Recommendations for Front Flashing Light for Daylight Use
My wife asked for a front-facing flashing light for daylight use for her birthday.
I suggested that that wouldn't be so useful since we rarely ride in urban situations (98% open roads), but she still wants one. 1. How useful do you think these are? 2. Whats a recommendation for a simple, small light (as simple as the PB superflash turbo rear blinkie -- considering this)? |
For daytime use:
Get a light that has a >20 lumen blink mode. Wide beam pattern will be better. There's plenty of good compact options. I wouldn't bother with something like you linked. Those little lights are too dim to really be seen in daylight. |
I wouldn't have thought a front flasher was that useful in rural areas, but I had this happen to me twice in 2 weeks this year:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UOwv_IXZdIk I'm now running my front light in strobe mode. It's about 800 lumens and strobes about 8 times a second. It's highly irritating, but so is being hit head-on at 60 MPH. Nobody has pulled that on me since I started running that light - someone TRIED it just last night, but they pulled halfway out, saw me and dropped back in line. If I wanted a light JUST for front flashing, I'd probably go for a 200ish lumen flashlight with a good strobe mode. It would be ideal to get a Dinotte amber front light but they're kind of expensive compared to a $20 flashlight (and honestly probably not significantly move visible). It'd be nice if other companies made amber blinkies, but they are super rare. |
I was hoping for a few specific recommendations. I'd like to keep it under $50, with AA or AAA batteries, and all contained in one small unit.
This one gets mixed reviews: http://www.amazon.com/Intsun%C2%AEQ5...I13CU1OCFU6KDS Same here: http://www.amazon.com/Princeton-Tec-...FRGDUAZL&psc=1 My favorite so far: http://www.amazon.com/Planet-Bike-Bl...words=beamer+3 Note that this will never be used for night riding. |
Originally Posted by TromboneAl
(Post 16075292)
My wife asked for a front-facing flashing light for daylight use for her birthday.
I suggested that that wouldn't be so useful since we rarely ride in urban situations (98% open roads), but she still wants one. 1. How useful do you think these are? 2. Whats a recommendation for a simple, small light (as simple as the PB superflash turbo rear blinkie -- considering this)? 2. I have the Blaze 1-Watt, which is similar to the 2-Watt you linked to. It's small, light, runs on 2 AA batteries, and has a blinking pattern similar to the Superflash. Not sure how visible it is during the day, but I use one at night. The 2-Watt looks like a great deal right now. It's almost the same price as the 1-Watt. |
Originally Posted by DXchulo
(Post 16079027)
1. If your wife wants it, get it. That's marriage advice, not electronics advice.
2. I have the Blaze 1-Watt, which is similar to the 2-Watt you linked to. It's small, light, runs on 2 AA batteries, and has a blinking pattern similar to the Superflash. Not sure how visible it is during the day, but I use one at night. The 2-Watt looks like a great deal right now. It's almost the same price as the 1-Watt. 2. Thanks, that's good enough for me (plus my positive experience with Superflash rear blinkies). Pulled the trigger on the Planet Bike Blaze 2 Watt LED Headlight. |
Love you wife and yourself. 4 hours run time on high strobe. You will not be disappointed. Get two, one for your bike.
http://www.amazon.com/Lumen-Bicycle-...-2147483553-20 |
what ItsJustMe said
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I really like the knog blinder and its USB chargeable!
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I think life is way too short to be replacing AA or AA batteries all the time. USB rechargeable is the only way to go IMHO
Besides the the greater convenience of USB rechargeable, nothing running on AA or AAA batteries is going to be bright enough to be noticed in bright sunlight. Don in Austin |
Originally Posted by WestMass
(Post 16087362)
I really like the knog blinder and its USB chargeable!
For nighttime "see" not "be seen" use, I consider 200 lumens to not really be bright enough. I could ride with only 200 lumens, I have in the past, but when I have to do so I feel like I'm peeking through a keyhole, and often feel that I'm outrunning my lights. |
Anyone try the lezyne Zacto drive pro as a daytime headlight?
http://road.cc/content/news/89208-ju...-drive-pro-led |
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buy one from a local retailer so you can try it out. otherwise be prepared to buy one test it then buy more, or if you prefer a different one then keep the first as a back up. I only carry spare on long rides when my trip home might be a long time away from my trip out. 1 PBSF on back rack and left drop bar, w one magic shine up front. I started with the PB 1 watt headlight - which is ok for a be seen strobe in shade and elsewhere too, but magicshine is much brighter. it's inadequate as a headlight to see at night. I think even the 2 watt would barely be good enough considering the much better option such as magic shine and it's cheap copy. I have the cheap copy too but haven't used it yet cuz I just pleasure bike now and my new magicshine battery needs use.
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Originally Posted by Don in Austin
(Post 16088086)
I think life is way too short to be replacing AA or AA batteries all the time. USB rechargeable is the only way to go IMHO.
