, unroot and relock (if desired). I did forget to set my max heart rate in Ipbike, so seeing 182% of max heart rate was an issue when I glanced down-thats an id10t problem I believe.

ChiroVette 07-14-14 06:02 AM

I know this thread is semi-old, but I figured I would ask the question here, anyway. I have the Samsung Note 2 phone and use MapMyRide. I have wanted to add a heart rate monitor for a while now, but I cannot, for the life of me, find any sites via Google that say if the Note 2 has ANT+ or not. This thread mentioned once or twice that this would be coming (way back in 2013 it was said) but I can't seem to find out definitively if my phone would work with an ANT+ or I think Blutooth Smart is another one?

njkayaker 07-14-14 01:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiroVette (Post 16936221)
This thread mentioned once or twice that this would be coming (way back in 2013 it was said) but I can't seem to find out definitively if my phone would work with an ANT+ or I think Blutooth Smart is another one?

This doesn't list the Note 2 as supporting ANT+:

THIS IS ANT - Directory

This indicates that ANT+ will be enabled for the S4 and Note 3.

http://www.dcrainmaker.com/2013/10/s...e-devices.html

BTLE (Bluetooth Smart) should work. (Or an ANT+ dongle.)

ComPH 07-14-14 03:41 PM

I've been using the IpBike with the SGS3 as well, mounted using RokForm mount, which is pretty nice, quarter turn quick connect, with some helpful rear earth magnet alignment support. It can be mounted in both landscape or portrait mode. Used dongle with OTC alone as well as Y configuration with external battery. Recently I got the Viiiiva HRM, which is not only BLT and ANT+, but it also has bringing capability. After I set the bridge with my wife's iPhone, I can now use Garmin speed/cadence ANT+ sensor, have the HRM transpond the data into BLE, combine it with the HRM in BLE mode, and use the SGS3 without any dongle at all (with the IpBike app). I am very happy with the arrangement.

njkayaker 07-14-14 03:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ComPH (Post 16938064)
Recently I got the Viiiiva HRM, which is not only BLT and ANT+, but it also has bringing capability.

I forgot about that.

Products - Viiiiva | 4iiii

http://www.dcrainmaker.com/2013/07/v...th-bridge.html

$80. That's not much more than a BTLE only HR strap.


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 05:18 AM.