With the Superflashes, I turn them on before a ride, and if they aren't at full brightness, I just swap out the batteries from the Eneloop charger in the garage. The batteries last for many rides. |
Originally Posted by 10 Wheels
(Post 16080646)
Love you wife and yourself. 4 hours run time on high strobe. You will not be disappointed. Get two, one for your bike.
http://www.amazon.com/Lumen-Bicycle-...-2147483553-20 |
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I usually use my 400 lumen Cygolite in flashing mode, but it is an $80 light that I bought mainly for night riding. I also have a couple of these:
http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=341937 http://dx.com/p/3-mode-5-led-white-r...3-x-aaa-114064 It is a very bright be-seen light. When I stand a few yards back and look at it, it is highly visible. Under $5 shipped from china. I'm sure you can get them from a US source faster and for just a little more. I keep one on my beater bike for running daytime errands. I don't know how reliable it ultimately will turn out to be, but sofar, it works just fine and I've had them over a year. |
Originally Posted by TromboneAl
(Post 16080629)
1. Agree.
2. Thanks, that's good enough for me (plus my positive experience with Superflash rear blinkies). Pulled the trigger on the Planet Bike Blaze 2 Watt LED Headlight. If you look at the video ( post #3 ) if that rider had one of the 2watt Blazes going ( or my Axiom ) and was commanding a bit more of the road, my bet is that the on-coming driver would have backed off and pulled back into his lane. ( notice that the road is shadowed ) It completely made me laugh when the rider hit's his horn AFTER the car goes by. :roflmao2: |
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Originally Posted by Yo Spiff
(Post 16089317)
I usually use my 400 lumen Cygolite in flashing mode, but it is an $80 light that I bought mainly for night riding. I also have a couple of these:
http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=341937 http://dx.com/p/3-mode-5-led-white-r...3-x-aaa-114064 It is a very bright be-seen light. When I stand a few yards back and look at it, it is highly visible. Under $5 shipped from china. I'm sure you can get them from a US source faster and for just a little more. I keep one on my beater bike for running daytime errands. I don't know how reliable it ultimately will turn out to be, but sofar, it works just fine and I've had them over a year. Those are actually pretty bright especially when you have five going. I used to have a couple of the cheaper D/X Chinese Frog type lights that used only two mini leds. Not really a lot of output there but this year I bought another and noticed that the optic was much clearer and the output much brighter. The Axiom I own is probably using the 5mm Nichia's which should be brighter than the Chinese versions. Still, I like the idea of a 5-up (5mm) that uses AAA's. Can't beat the price. :thumb: I'll be putting a couple of those on my "need to order list" the next time I order from D/X. |
Originally Posted by Yo Spiff
(Post 16089317)
I usually use my 400 lumen Cygolite in flashing mode, but it is an $80 light that I bought mainly for night riding. I also have a couple of these:
http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=341937 http://dx.com/p/3-mode-5-led-white-r...3-x-aaa-114064 It is a very bright be-seen light. When I stand a few yards back and look at it, it is highly visible. Under $5 shipped from china. I'm sure you can get them from a US source faster and for just a little more. I keep one on my beater bike for running daytime errands. I don't know how reliable it ultimately will turn out to be, but sofar, it works just fine and I've had them over a year. These can be expensive. However, look up Meritline and search for bicycle lights. They did have a light with holder at one time that attaches to the handle bars. Mine has a Cree LED light and it is super bright. I bought from them also a rear flasher that uses 5 high brightness red LEDS and you can see this day or night. I decided to look up the lumen output of the light I bought and it's a CREE T6 LED producing 1200 Lumen (as advertised by them) I can't prove the output is as advertised but it is too bright to comfortably look into. The light was approximately $10.00. It has three modes of on. Steady, Flash and Rapid Flash. You can't go wrong with this in daylight. It gets hot after about 10 minutes, but it uses a rechargable 18650 battery that lasts a few hours (high capacity model) and longer in flash mode. You should check out the CREE based lights. |
[QUOTE=TromboneAl;16078628]I was hoping for a few specific recommendations. I'd like to keep it under $50, with AA or AAA batteries, and all contained in one small unit.
I'd guess that you won't be able to get sufficient light for daytime visibility at $50.00. Can you upgrade to a unit that gives you plenty of light with power settings that you can use day or night? With most tools, especially with bike lights, I don't regret getting more than I think I need - I'm always glad I go more. Yes, I gotta pay for it, just sayin'. Also, is the protocol for bike lights to have a SOLID white light on the front and the rear to be flashing (red), not the front flashing? |
I've used bright flashing lights for a few years now, and found that a light that's bright enough to use at night around streetlights works well in the day. The ones I use ( a magicshine, a viz 360 and a Ultrafire 501b) don't get used at the same time nor do they fit your requirements, but they work fine for me and give me peace of mind from the redundancy.
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Originally Posted by TromboneAl
(Post 16075292)
1. How useful do you think these are?
*Madsen, J. C., Andersen, T., & Lahrmann, H. S. (January 01, 2013). Safety effects of permanent running lights for bicycles: A controlled experiment. Accident; Analysis and Prevention, 50, 820-9. |
Originally Posted by TromboneAl
(Post 16080629)
1. Agree.
2. Thanks, that's good enough for me (plus my positive experience with Superflash rear blinkies). Pulled the trigger on the Planet Bike Blaze 2 Watt LED Headlight. Since the amount of light the Blaze 2 watt puts out is marginal on bright days, you'll want to be able to aim it at any motorists you want to alert. In my opinion, under lower light conditions (dawn/dusk and gloomy days) the superflash mode on this light IS bright enough to be useful - especially with a helmet mount. Obviously, brighter is better. I use a 500 lumen flashing light during the day. Further thought: when you receive it, why don't you throw it on a bike and one of you can look while the other one rides? You can see for yourself if it is bright enough to help with visibility in the daylight. If not, send them back and get something better. |
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Originally Posted by TromboneAl
(Post 16078628)
Also, is the protocol for bike lights to have a SOLID white light on the front and the rear to be flashing (red), not the front flashing?
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